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I love me some Low Ki vs. Homicide, You can keep your Bryan Danielsons, I'll take Low Ki and Homicide stiffing the crap out of each other thanks. This was going along swimmingly until it turned into an angle where Gary Hart, of all people, ordered Homicide and Low Ki to attack the MLW owner, Court Bauer. I can't stand screeching indy commentators, but I dug Julius Smokes bringing up the Great Kabuki nearly blinding the Junkyard Dog with green mist, and the other dude squealing about Gary Hart trying to kill Ric Flair with a plastic bag.
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[2004-01-18-AJPW] Toshiaki Kawada vs. Genichiro Tenryu
ohtani's jacket replied to Jetlag's topic in January 2004
I liked this better than any other Kawada match from the 2000s aside from the original Tenryu match from 2000 and the Muto matches. Not because it was a great Kawada performance (personally I don't think he was a great worker in the 2000s), but because Tenryu is a natural opponent for him. I'd gladly watch this matchup any day of the week. It suffers a bit in comparison to the tear Kobashi was on (I can't seem to separate the two in my mind), but as a New Year's match it's more than decent.- 1 reply
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This was pretty dumb, but it did feature a shit ton of blood.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
ohtani's jacket replied to TravJ1979's topic in Pro Wrestling
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ohtani's jacket replied to TravJ1979's topic in Pro Wrestling
I stumbled upon this blog site looking for information about the backstage fight between Kandori and Hokuto at Big Egg Universe. The blogger often includes excerpts from interviews and books when doing his match reviews -- http://konjyaku.blog.jp/ -
A slightly different translation: Before the match, a happening occurred in the waiting room. This time, the waiting rooms for each team were concentrated on one floor on the outside side of the field. In the center of the room, there was a TV monitor, and the players of each organization were watching the matches without any sides. Hokuto walked through there with several pamphlets under his arm, and happened to run into Katori. Jintori said, "Hey, it's been a long time..." and then he punched Hokuto in the body. The punch hit a pamphlet, and Jantori slapped him further. Hotta was the one who controlled the irascible Kantori, and Hokuto was stunned by the suddenness of the incident. This was the "waiting room incident" that was reported in some quarters. (*Omitted). With such happenings, Hokuto vs. Eagle was in a strange mood. Kandori and Kazama were second fighters. They were saying, "Get him, get him, get him! Hold him down! were shouted. Eagle's expression was strange. He is clearly determined to crush Hokuto. The angle of the powerbomb is also very bad! Hokuto said, "I could tell he was trying to crush me," and he gets the pinfall victory with two Northern Lights in a row. The "waiting room incident" and "I knew he was going to crush me" were all things Hokuto told me after the match."
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I wasn't trying hard enough. Here's a direct translation: Actually, just before this match, behind the back screen where the audience can't see, Hokuto and Kandori (LLPW) collide It was later revealed that there had been a fistfight (or rather, Kandori's one-sided assault?) . According to Rossi Ogawa, “Before the game, something happened in the waiting room. This time, the waiting rooms of each group were concentrated on one floor on the outfield side. As Hokuto carries several pamphlets under his arm , he runs into Kandori, who says, "Hey, it's been a long time..." and throws a gun at Hokuto, punching him in the body. It was Hotta who stopped the furious Kandori, and Hokuto was stunned by the sudden event.This was the "waiting room incident" reported by some . (*omitted) Hokuto vs. Eagle was in a strange mood, with Kandori and Kazama in second. Hokuto said, ``I know he was trying to crush Hokuto,'' but he took the pinfall win with two Northern Lights in a row. The 'waiting room incident' and 'it's about to be crushed' are all things I heard from Hokuto after the match." After all, all women are the best! Written by Rossi Ogawa Published September 30, 1995 First edition First printing Baseball magazine company P47-48 After All, Zenjo is Ichiban! By Rossy Ogawa, September 30, 1995, 1st edition, 1st printing, Baseball Magazine, P47-48 I guess the heat between Kandori and Yamada was legit.
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Didn't Dave attend Big Egg Universe? I wonder if he saw something backstage or if he just heard about it from Fumi Saito or someone else. It doesn't appear to be a very well known story as I can't find anything about it in Japanese.
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Ted vs. Jake Roberts is freaking awesome. 1985 was Ted's sweet spot. I'm convinced if they'd worked the same match, move for move, in 1988 WWF it wouldn't have been as good because of the molten Mid-South crowd. #Youwillbebought
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This was shorter than I would have liked, but it wasn't helped by the director going nuts with the crowd shots and the extra handheld camera option. There were some poor edits in this match that took away from the drama of the bout. The in-ring work was the focused action you expect from a Shocker match. I loved the finishes to the first two falls. Tarzan Boy crucifixing the arm during the pinfall, and Shocker flinging Tarzan Boy to the mat after the Gori Special were great slow-motion replay moves. The tercera was almost perfect. If they'd just continued for a few more beats and given Tarzan Boy a couple of nearfalls, I would have been a lot higher on the match. Tarzan Boy cutting off Shocker's plancha with a forearm was brilliant. It's too bad they didn't let him control the finishing stretch afterward. It was still a satisfying bout, and Tarzan Boy looked unreal with a clean shaven head, but I have to be honest: I enjoyed the spectacle of Shocker vs. Vampiro more.
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This was disappointing, which I suppose is why I've never heard anyone talk about it before. Usually in these Casas vs. GdI matches, you can rely on Casas to have some awesome exchanges with the Guerreros, but aside from a few slaps, he was mediocre, just as he has been all year. Perro Jr brought a fair amount of energy, but he was a rookie as far as big time Arena Mexico matches go. The match was poorly structured, and I thought the workers were hurt by having the match thrown together at the last moment. Casas and Perro had zero chemistry together, and while the standoff between Ultimo and Perro was something new, they clearly didn't have a ton of experience working together. Worst of all was the finish. The match finished with some rudo BS. It didn't ruin a classic, but do the constant schmoz finishes make the GdI a better rudo team? They succeeded in pissing me off, but I don't know if it was a positive thing.
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Time for the biggie. This is the consensus MOTY for 2003. Either this or Benoit vs. Angle from the Rumble. I've seen it once before, and from memory, they defied my skepticism towards NOAH and these guys having anywhere near as good a match as they did in the 90s. Watching it again, it's not a match I have a strong attachment to. It's an important moment, a passing of the torch, the culmination of all of Kobashi's struggles, and a fitting end to their rivalry, but it's not a match that gives me goosebumps or makes me emotional. I was happy for the fans who seemed hugely invested, and felt sorry for that girl sitting on her mother's lap who had to cover her ears because it was too noisy. I liked the work in Kobashi/Honda more. However, if you're a Kobashi fan, or a Misawa fan, and you care about the story being told here then I totally understand why this match is a big deal. I have my own All Japan memories that I rate higher than this, but kudos to NOAH to finishing the story and giving us an ending.
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This was another solid bout from this crew. I can't keep track of what the Sol Cal guys were calling themselves in Mexico, so I just used their regular names. Collectively, CMLL referred to them as the Havana Brothers. You can read about the confusion over the names here -- http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Havana_Pitbulls -- which also explains why the announcers were constantly referring to "Ricky Romero." I guess, they were technically Rocky Romero, Rocko and Puma, but the announcers didn't appear to have a clue and didn't seem to mention either Quance or Perkins by name. But enough about all that. These guys were a breath of fresh air in CMLL at the time, and Virus vs Bobby Quance was a thing of beauty. When I first saw Quance's APW stuff, I had no idea he'd turn into a credible opponent for one of my all-time favorite wrestlers. I don't think Quance wrestles anymore, but there's a feather in your cap. You can also see Volador growing through this experience as well. It shouldn't come as a surprise that he slowly made his way up the tecnico ranks throughout the rest of the decade.
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This looked tasty on paper, but it was more of a hate-filled sprint than a shoot style match. Yamada took a backseat to Hotta, which kind of bugged me, but we did get to see moments of Yamada vs. Kandori, and the Hotta/Kandori matchup itself wasn't too bad. Poor Harley was there to play whipping boy. If the hierarchy established Yamada as being below Hotta and Kandori, then Harley was even lower on the totem pole. Personally, I think they should have been pushing Harley as LLPW's #2, or close to it, or at least giving her the credibility that Mayumi Ozaki was afforded. If they wanted a whipping boy, LLPW had plenty of other talent to choose from. It would have made more sense to split Hotta and Yamada as well, rather than make Toshiyo look like a second stringer. Choose one or the other and pair them with a weaker girl. Then you've got an even dynamic. The way around all this was to work an epic match where everyone looks good, but they never got close. It's strange that Harley was given such a solid run in the '93 Japan Grand Prix but is the weak link here. I've pretty much talked myself into preferring the Big Egg match over this.
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Hashi and Kanemaru were by far my favorite opponents for KENTA and Marufuji. Something about their workmanlike style contrasts nicely with the show pony stylings of KENTA and Marufuji. This wasn't as good as their match later in the year, mostly because it was shorter, but the action was solid, especially the sequences involving KENTA.
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I quite liked the early issues of Jemm, Son of Saturn, where Jemm first arrives on Earth, and Colan is being inked by Klaus Janson, but the story lost its way when it became a space epic, and I didn't think there was enough story to justify a 12 issue maxi-series. I mostly read it because I'm interested in Colan's 80s output. There seemed to be a huge difference between street level Colan and outer space Colan. I can't really claim that the Jemm character is all that interesting, either. He seems kind of redundant in a world where there's already a Martian Manhunter.
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I did not know that. Does Dave explain why Kandori was upset?
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The Villano match was pretty good, though I hated the count out finish. I can kind of understand NJPW not really appreciating what they had in Villano, as they probably thought they could throw anybody at Tiger Mask. It would have been nice if they'd developed more of a rivalry, but it wasn't to be. Sayama worked an interesting hybrid style. I kind of like how he could draw on both the Mexican and British style and also do a bit of quasi-shoot style.
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Ted took Brad Armstrong to the pay window. #Everybodysgotaprice
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WWE TV 12/26 - 1/1 Jesus > Hitler > The Undertaker
ohtani's jacket replied to NintendoLogic's topic in WWE
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Ted puts Bob Sweetan to bed in the taped fist bout. Great match. #Tedin26.
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I have a lot of negative things to say about this show and basically think it was a giant mistake by AJW. It's stupid that Kandori wasn't in the V*TOP tournament, which I can only assume was because she didn't want to job, but at least it gave us this brief moment in time where Kandori and Yamada squared off in the ring. In an alternate reality, I'm sure they met two or three times in singles because their exchanges in this match are so freaking good. i used to think Kandori vs. Chigusa in '89 was the great missed opportunity in Joshi puroresu, but now I'm starting to think it was a Kandori vs. Yamada singles match. The armbars, Kandori giving Yamada the finger, the scuffle at the end... why didn't AJW capitalize on this?
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This was okay. I was happy to see Murahama again, but less than thrilled that he was a whipping boy for KENTA and Marufuji. It's been a long time since I've enjoyed a Liger match, and it was a bit hard to get invested in a tag team partnership with Murahama that didn't really mean a hell of a lot, but I did enjoy some of the individual exchanges between KENTA and Liger and Murahama. Marufuji was more of a goofy bugger in this than the other tag matches I've watched, and overall I felt this lacked the rhythm of the other two KENTA/Marufuji matches I watched.
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Andre Bollet/Roger Delaporte vs. Mr. Montreal/Warnia de Zarzecki (aired 1/25/69) This was broadcast in colour, and man, I forgot how bright the ring is. I wonder if they used a similar canvas for all of the promotions or it it was unique to Delaporte. I'm not gonna lie and pretend I was looking forward to this, but it wasn't too bad. It was kind of like watching an Arn Anderson and Ric Flair tag match from the mid-90s while knowing what an Arn Anderson and Ric Flair tag match from the 80s looked like. Abdel Kader Bousaada vs. Jean Luc (aired 2/1/69) I'm not sure about Abdel Kader's ring name here. There was a Moroccan worker based out of France who was billed as Abdel Kader Kabache, who I'm assuming was the same person. He may or may not have been the same guy who worked as Abdul Kader Hassouini in England, who, IIRC, features later on in the footage. In any event, this was a solid undercard bout. Mostly manchettes and both guys jostling for the win. Robert Gastel/Fred Magnier vs. Don Barreto/Eddie Williams (aired 3/8/69) Fred Magnier was perfectly cast as Gastel's tag partner. They looked as though they could have been related, or at the very least, business partners outside the ring. Gastel reminded me of a French Dick Murdoch in this bout. It was standard heel schtick, but more entertaining than Duranton vs. Williams. Don Barreto was Luc Barreto, a Cuban born wrestler based out of Spain. He suffered a career-ending injury in Germany not long after this match and began a successful singing career, releasing thirty records. I actually listened to a few of them while watching the bout. Not bad. I don't know if Eddie Williams took James Brown's spot after Brown died, but it sure feels that way. Props to the French promoters for largely pushing the black wrestlers as athletes and not billing them from deepest darkest Africa or the Caribbean, like they did in the UK.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
ohtani's jacket replied to TravJ1979's topic in Pro Wrestling
Imagine if he'd booked the Deadman.