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I'm going to be in Portland, OR from 12/9-12/12, does anyone here know of any wrestling shows in PDX or the surrounding areas? PM me

That King of the Road match is an awesome brawl though

The big difference between Hot Topic and Spencer's Gifts is I can't buy my fart spray or novelty stay hard cream at Hot Topic.

Does that mean none of the Evolve shows are available to watch anymore?

Sidenote: I saw ICP wrestle AND perform at a San Francisco show in 2004 as part of a release party for a Hardcore Wrestling video game. TSOL, Kool Keith and ICP all played, Andrew WK was the host, and had a Madman Pondo vs. Supreme match, a New Jack match, Vic Gimres, ICP wrestling Corp. Robinson and 2 Tuff Tony, maybe some other stuff. I don't totally remember how we got in, but it was free, and it may have been some kind of invite only industry thing? It's foggy. But there were only 300 or so people there. Would ICP wrestling really be a big draw in 2017?

Are we talking having ICP do a concert as part of the draw? It seems like cheating to have a concert/wrestling show and count it as a 10,000 wrestling show. I saw wrestling at the fair when I was a kid, but I'm not sure I'd also count the attendance for the Eddie Rabbitt show that happened after.

Can't get the "Quotes" to work for some reason, but RE: the math that would add up to 10,000 post up above, wouldn't that assume that each fan in attendance is only a specific fan of each of those wrestlers, with no crossover? Like if the Bucks are good for 500, and Omega is good for 2500, that's somehow assuming that there are 500 people who like the Young Bucks but not Omega, and vice versa. It seems like it would be double, triple, quadruple counting fans. I think the math only works when one name is added onto a card. I'm going to a lucha show in January with Negro Casas. It also has Solar and Skayde. My friends and I would have gone to the show if literally only ONE of those guys were on the card. So if only Skayde were on the show, they could count on 5 tickets purchased from my friends and me. With the additional, more expensive names, they're still getting our 5 tickets. At a certain point it becomes less about adding up the individual draws, and becomes just a big show.

How much did Hogan draw for that "big" Memphis show a decade ago, the one he thought would lead to a full tour? 4,000?

Reviewed the 11/9/96 show, which didn't have any blowaway matches but was still a really fun show. It had a weird Matt Borne-as-Doink match where he stiffs the hell out of Onryo but also makes Onryo look good. It has Tenryu and Araya as the heels against Kazuo Yamazaki and Iizuka. It has some great undercarder performances from guys who were wrestling short timers, like Gokuaku Omibozu. El Samurai and Liger look awesome in the main event. A real fun show. http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2017/11/segunda-caida-declares-war-11996.html

I'm sure it was some shitty Scott Keith talking point that's nowhere near accurate.

I really dug Uso/Benjamin. TV matches this year haven't really been up to prior year levels, but sometimes a little 7 minute match can come out of nowhere and really surprise. The Bludgeon Brothers have an even worse look than Ascension. What a terrible look on those two.

So Tony Nese took the lumbar check and managed to skid across the mat on his head for 5 feet.

I think El Samurai had really great stomps

Tamina has been in WWE for 8 years and still wrestles as badly as she does. What a strange time to try out a superstar Tamina push. Of course, seeing Emma get to take Asuka to the limit and then get fired, maybe this means Tamina is finally gone? I love Brock when he's selling. I think his bumping and selling is among the best ever, we just haven't seen it nearly enough the last couple years. Both elimination matches were really bad.

I'm doing a live blog over at Segunda Caida. Last year's SS was one of the toughest shows to get through of the entire year, though I ended up actually liking the 40 minute + main event a lot more than most folks. This card looks a lot more interesting. http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2017/11/wwe-survivor-series-2017-live-blog.html

I work with a woman who is not a wrestling fan, she is a John Cena fan. She watches wrestling JUST to see his appearances, has bobbleheads and action figures of him at her desk, literally knows nothing else about wrestling if it's not directly involving Cena. Kenny Omega doesn't have a woman like that, anywhere. Those kind of women would show up to see John Cena making ANY kind of appearance.

Hogan gets a little sluggish and sandbaggy the longer the match goes, but the first 4 minutes are awesome. Hogan had some instinctive mat reactions that mat the idea of Shooter Hogan believable. Tenryu and Savage each contribute greatly to the match. Tenryu doesn't tone down his stuff for an American, really blasting Savage with chops. Savage works an energetic match with hard bumps, lots of character work and crowd interaction, two big leaps from the top to the floor, 3 flying elbows; Savage was really busting ass for that part of his career, and Tenryu's selling was top notch even for him. Hart/Takano was really good too. It was a show that was really saved by the WWF guys.

I reviewed the 4/1/91 SWS show and added it to our ongoing WAR review list. It had a bunch of WWF guys on it, including the infamous Tenta/Kitao staredown, a really good Hart/George Takano match, a way too fun Savage/Tenryu match, and 4 minutes of Hogan's greatest matwork. http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2017/11/segunda-caida-declares-war-sws-wrestle.html

For a match that featured one guy not doing any offense at all, I thought Braun/Miz was some perfect pro wrestling.

Summer Rae's pop ins on Total Divas were far and away the best parts of that show. So that's too bad.

Bummer, Nia has been one of my favorite things about WWE the last 6 months. And just like the weird reactions when Low-Ki recently left whatever that fed is called, it's weird that people seem mad that a wrestler made a personal choice because they didn't agree with management. Being a pussy for disagreeing with WWE? What a fucking joke.

At minimum the wrestlers he had a hand in training should be proof of his influence, and should be easily enough to help get his candidacy over the line.

From what we've seen so far, these are our favorite Terry matches of the year: vs. Demus 3:16 w/ Diablo Jr. vs. Veneno/Chicano w/ Negro Navarro vs. Blue Panther/The Panther w/ Diablo Jr. vs. Traumas Matches all linked in review, should still work

I actually had a total blast with the main event, AND loved the Owens/Shane match from last month. I thought this was a super fun show that overdelivered. These often turn out well, the shows that seem like not much on paper.

Jordan and Elias had a weirdly great chemistry.