MikeCampbell

Jim hasn't done anything with them since the '97 Timeline, and I know it's *not* because KC isn't interested in doing anything with him.

Tennessee Lee is doing Shawn Michaels joining the nWo. I don't know if it's a redux of when he joined in the WWE in '02, or if he jumped to WCW and joined during the heyday.

What happened? "Cornette has had a falling out with __________" is something you can pretty much set your watch to. I don't remember the exact details now, because it's been so long. But, the gist of it is that KC shot a few vignettes with Russo to hype the YouShoot Live iPPV, and one of them featured Russo hinting that people might hear from Cornette during the event. Corny flipped out and wrote a blog to say that he wouldn't be there, and blasted KC for making people think he would be there, and for working with Russo in general. Sean Oliver issued his own statement making it clear that KC NEVER tried to advertise him, and knew he'd never step foot in the building because of how much he hates Russo. He also called him out for challenging Russo to a fight at the Ring Roast Event for Jim (where Sean had no intention of booking Russo to appear).

I'm hoping KC and Corny patch things up soon. WCW Timeline 1989 and/or 1990 *NEEDS* to be with Cornette, just for all the potential Herd stories. Plus, he's talked considerably about booking SMW in the backseat of cars while on the road with WCW, so I'd love to see a potential interview with that topic, sort of like Gabe taking us through his ROH booking plans before he got fired.

Did anyone else find all the head shots to Ziggler to be unnerving? Between that match and the way he bumps in general, I really felt like he was taking a few years off his career.

The other thing that I think people need to keep in mind, regarding the list of guys doing well that Bix posted, is that they didn't just magically walk into their present states. CM Punk was crazy over before he even debuted in ECW, but had people backstage against him, and languished for over a year before they pulled the trigger on him with the ECW Title. He got the nod for the World Title in 2008, but was still treated like a second tier guy. It wasn't until the Straight Edge Society was getting white-hot heat that the powers that be started coming around to him. Then they still dicked around with him before finally putting the title on him at Survivor Series. Daniel Bryan got the NXT losing streak, and then got released for going too far with the original Nexus angle. His comeback was a huge deal, and then the feud with Miz was great. But he eventually cooled down and started getting de-pushed, even after winning MITB. He eventually cashed in for the title, and got over huge with the 'Yes Yes Yes' deal, and followed up with the comedy with Kane. The Shield are pretty much the closest example to basically walking in to their current push. But, remember, they've only recently started wrestling on TV on a regular basis. Their first match was at TLC, and their second was the the Elimination Chamber. Claudio Castagnoli started with Aksana and that goofy rugby player gimmick. He got the U.S. Title on a PPV preshow, at one of it's lower points, and made it more interesting than it had been in ages. I'd call that match with Sin Cara many things, but it wasn't boring. So hopefully, he's out of the doghouse.

Bret Hart, or Brett Hart (Barry Horowitz)?

He seemed to be getting his mojo back last year after he started teaming with Magnus, and had that match with A-Double on PPV.

Backlund was pretty much the end of the WWF's 20 year tradition at that point, a longtime babyface champion to appeal to an ethnic demographic. Just like Bruno and Pedro before him (Superstar was the first heel to get an extended run with the strap). To determine who, if not Bob, you really have to first determine what the criteria was for choosing Bob. Was VJM looking for that Jack Brisco type of champion, or just to appeal to another ethnic group (IE the white boys). Assuming it's the former, then he's definitely not going to find them in his territory. So he's got to find someone who fits the bill, is willing to make the move, and prove they can get over with the Northeast fans before the title change. Because, let's face it, I don't think he's going to magically select, say, Dory Funk, jr, and tell him "You start on this date, and you're going to beat Superstar in Feb." and then find out the hard way that the fans in MSG, The Spectrum, the Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, etc. don't give a flying shit about him. It seems more likely that it's the latter, and VJM never had a big shortage of ethnic names on his roster to choose from. Putski, Strongbow, Garea, Arion, Bellomo, etc. He could have slotted any of them in Bob's place. Do I think they'd have gotten over better than Bob (wait a sec, Bob wasn't over, just ask Larry!)? Probably not. Do I think that PWO would be discussing great MSG Title matches like Ken Patera vs. Ivan Putski? Probably not. But, I don't exactly seen a ton of pimping for Pedro Morales matches either.

If Magnum had avoided the car wreck, and stayed healthy throughout the year, the first Clash seems like a likely time to make the big title change. Magnum beats Nikita at Starrcade '86 for the US Title and defends it for the first half of '87, dropping it to Lex in the cage instead of Nikita. Magnum takes Nikita's place in the War Games matches. Magnum has to go through the Horsemen to get to Flair, which he does at Starrcade, only for Flair to retain with some kind of screw job. It culminates with Flair vs. Magnum, live on TBS, with Dillon in the cage, opposite WrestleMania.

I caught Mick's stand up act tonight, and it was a fairly entertaining 90 or so minutes. He doesn't really shed any new light on anything that most people on this forum wouldn't already know. He rehashes some of the more famous stories from his book (namely the DDP cookies in the bed story). But it's Mick, so it's still fun to hear again. The really good line was talking about the Hulk Hogan sex tape, and describing it as Hogan getting winded but doing the famous Hogan comeback and then getting the crowd to start singing along to 'Real American.' Afterwards, he did a meet and greet and took fan questions. The All Japan uber mark in me asked about working Jumbo in the '91 Carnival. He was actually very complimentary towards Jumbo, saying that he was great to work with, despite Mick suffering the rib injury. He also said that he finds that Jumbo is terribly under appreciated, and that Dave is crazy for saying that he was lazy.

I like Nintendo Logic's list, save one. I'd drop the 3/1/03 NOAH match for the 1/20/97 Triple Crown match. I'd also toss on either Midnights/Fantastics from the first Clash or Midnights/Southern Boys from the 1990 GAB.

I was watching the Kayfabe Commentaries 1994 Timeline with Waltman, and they bring up the headdress angle actually. All that comes out of it is Sean and Sean chuckling about the 'Lumbee' Indian tribe and then moving on. The Knuckeball Schwartz talk is a riot though. Vince: I think he's a backstop. Lawler: Is he a pitcher or catcher?

The match I've wanted to see forever, that I asked to include on the old PWO DVD club set at some point. The Ding Dong's debut with Cornette on commentary!

Somebody else was right too, JVK.

Something to add to the Hogan thread!

Starrcade was a Crockett show through and through. Seven of the eight matches featured JCP mainstays. The only one that strikes me as being an exception was Abdullah vs. Carlos, and Abby was like Brody in that he never stayed in one place for too long, so he may very well have been in the midst of a run with Crockett. Therefore, by definition, no, it wouldn't have worked if it was held in Atlanta. I don't know if it HAD to be in Greensboro (I'd assume that was the largest building they ran) but it had to be in the heart of the territory.

Wahoo also took part in the Tatanka headdress angle with IRS in '94 or so.

I'll bite the bullet and go there: If not Benoit, then who?

Now that I've got a little more time on my hands, I'll expand upon my idea on page 2. I think Lawler would have been a great choice. He could win it on a Monday night at the Mid South Coliseum to a huge ovation, they could even run some kind of stipulation like if Lawler loses he doesn't get another shot for X amount of days, or Flair's title versus Lawler's career. Lawler tours as NWA Champion for five months, his interviews alone would make people despise him. Plus, he was still a big name from the Andy Kaufman incident on Letterman. Plus, he goes back to Memphis once a month or so and cuts an "It's good to be home" promo, and defends the title against dastardly heels like Austin Idol. Lawler's piledriver can even be used to run the same broken neck angle that JCP ran with Flair, Orton, and Slater.

What about Lawler?

Loss is the next Ted DiBiase, he'll proove that EVERYBODY'S got a price!

UT submitted Ambrose a few weeks back, and Cena pinned Rollins as part of the six man elimination match. Reigns hasn't dropped any falls other than by DQ. I was thinking that they'd let Hell No retain at the PPV with Bryan submitting Reigns just to get it out of the way, so they'd each have dropped a fall.

The Tom Prichard/Dirth White Boy feud in '88 had some awesome stuff, probably the most well known is the Dirty White Girl black eye angle.

He's probably best known in the US for the corckscrew plancha that he busted out in every WCW mutliman match, or the fluke win over Scott Hall, that Hall got right back the next week. The first time I saw his work in CMLL, I was floored by how great a rudo he was.