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Umaga wasn't dead in the water either, but he certainly was never in a position to face a guy like The Rock after not winning the title. Rusev will be the same.

No way! Rusev is dead the moment he challenges for the title and loses. He is the new Umaga, etc... Not what I would do, but this is their pattern. Build him up, challenge the champion, and lose. He may get a title shot at SummerSlam with Reigns or something, then slowly move down the card.

Too bad one of them is Roderick Strong, which seems like such a waste. I would watch the ACH match and am excited. No desire to see Daniels, but that is a smart match to book. Strong though? They have to have better opponents than that, don't they?

Who the heck wants to see Rock-Rusev? I only want to see that if it is a 6 minute squash, ala Vader-Inoki.

Being a Canadian who doesn't have cable, I'm sticking with the US version via unblock.us.

http://placetobenation.com/pro-wrestling-super-show-top-6-desert-island-matches/ Host: Steven Graham Guests: Pete (Titans of Wrestling) & Kris Zellner (Lucha Report) We are stranded on a desert island and we only have an unlimited power source, dvd player, TV and 6 wrestling matches. Which 6 do we take with us? Find out here!

was a rematch from the previous month? Heck, run anyone vs Lesnar with Cena in their corner if that helps. Dolph w/ Cena vs Brock or Mark Henry w/ Cena vs Brock or Sheamus w/ Cena vs Brock all would had drew just as well and not ruined the SummerSlam story and made the Rumble match better. The Rumble match is now not a big deal, because of NOC.

It's really baffling (well, not really) that Cena had the rematch at NOC. It got crushed at SummerSlam and they should had built to the Rumble rematch. Brock destroying anyone else in September would had been more interesting and less stale feeling.

Sorry, 31, didn't read title well enough. Man, 32 is so far off, hard to predict. Taker in HOF, Austin involvement are good bets. Anything outside of that would be silly to predict. What I would love is for Rusev to be the dominant heel champion for at least ten months coming into this.

Prediction: Reigns-Lesnar Rollins-Orton Cena-Rusev Sting-HHH Taker-Bray I nly want to see Cena-Rusev out of that.

The Rowan Big Show talk was the best reaction since this show started.

Life and the 97 yearbook distracted me from this thread, but a minis match popping up on the 97 yearbook made me pretty happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv8PKmlJGKQ Cicloncito Ramirez vs Damiancito el Guerrero (CMLL 1/7/97) Ok, this is a must watch and the best match I've seen since I started this thread. The matwork is out of this world smooth. When they hit high spots, they are amazing, including two of the best topes I have ever seen. The third fall is one of the best final falls I have seen and was so great, I rewound and watched again. I loved this match and will re-visit it again. Just perfect lucha title match wrestling. **** 1/2

The matwork is out of this world smooth. When they hit high spots, they are amazing, including two of the best topes I have ever seen. The third fall is one of the best final falls I have seen and was so great, I rewound and watched again. I loved this match and will re-visit it again. Just perfect lucha title match wrestling. **** 1/2

For 15, I was thinking of Tracy Smothers, Bull Nakano or Shinya Hashimoto? Who should take the last spot or do you have a better suggestion?

So, for the 15 spots, so far: 1) Mascarita Dorada 2) Tommy Rich 3) Ronnie Garvin 4) Bruno Sammartino 5) Vic Faulkner 6) Osamu Nishimura 7) Invader I 8) Eric Embry 9) Virus 10) Eddie Guerrero 11) Larry Zbyszko 12) Ron Starr 13) Jushin Liger 14) Tony Anthony

I'd love to hear Dave talk again broach the subject of reevaluating old footage. Since World launched that's pretty much all he's been doing. It's a pretty seismic shift from someone who once directly told me that reevaluating old footage was a waste of time because you have to be in the moment to get a match. Not this shit again. He doesn't believe in rerating old matches, because he believes in sticking with the rating he gave it in the moment, which is perfectly reasonable and makes a ton of sense, yet is constantly misinterpreted by some here. This has nothing to do with rewatching old matches, and *gasp*, enjoying them. Actually it's insane. Imagine if movies, paintings and music couldn't be re-evaluated? It's a Wonderful Life would be a nothing movie nobody would watch, if that was the case.

Instead of the European Title, they should really make either a Network Title (Title only defended on the Network) or an Online Title (all matches posted to youtube).

That was D-Lo. The Euro title never meant anything. It's been a one match (Owen vs Bulldog in Germany) title. Nah, I'm pretty sure that was Al Snow. He came out to several themed European stereotypes or whatever. He may have, but D-Lo did it first.

It doesn't matter in a sense that I don't take it into consideration when ranking guys. Although it matters in a sense that being in the main event alters what they did.

I still don't get this. Card placement matters for the main reason is opportunity. Main Eventers get more opportunities to have big matches at the top of the card, but why is that relevant? Nobody is ranking Triple H above Psicosis, for example. Nobody is ranking Great Khali at all or Sid, while we have threads discussing Jim Brunzell and Brad Armstrong. Sure, the top guys on the list may be at the top of cards, but who cares? It doesn't mean that being at the top of the card means you get placed above people on lower cards. I'm confused.

Depends on the person. Regal is great, but Triple H sure had a lot more opportunities to look great.

The list will be skewed towards main eventers, because they have more opportunities to have great matches.

Discuss here.

Discuss here.

So, for the 15 spots, so far: 1) Mascarita Dorada 2) Tommy Rich 3) Ronnie Garvin 4) Bruno Sammartino 5) Vic Faulkner 6) Osamu Nishimura 7) Invader I 8) Eric Embry 9) Virus 10) Eddie Guerrero 11) Larry Zbyszko That leaves 4 spots I will wait to fill based on arguments and more suggestions. Keep them coming, there are lots of guys on this list I would had never thought about.