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The only thing Rey needs for him to be a credible World Champion is a submission finisher that can be applied to anyone. I brought this up in a previous thread where you do some vignettes with Rey training with some MMA guy learning submissions. Then you have him start killing guys once he locks it in. The ideal one would be the 6 seconds of magic from the No Mercy videogame. you have Rey hook his body around the neck and arm and then see guys go down to their knewws in pain and tap out. Pu it over like they put over Angle's anklelock and it could easily be something the fans buy into that would topple anyone. I have the visual in my head of Big Show trying to swing Rey around as Rey has his arm locked, then falling to his knees and eventually landing face first to the mat as he taps out.

OK, I just picked up the Cibernetico match today from EJ. I plan to make it my wresting match of the night inbetween making the Bret Hart comp.

Hey Tim, were you going to continue with this?

When asked about Montreal, Earl says he did not know the finish until about ten minutes before the match. Dave says that he had the car waiting to take Earl out of the building. Earl then chimes in that he told Dave right before he went on. I findthis to be total bullshit. Dave had the car running and ready to go but only knew ten minutes before the match? Please. On Montreal, Earl says, "But you know, as I look at it now and probably a week later after it happened, out of al lthe people working there, Bret was screwing each and every one of them... including myself. It was not so much Vince McMahon. It was the talent. All the guys that put him over and made him what he is, or was. He's cheating them and he helped him and that's how I felt about it as time went on. I mean, I had a choice to or not to, and the bell was going to ring regardless, but as I stepped in the ring, and I am passing everybody going to the ring, I am stopping and thinking there are guys back there, there's Undertaker, all our top stars that even put him over. Here's a guy that doesn't care about just say it's 80 guys or 180, he didn't care. I mean he already had his deal down at WCW. So he was signed, sealed, all he had to be was delivered. So what did he have to lose? Nothing. Basically, what was he going to do, like Alundra Blayze take the damn blet down there and throw it in the trash can, hold it up like "hahaha" for the embarassment of all our guys, including myself? So during the match, I did a lot of thinking, and that was the biggest thought on my mind, and the more I thought about this, that and the other, and I think about all the guys in the back I go well, maybe this is the right thing for me to do... Q: So it is actually in the match itself that you made the decision? A: I didnt know for sure what I was going to do, and nobody else knew for sure except me. I didn't even know except doing the match, I had no idea what I was going to do. I know what they wanted me to do. But I don't even think they were sure because the way I left them, I wasn't sure. Q: Bret, in subsequent interviews said he personally chose you to be the referee in that match because he trusted you like no other referee. Was there any point when Briscoe gave you the finish to when you went out there, or while you were out there, that you thought maybe you should let Bret know or was it something you just kept inside? A: Well, I didn't have time to let Bret know. If I would have time, I am not sure I would have. At that point, I can't answer But I knew as I was going to the ring and thinking, "Oh my God, what am I going to do?" and I am thinking about myself, and I am thinking about Bret, I am thinking about all the other people in the back but all the other people in back didn't really rush to my mind until I got to the ring. And then I am thinking... I think uh.. I can't put my finger on it now, i think someone else had a hard time dropping the strap. Maybe if you guys know, maybe I can bring it back up. For somebody just to be selfish, and not do what they're supposed to do, to make other people suffer, especially when you got like roughly somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million dollars waiting for you. What are you worried about? What difference does it make? When you could have dropped it way before youu got to your own country, and you had ample time to do it in a nice way and you didn't want to do it, and you kept bucking it, and bucking it, and bucking it. What difference does it make? Hell, 3 million dollars... I'll give every wrestling shirt away, anything you want. So why you gonna let all your other fellows suffer when they helped you get where you are?

Bryan Alvarez comments...

The new Eddie tribute shirt...

To be fair, Meltz said it was probably a good thing with Pena since he was so corrupt.

You know I watched both shows.. Owen and this one and they felt like night and day to me. The setup was the same. Wrestlers only wrestled if they felt like it. Wrestlers gave testimonials. While I thought some of the interviews and actions during the Owen show were respectful, I also thought WWF was in full spin mode after the backlash they received when continuing the PPV. for this show, I felt none of that. I didn't see any one wrestler, not even Shawn Michaels, who I thought was being insincere... the way I felt when Austin raised a beer to Owen.

I was watching Wrestlewar 91 today and Dusty and Ross were watching Hansen-Vader. After a big hit, Dusty said, " They knocked my Courvosier over... I mean my water." I always knew the guy had to have been 3 sheets to the wind when up in the announcing booth.

This is kind of a bullshit line of thought because Bret was only responding to the questions and topics that Dave and Brian were throwing out there. I mean, it was Dave who decided he should take the time to read an entire chapter out of Shawn's book. The entire reason Bret was on there was to promote the DVD. If Dave felt that Eddie's death was more important (and it is) then he should have cancelled Bretand had 2 hours of Eddie memories.

Ripped from IP...

A few moments I agree with you like when he said he never had a bad match. However, most fo the time, I agreed with him. Plus, Hart has always been consistent and honest in his interviews. It's refreshing to hear someone stay consistent. On the other hand, yes, I wish there was more discussion on Eddie.

Here is another transcript stolen from DVDVR...

Right! Meltz mentioned that they would be fools to make him a heel right away because he would be getting such a huge face reaction.

Hey man, thanks for doing this. I thought it was classic when a 5 year old kid marks out for bret because he was in the video games!

MEltz said in the WO this week that the idea is to bring back mid-level guys from his past and wrestle each one for the next couple of months.

Right now, Billy Graham is on talking about him... http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/ Click on "Listen Live"

Help me make the Ultimate Eddie Guerrero compilation... http://s3.invisionfree.com/New_Millennium_...?showtopic=1461

Excellent Idea. Topic Pinned!

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