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How's this for a trios? The match is built around Panther vs. Atlantis, which is one of my all-time favorite lucha pairings. They run through some nice looking stuff in the primera caida before the match turns into a mask ripping brawl. Normally that would piss me off, but they worked a tight bout that kind of had me wishing that Atlantis had been the one to take Panther's mask. We also got to see Satanico brawl with the others. It's not every day you see Satanico trading right hands with Casas, so this is pretty much a must-see for anyone who likes these workers.
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Volk Han didn't thumb his nose at pro-wrestling. He was scouted at a sambo tournament and invited to join the RINGS promotion. You're barking up the wrong tree if you think it was Volk who was disgusted with pro-wrestling. We're talking about a martial arts practitioner who agreed to do worked shoots. If he had been disgusted by pro-wrestling, he would have never agreed to do works. By his own admission, he was "working" in the sambo tournament to attract Maeda's attention, and he got over with the Japanese press and fans in large part to his charisma and the pro-wrestling licks he used in his matches. There was never a question of Volk working anywhere else. He was fiercely loyal to Maeda and called himself Maeda's soldier. You can hold that against him if you wish, but it was never on the cards.
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The whole of Japan is miserable right now.
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I wasn't overly thrilled with the Sandman Mystery Theatre "Phantom of the Fair" arc. For the first time in the series, it felt like there was too much story in the arc. Sandman Mystery Theatre is such a tightly plotted book, and so well paced, that I almost always feel compelled to read an arc in a single sitting, but this arc dragged. It couldn't figure out what it wanted to be. At first, you had Wesley brooding over the future, and the spectre of war, against the backdrop of the World's Fair. Then suddenly it was about Wesley confronting his own prejudices and homophobia. Personally, I couldn't understand how Wesley could be homophobic given everything we've learned about him thus far. My bigger problem, however, was how the two themes were meant to be connected. Utopia ideals vs. man's basic nature? Another murder, another direct connection to the titular character. At least this murder prompted Wesley to behave in new ways. I don't like the way Wesley and Dian's relationship has been thrown on the backburner. Dian has a job now and has found some purpose in her life, all Wesley and Dian do is engage in endless rounds of foreplay (okay, people had sex in the 1930s, I get it!) I did like the clumsy fight scene at the end of the arc. I like the fact that Wesley is perhaps the most nonathletic superhero, ever. I guess Dian being involved more in the crimefighting side of things is a welcome development, but their relationship hasn't felt right to me since she ran off to England. There are an increasing number of cameos from other Golden Age heroes. Ted Knight did not seem like the Ted Knight I know from James Robinson's Star Man. I dug the Jim Corrigan appearance, though. Another thing that threw me off about this arc was the overhaul of the cover designs. They are trying to make the covers look like the covers to an old pulp magazine or movie poster, but they would have looked much better if they'd been painted or done with pencil art. Another series I wrapped up was Earth X. I'm not a huge fan of dystopian future storytelling these days (perhaps because we're living in one right now), but the series grew on me towards the end. I'm not in a rush to read the sequels, but the art was nice and there was some intrigue, which is all I really hope for from a comic.
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Harley Race vs. Gino Hernandez (NWA World Title Sept 28, 1980) This was a decent match. One thing I'll say for Harley is that he did a good job of working with younger guys like Gino and the Von Erich kids. As far as bogus finishes go, I think I'd take Flair with his feet on the ropes over Harley being tossed over the top rope.
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This Vampiro vs. Bucanero beef is so much better than it has a right to be. I can't really say much more about GdI at this stage except that they're compulsory viewing, but Vampiro looks like the real deal in this feud. There's no sloppiness, no awkward moments, and no moments where he's hunched over sucking in the big ones. He looks like a badass and fights like one. I don't know why these two are clicking, but it's fun to watch. There's a nice callback to the Casas/Tarzan Boy hair match, too, with Tarzan Boy trolling Casas over losing his hair. Casas lets rip on Tarzan Boy, which is both awesome and a reminder of how shitty the apuesta match was. I can't believe I want to see more Vampiro.
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Buddy Colt vs. Big Bad John (December 26th, 1972) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- Buddy was one of those guys who could size up their opponent and deliver exactly the right kind of match. Big Bad John is pretty bad, but watch how Buddy sells for him, and the offense he uses to clobber him later on. Just perfect. Good stuff. Buddy Colt vs. Frank Hester (January 4th, 1975) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) - tremendous heat for this, especially when Hester makes his comeback. Buddy rules as usual. Good stuff. Buddy Colt vs. Tim Geohagen (August 29th, 1972) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) (CWF) -- I've never head of Tim Geohagen, but Solie sold this Buddy vs. Geohagen was a major feud, and suddenly I was all revved up about Tim Geohagen. Danny McShain was the ref for this one, which is cool because he's another guy who we have limited footage of who could have a case for Top 100. Good stuff. Don Muraco vs. The Mongolian Stomper (November 12th, 1974) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- not really a showcase for Muraco. Stomper beats him up after the match and Dusty does a run-in. OK footage. Don Muraco vs. Pak Song (June 18th, 1974) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- another Muraco match that puts over the heel. Pak Song had some cool offense. Gary Hart is on commentary and does some decent schtick. OK footage. Jack Brisco vs. Mike Hammer (1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- fabulous little television match. You've gotta love how much amateur stuff Brisco pulls out in these short TV bouts. What a wrestler. Great stuff. Jack Brisco vs. The Gestapo (October 24th, 1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- even against masked wrestlers like The Gestapo, Jack is doing his amateur takedowns and awesome pin attempts. Jack Brisco, I love you. Great stuff. The Last Tangle In Tampa: Harley Race vs. Dusty Rhodes (August 3rd, 1980) (Tampa Stadium) -- Dusty cuts a barely audible promo in a swimming pool (something about Apocalypse Now II). Match is simple but effective. It's a one hour broadway, so I'm assuming it had a lot of down time. There's no deny the connection Dusty had with the crowd. Race is getting fatter here and growing out his beard. He barely gets a lick of offense in during the footage, but it's cleared towards showing Dusty as the victor of the match but not being able to claim the title. Awesome Dusty promo afterward. Good stuff.
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Demon Slayer is a decent series. I read it because my daughter was so heavily into it, and I was buying the volumes for her. Towards the end of the series when the popularity is exploding, you get the feeling that the mangaka is burnt out and in a desperate rush to finish the series. My favorite thing about the series was the tragic backstories. Every time they'd slay a demon, you'd find out the person's history and what led them to becoming a demon. Some of the backstories really got to me.
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I finished the Sandman Mystery Theatre arcs "Dr. Death", "The Night of the Butcher", "The Hourman" and "The Python." Absolutely one of the most tightly plotted series I've read with each arc being compelling reading. The relationship between Wesley and Dian has taken twists and turns that I didn't expect, but I have to say it's the development of the supporting cast that I've enjoyed the most. I love Burke. Readers have come across cops like Burke in fiction countless times, but he still feels like a living, breathing character. I also like that they're saving some of the reveals until the end and throwing in a few red herrings. Night of the Butcher finally introduced a killer that wasn't immediately connected to the characters, and all it took was a bit of mutilation. I like Guy Davis' art, but I still find him to be a bit inconsistent. The characters' weight seems to change all the time, and I often get confused between his depiction of Dodds and the coroner, Hubert Klein. I'm really enjoying the series, which is why I'm burning through it so quickly. I also read Jim Starlin's Metamorphosis Odyssey from Epic Illustrated. I've been reading quite a few Marvel magazines lately, and I feel like they were an untapped avenue for Marvel's creators to enjoy creative freedom and explore their own original ideas instead of trying to shoehorn them into the monthly books. Very few creators took advantage of the possibilities of this new format, and there weren't a lot of successes, but Metamorphosis Odyssey was definitely a success. It was gorgeous to look at and the concept was intriguing. The execution wasn't perfect (it felt a bit rushed to me), but it was magnificent in its scope. I must admit, I immediately thought, "Wow, it's Green Arrow" when Vanth finally appeared.
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When did Edge morph into Emilio Charles Jr?
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Harley Race vs. Wahoo McDaniel Dream Match February 10, 1978 This was much better. Race gives Wahoo pretty much the entire match, but that's okay when it's a guy as tough as Wahoo, I actually liked how the only offense Race was able to muster was the headbutt while on one knee and those little jab-like headbutts from a standing position. I also liked that flat body bump Race took off Wahoo's chops. It was a touring champ performance from Harley, but it was an exciting one, and what the crowd wanted to see. This one goes in Harley's favor.
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I finished J. M. DeMatteis' run on Captain America. It took me a while to get through it as it wasn't a huge page turner for me, but I made it to the end. The reason I wanted to read the run was that I've always liked DeMatteis as a writer, and I really like the work he did on Spectacular Spider-Man in the 90s. DeMatteis likes to put his characters through a lot of anguish and mental torment, and they lash out at their loved ones a lot. We got plenty of that here. He really dug deep into the soul of the man, Steve Rogers. Captain America isn't a favorite of mine, and strikes me as a difficult character to write much like Wonder Woman or Superman, but DeMatteis did an excellent job of portraying Cap as more than just a symbol or an icon, but a guy with all sorts of anxieties. But he was also a guy who had hope, and believed in people and the values and ideals of his country. Now, a lot of that stuff is difficult to relate to as a non-American, but DeMatteis certainly explored it in depth. One thing I love about DeMatteis' work is the relationship between the hero and his antagonist. He develops these incredibly complex relationships between the hero and villain that aren't purely black and white. In Spectacular Spider-Man, it was the relationship between Peter Parker and Harry Osborn. In Captain America, it was Cap vs. the Red Skull. I don't know how much of Red Skull's backstory DeMatteis invented for this run, but the issue where Red Skull tells his life's story to Cap while Cap doesn't say a word the entire issue was a phenomenal piece of storytelling. Another thing i love about DeMatteis work is that you get those pages with no dialogue or captions that let the art tell the story, and those standalone pages are always emotionally powerful. For the most part, I thought the art was serviceable. Zeck did some good stuff before they pinched him for Secret Wars. DeMatteis' final issue was re-written by the editors, and he quit the series in anger which is a bummer, but overall I thought it was a decent run. I doubt it's something I'll revisit, but I'm glad I stuck it out to the end.
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[2002-10-11-APW] Super Dragon vs Bobby Quance
ohtani's jacket replied to Jetlag's topic in October 2002
I didn't realize these two had another match. Cool beans. Once again, they work a sweet mix of strikes, submission holds and counters. The Ironman stip is kind of pointless, especially with a 20 minute time limit, but it's a solid match.- 1 reply
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Robert Duranton vs. Gilbert Leduc (aired 1/15/65) This wasn't as bad as I was expecting. The first 10 minutes had some decent grappling. If they had built on that until the tempers flared and they began throwing manchettes, then the match would have been perfectly fine. It was when the valet got involved that it became unnecessarily silly. If Firmin's interference had been memorable in any sort of way, it may have been a different story, but it wasn't executed very well and spoiled the match. It would have made more sense to me if Duranton had unleashed a more vicious attack on Leduc similar to the beatings we've seen Leduc take in the past, or if it had led to a stirring comeback from Leduc. Instead, it was a limp disqualification. But the work itself wasn't that bad. Duranton brought his wrestling boots and clearly didn't want to be shown up by Leduc. Leduc didn't look as good as he did in the 50s, but very few wrestlers from the 50s look good in 60s footage for reasons I have yet to figure out. Forgettable match but nothing that really bugged me.
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Harley Race vs. El Halcon (AUGUST 31, 1979 NWA World Title) Not a great match to start revisiting Harley. He gets beat up before the bell by Bruiser Brody and spends the majority of the bout getting beat on. And this is a week after he won the title back on a bogus disqualification. I suppose he deserves some credit for fighting his way back into the match, but his comeback isn't particularly awe-inspiring, and then he gets beat up again after the bout. This is how you book your World's Heavyweight champion? Not the kind of Harley Race I want to see.
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One thing I find underwhelming about 2002 CMLL is that the single matches don't deliver like they ought to. I'm slowly starting to accept that CMLL is sliding closer toward having basic TV matches than the blowoff matches of ole. That said, this a well-worked bout. Damian jumped Satanico by running through the crowd and they basically pounded on each other for a solid five minutes. Satanico was fired up and the crowd fed off that energy. I didn't have huge expectations for this, so I was glad to see them work such a tight match. Satanico laid down the challenge for a hair match, and as we've seen with 2002 CMLL, the build up to these types of matches has been strong but the payoffs have been weak. We'll see if Satanico and Damian can take it up a notch. It's mystifying that despite some fairly solid booking by CMLL standards, we're still not seeing better singles matches.
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This match was built around Rey Bucanero trying to pick a fight with Vampiro. It was extremely well done and a tremendous showcase for Bucanero's talents as a worker. We all know he's a good worker, but he's often in the shadow of Ultimo Guerrero, the alpha. Here it was Bucanero's chance to shine and he took the bull by the horns and made Vampiro look like a bigger badass than he has during his entire CMLL return. Ultimo & Black Tiger did their part with some cool looking spots, but this was all about Vampiro & Bucanero and an excellent piece of business. GdI have become compulsory viewing in 2002, and this match is a perfect example of why.
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Quick match worked in the tecnico's style. I often wonder how they decide which way they're going to work these matches. Actually, I was surprised that the Talibanes could still work this style of match. Felino seemed to injure Emilio on a diving headscissors spot off the apron, and it looked for all money like Emilio gave him a receipt later on, but that may have been me getting excited about their mini match up. Bestia was awesome as usual. Such a hugely underrated talent. Casas had a buzz cut, which is something you don't see often. Surprisingly good match.
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One of the joys of lucha libre is random undercard trios matches. This wasn't the best example of this most pure of lucha libre artforms, but they did show it in full, which is rarity. I'm not sure where they dug Ringo Mendoza up from, but you've got to marvel at how clean looking his dropkick and plancha were. There were plenty of talented guys in this, but for the most part it was solid action without anyone standing out.
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North American Heavyweight Title Match: Bob Armstrong (c) vs. Buddy Colt (Title Change!) (1975) -- Armstrong has a neck injury but is determined to defend his title anyway. He's a bit of a goofy bugger on offense, but the crowd love it. Good stuff. Southern Heavyweight Title Match: Mark Lewin (c) vs. Buddy Colt (Title Change!) (February 6th, 1973) -- Mark Lewin as a babyface seems weird to me. Decent looking match, but not top shelf Buddy. Decent footage. Florida TV Title vs Florida Heavyweight Title: Mike Graham vs. Buddy Colt (February 19th, 1974) -- this was all about putting Mike Graham over. Graham was a decent worker, but you can't help but resist the hype when it's the promoter's kid. Nevertheless, he takes Colt to the 20 minute mark to retain his Florida TV title and has some good moments. Good stuff. Jack Brisco vs. Killer Khan (1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- this was a studio match. It must suck to be introduced as the former World Heavyweight wrestling champion all the time. People say Brisco was washed at this point because his matches in Japan weren't very good, but I haven't seen much of a decline in his Stateside work. This was a short TV match with a 10 minute time limit, but watch how Brisco works it as realistically as he can. It's like an arena match crammed into the allocated time. I don't know how Brisco felt about this career at this point. Perhaps he was frustrated that he was no longer part of the title picture, but y'know, when you climb to the top eventually you have to come down the other side, and I don't think Jack's later work is bad at all. Good TV bout. Lights Out Match: Buddy Colt & Dusty Rhodes vs. Paul Jones & Eddie Graham (November 20th, 1973) -- the finish to a wild lights out match with Dusty bleeding while Paul Jones karate chops him in the face, and Buddy Colt and Eddie Graham going at it. Highly entertaining. Florida Heavyweight Title Match: Cowboy Bill Watts (c) vs. Dick Murdoch (January 25th, 1975) (CWF) -- Watts has a porno moustache here. These guys are a perfect match up for each other, and they work the match exactly how it should be worked by repeatedly punching each other in the face. Good stuff. Florida Heavyweight Title Match: Bill Watts (c) vs. Don Muraco (August 13th, 1974) -- Fantastic heel commentary from Watts. Watts put Muraco over as the next Jack Brisco, which is interesting. I wonder if Muraco is an early example of a guy who dogged it in New York. That may be unfair as I seem to recall his early WWWF stuff being good. Good stuff.
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Greatest Feud of the 90s Tournament: Second Round
ohtani's jacket replied to AA484's topic in Pro Wrestling
Bracket #1 1. Steve Austin vs. Vince McMahon VS 9. Raven vs. Sandman 5. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels VS 4. Vader vs. Cactus Jack 6. The Undertaker vs. Mankind VS 3. Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart/Hart Foundation 7. Steve Austin vs. The Rock VS 2. New Japan vs. UWFi Bracket #2 1. WCW vs. nWo VS 9. Sting vs. Vader 5. Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn VS 4. Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage 11. Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts VS 3. Los Gringos Locos vs. AAA 7. WAR vs. New Japan VS 2. Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan Bracket #3 1. Jumbo Tsuruta, et.al. vs. Mitsuharu Misawa et.al. VS 9. El Hijo del Santo vs. Negro Casas 5. Raven vs. Tommy Dreamer VS 4. Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Psicosis 11. Aja Kong vs. Bull Nakano VS 3. Dean Malenko vs. Eddie Guerrero 10. Sting vs. Cactus Jack VS 15. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Randy Savage Bracket #4 1. Mitsuharu Misawa, et.al. vs. Toshiaki Kawada, et.al. VS 9. Jerry Lawler vs. Eddie Gilbert 5. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart VS 13. Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai 6. Rick Rude vs. Ricky Steamboat VS 3. Moondogs vs. Jerry Lawler & Jeff Jarrett 7. Rock & Roll Express vs. Heavenly Bodies VS 2. Jushin Liger, et.al. vs. Shinjiro Ohtani, et.al. -
Steel Cage Match: Paul Jones vs. Buddy Colt (April 14th, 1973) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- this is a better VQ version of the Paul Jones vs. Buddy Colt cage match with commentary by Buddy. Y'know, Paul Jones has been something of a revelation for me. I'm not really a territories guy and I'm only really familiar with Jones as a manager. I don't think I've seen a single match from the never-ending Jimmy Valiant feud. I'm pretty sure he only lasted a few years in Florida before returning to Mid-Atlantic. He's been a superb all-round worker in this footage. He's probably in that second tier below the very best workers, but extremely good. Buddy is Buddy. Good stuff. Southern Heavyweight Title Match: Tim Woods (c) vs. Buddy Colt (Title Change!) (October 31st, 1972) Southern Heavyweight Title Match: Buddy Colt (c) vs. Tim Woods (November 21st, 1972) The first match is pretty much the finish. The second match is more illuminating. According to Solie, Florida had special rules for 2/3 falls matches. The first fall was a technical wrestling fall and the second fall was a no holds barred, no DQ brawl. The winner of the second fall was able to choose whether the third fall was technical wrestling or brawling. I don't know if all 2/3 fall matches were like this, or if it was a stip they used from time to time. It may have been an experimental thing. For all I know, Solie may just be talking shit over some 7mm film. But it's kind of interesting. Buddy shows his chops in the wrestling fall. Good stuff. Jack & Jerry Brisco vs. Dory Funk Jr. & Terry Funk (1973) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- This is the finishing stretch of an exciting looking match between the Funks and the Briscos. Young Terry is so weird to me. His growth in the mid-70s was exponential. Dory is underrated at brawling. Good stuff. Jack & Jerry Brisco vs. Len Denton & Butch Bronson (1977) @The Sportatorium -- this is a studio squash match with both Briscos showing off their wrestling skills. I have no idea what made them want to show off their amateur skills in a squash match, but it was magnificent. Great stuff. The Dusty Rhodes Babyface Turn! (The Match That Changed The Course Of Wrestling History) (1974) -- Dusty commentates over his face turn. Batshit insane, as you can imagine. Superbowl Of Wrestling: Gordon Solie Interviews Harley Race (January 25th, 1978) @The Orange Bowl Gordon Solie Interviews Harley Race (1977) @The Sportatorium Gordon Solie Interviews Harley Race (1973) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) Gordon Solie Interviews Harley Race (1975) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) A series of Harley Race interviews. Harley was such an awesome promo. He stumbled over his words at times, but he came across as dead serious. You got the feeling that he meant every single word he said. The interesting thing about the promos is that we all know the lineage of the NWA title in the 70s (and if you don't then never mind, Solie will drill it into your head like arithmetic), but what we get here is some of the context. You get promos after Harley has lost the title to Brisco and hear about how hard he's working to return to the top of the mountain, and promos after he's won the title for a second time and proved the first title wasn't a fluke. Little things you could never gleam from a title history page. Harley Race vs. Angelo Poffo (1977) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) Harley Race vs. Frank Dusek (1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) Let's take a look at the man in action. These were studio squash matches. Pure offense from Harley. Harley had such great offense. If he had worked as a defensive wrestler instead of a stooge, he would be super high on my all-time greats list instead of fluctuating so wildly. The Harley you see in these matches is my ideal version of him. Good stuff.
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Florida TV Title Match: Jack Brisco (c) vs. Buddy Colt (Title Change!) (June 30th, 1973) -- Buddy Colt is so awesome. I could watch him all day. In fact, I might just do that! This has Buddy working over Jack's arm, which Jack sells magnificently because Jack Brisco is a magnificent pro-wrestler. Good stuff. Florida Heavyweight Title Match: Jack Brisco (c) vs. Buddy Colt (Title Change!) (February 20th, 1973) -- these two go at it again. Buddy loved to work over Brisco's arm, didn't he? Buddy had a rep for putting guys out of wrestling and he'd broken Johnny Walker's arm a couple of times, so they always make a big deal out of his arm work. Brisco sells magnificently, but what's cool here is that we get to see Jack throw the rulebook out and furiously attack Colt. He busts Buddy's head open by ramming it into the ringpost and keeps punching his forehead. Tremendous babyface ring rage. It backfires on him, though, when he follows Buddy to the outside and Buddy decimates him with a chair shot. That's justice, I suppose. Babyfaces aren't supposed to cross the line. Good stuff. N.W.A. World Heavyweight Title Match: Dusty Rhodes (c) vs. Harley Race (August 26th, 1979) -- there's a lot to unpack here. After Dusty won the title in Tampa, there was a protest lodged by Harley Race's camp stating there should have been a disqualification due to the over the top rule. The NWA Board of Directors in a split decision decided to waive the title can't change hands on a DQ rule for the rematch in Orlando (though it's not clear why, and Solie can't explain it well.) Before the bell, Terry Funk attacks Dusty and breaks his arm. Dusty fights through the pain and wrestles the match with one arm. Then the fatal moment comes where he back body drops Harley over the top rope (kind of stupid, Dusty.) Harley cuts a phenomenal promo -- seriously dude's promos are better than his matches. Back in the studio, Jos LeDuc wants the TV time he paid for and Dusty snaps. He beats the tar out of LeDuc and threatens Solie too. Nobody's getting funky with Dusty anymore! LeDuc even gigs. Commitment. It's amazingly how poorly all of this footage is sliced together, especially the terribly lit backstage promos, but exciting stuff nonetheless. Good stuff. Southern Heavyweight Title Match: Paul Jones (c) vs. Ron Fuller (Title Change!) (April 10th, 1973) -- I wasn't sure what to expect from a young Ron Fuller but this was an excellent title match. There was a huge height difference between them, and a massive gap in experience, but they went toe-to-toe, and Jones put over Fuller with aplomb. Fuller looked the goods both brawling and wrestling. The finish was iffy, but they were angling towards Jones vs. Colt, I believe. Great stuff. Wahoo McDaniel vs. Killer Karl Kox (September 5th, 1978) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- this is a post-match brawl between Kox & Wahoo. It looked great, but I would have liked to have seen a few clips of what made Wahoo so incensed. Wahoo is a guy who I haven't been able to get into but I'm forever hopeful. OK footage. The Great Malenko vs The Great Mattress (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- Malenko wrestles a mattress. I'm not making this up.
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If you're a Bret fan, then the one area where Rey can't beat him is the image of Bret as a heavyweight champ. I know they gave Rey a run with the belt. It was a nice moment and all, but not as meaningful as Bret's run. Bret was a trail blazer. A guy who showed you could come up through the ranks -- as a tag wrestler and an IC title level guy -- and become a world champion. Everyone who came afterward followed Bret's path. Rey is an amazing babyface and a great television worker, and I admire the way he adjusted to the WWE style and built an entire second career there. He definitely has Bret beat for volume. Best vs. best would be an interesting exercise, but eventually Bret would run out of matches. I can see an argument for Bret's most famous matches being better than Rey's, but the flipside to the advantage Rey has of working the modern TV style is that Bret had far greater opportunities to craft memorable matches given how crap the majority of the wrestling was. I love Bret vs. Owen to death, but would it have stood out as much if the WWF had produced the quality of wrestling that WCW did pre-Hogan? I always feel like Bret could have done more -- better matches in the territories, some better WWF matches, better WCW matches -- but I can't say the same about Mysterio. I prefer Bret as a wrestler and character, but I don't think Rey's career or output can be denied. Rey takes this.