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Very weirdly good match: Cena vs Rene Dupree from Judgement Day 2004. It's only about 10 minutes, it is for the US Championship, and it's John Cena vs Rene Dupree, but it's very clear someone in the back worked very hard to lay out a match to make still green Cena look like he could produce a late 70s/early 80s Mid Atlantic style match. Especially notable as I don't think Rene has anything worth watch in WWE besides this, and both guys were still very green, and this type of match just wasn't happening in WWE anymore/at all. It's really one of the very few really solid matches from the Thuganomics period.

What if Jericho is the problem all together, not production, not giant lolsy crash pads. Just Jericho seemingly having completely forgotten how to be a pro wrestler.

The finish was fine and really probably the best thing they could have done, particularly for the MJF character. The execution was laughable dogshit not unlike the barbed wire match dud. They have to stop with these big stunt bumps, they've looked minor league every single time.

There's no way to hide Jericho dropping selling completely and literally pointing people to spots they need to be in for the next spot or holding is hand up with the blade in it for 2 minutes while in a submission other than to just not have the cameras on him.

Hopefully Jericho is written off for 6 months (preferably forever) and Swagger can retire or something and Sammy/LAX can go their own way and actually not have to be bogged down by Jericho shit.

Man that looked terrible. Lmao. Jericho was so bad. Does he not realize he's on TV and everyone can see him blatantly calling his spots and blatantly getting his blade and blatantly holding it for MINUTES waiting to use it for a spot, blatantly getting into position and telling people to get into position?

Throwing Jericho off the cage would be a face turn for me

Jericho fucking sucks in this. Dude literally blatantly holding the blade in his hand the whole time up there. Looking gassed to hell before he even did any spots.

Lmao this is the 4th break for this match and they actually cut away from the last PIP to do different commercial break.

I can't believe TK didn't get a deal worked out to present this commercial free.

Shame he looks like a teenager in that get up

Lol at how often they have said Dusty created this match and literally are referring to specific War Games matches as Blood & Guts matches while Jericho was swearing up and down it wasn't War Games and they weren't just calling it something different due to trademarks.

Imagine a War Games with the old blue bar WWF cage

All the heels in white, match is gonna be bloodbath

I want to see Mark become mini Brian Cage

I would like to see Marko Stunt get on a heavy deca cycle and become a muscle freak power wrestler

That dude's lines would be corny and lame in 2003 when John Cena was saying them. I swear he's used the cuck line multiple times on TV.

Yeah they really should have thrown him off the balcony, imo

That was about as safe as you can take a bump down the stairs. Half of it was sliding on his feet and he's definitely padded up.

Cody's tights are getting close to late stage HBK high rise.

Yes, and I'm sure he's going to triple down on it since people didn't like what he did and then complain about fans not getting it or some shit.

I find Bob Backlund to be fascinating more than entertaining. He's just so weird and idiosyncratic in the ring that even if the match is boring, I can't help but be drawn just to watch him sell weird and make weird noises. It's not that he doesn't have good matches, but that's definitely not what draws me to him. Really enjoy some of his NJ work with Inoki/Hansen/Hogan. The UWF matches are interesting. I think the match with Harley in MSG gets a lot of shit in these kind of circles but I think it is a very entertaining match and Harley's beer gut is in peak form.

Russ Davis is the Christian Cage of 1950s announcers. Discuss.

Only truly psycho fans would hold it against him for signing with WWE without going on a world tour of 6 star matches.

It's probably the paunch + KO always lands flat on his back bumps just like Harley. Also tough guy tats.