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This is why I enjoyed Hollywood Hogan much more than Hulk.
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We don't need more wrestling/porn analogies.
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Tons of good points have been made about how goofy this whole deal is, but this one is probably the greatest. Wasn't Brock around during a real down time before things got better with the emergence of Cena ?
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[1995-02-04-ECW-Double Tables] Sabu & Taz vs Public Enemy
El-P replied to Loss's topic in February 1995
I don't think the problem is that it doesn't hold up well. The problem is that it always sucked. P.E. were godawful in the ring. -
My favourite story is the infamous "Great Muta is afraid of a kid" one. Apparently, some little kid punched Muta, and Keiji sold it, and during the rest of the match he would act scared of the kid each time he would go to the outside. If that's true, that's pretty awesome of Keiji Mutoh.
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[1995-01-22-WWF-Royal Rumble] 1-2-3 Kid & Bob Holly vs Bam Bam Bigelow & Tatanka
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
From what I remember, all four worked pretty hard. At the time I was glad to see Holly do something worthwhile for a change and Tatanka wasn't completely ruined by the heel turn yet. -
Public Enemy were only fun in vignettes. Their matches were mostly unwatchable.
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The fact that Raven came off like a pretentious whiner and bullshiter was also the point. That's why down to earth Tommy Dreamer worked so well as his mortal enemy.
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I loved Alex Wright. Loved the bright color trunks, loved the techno music theme, loved the stupid one-move dance like you said, loved the heel turn, thought Berlyn had tons of potential and was gutted to see the big stiff bodyguard get the push instead. A truly lost worker of the 90's.
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Loved that match back in the days. Last time I checked though, the SS match was even better, if only for the lack of goofy run-ins.
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Doom vs Steiner was their best match together, much better than any of the 1989 matches. Super stiff with bombs left and right, although they did fuck up the transition a bit, and didn't do anything with a brutal Reed piledriver. Cool finish, but it was obviously the exact same kind of finish used in the MX match, with the same effects (title change), which was a bit odd. Lex Luger vs Ric Flair in a cage was a great match before the rather shitty finish. I hate the concept of a cage match ending with someone actually getting in the cage and interfering. El Gigante debuts alongside Sting and Ross acts like he knows the guy, which was stupid all things considered since he was never brought up before on TV. And damn did he look clumsy and clueless. Compare that with the awesome debut he made in WWF... Anyway, the match itself was pretty great, Flair was still at the top of his game to me, and he actually puts the figure-four on the right leg for once. Neat pre-match bit during which the referee insists on checking Woman and actually finds a foreign object inside one of her glove. Gold. But damn, if Ole booked that finish, then *this* is the first brainfart of the Ole regime. Luger gets beaten up, and Sting saves the day, making it obvious he's the chosen one to dethrone Flair. Which kinda sucks, because Luger was really hot and looked like he was ready to take the spot. The inclusion of El Gigante and JYD in the mix just doesn't look promising...
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Is there photographic proof of this? Not just odd but so odd I can't actually believe such a thing occured. I made you two screen captures : Flair's got a ponytail Flair's got a ponytail 2 And you can see he was wearing it during that match too : Ric Flair (with a ponytail) vs Lex Luger Maybe Flair's first big hairstyle crisis before the infamous 1991 one.
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That's hilarious !!
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They sure got some fresh blood around Capital Combat. One week Barry Windham is coming back after his failed WWF stint to join the Horsmen back. The following week Ole unveils Sid as the fourth Horseman. Dutch Mantell and the Southern Boys debut on TV. And then you got Junkyard Dog coming back at CC, which is not exactly "fresh" blood, but he was still over I guess. And Flair is wearing a ponytail. Odd. I see how they downplay Robocop as much as they can, with all the heel color guys basically shrugging his involvment off as meaningless after the first week, Arn calling him R2D2, it's obvious they just didn't want to put him over as a big deal. Watched the first hald of CC, with the excellent MX vs Pillman & Zenk match, with great work from Eaton & Pillman, some great nearfalls you didn't usually see back then, and a (relatively) clean finish to boot. And the Rock'n Roll Express vs Freebird match which was as good as you can get from Hayes & Garvin, much better than I thought it would after the dreadfull 2/3 falls match. The RnR were awesome of course, but the difference maker was Hayes showing up and working as hard as he can. Never thought I would enjoy a Freebird match as much as I did after months if shitty work. Garvin still pretty much sucks though.
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[1995-01-22-WWF-Royal Rumble] Jeff Jarrett vs Razor Ramon
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
I haven't seen this in ages, but I used to like the entire Razor vs Jarrett feud quite a bit. They had a good chemistry, the three of them (Road Dog on the outside brought his share to the matches). I enjoy their WM match too. I've awlays been a fan of Jarrett 95-98. -
Yep. Compare that with Owen in New Japan two years before. It's kinda sad to see how WWF style fucks up good workers.
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I like the fact that they didn't pretend Raven was someone other than who he previously was. Raven smacking Stevie around was always fun, and their interactions was always gold during that period. I love the Raven character.
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[1995-01-17-ECW-TV] Music Video: Raven / Interview: Raven
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Despite grunge actually being dead at this point, this was as pop-culture relevant as US wrestling could ever be. Really striking difference with what WCW and WWF was doing at the time. Raven was also the first depressive wrestling character I think.- 6 replies
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[1995-01-21-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/ Brian Pillman
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Some fascinating stuff I wasn't aware of happened in 1995 I see.- 12 replies
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It's stricking to see how much Luger had fallen at this point. The previous year he was the favourite to win the Rumble, did co-won it and went to WrestleMania to face Yoko. One year later, after a long boring feud against the Million Dollar Corporation, one could think he would be launched back in the mix on top. Not quite.
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I have watched quite a bit of UWF (1st one) last month, and I'm back at watching WCW 1990.
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In the lights of the recent "Muppets on Raw" controversy, I must admit Robocop being Sting's big surprise does come off completely idiotic. First huge brainfart of the Ole regime. The most surrealistic aspect of it being Jim Cornette having to sell it in a serious way, and Ole and Arn cutting promos about Robocop. Just doesn't work on any level. The Freebirds continue to be unbearable in the ring, even the Rock'n Roll Express can barely make them tolerable, just way too much stalling, way too little offense and way too much restholds. Nice little undercard feud between Samu and Eddie Gilbert, having pretty long matches for TV format, going to draws. Samu was easily the best samoan so it's good to see him feature in singles matches. I finally got around to enjoy Eddie Gilbert. Took me years. I had no idea Joel Deaton worked a bit in WCW, but although he was a really good worker in All Japan, his matches with Tommy Rich aren't exactly setting the world on fire. He also has a very weird left pec muscle which actually distracts me at times. I'm not feeling Tommy Rich at all most of the times, unless he's with a really good or hot worker. I've cooled off on Stan Lane recently (meaning he doens't annoy me like he used to), as his kick don't bother me as much as they used to, so I guess it's a matter of getting used to it, and he had a good little single match with Z Man. Cornette on commentary was gold. Hell, Cornette was gold in any capacity at this point, commentary, interviews, manager. Teddy Long is pretty damn good also, lots of good promos and good heel color man work. The Minnesato Wrecking Crew II already reverted to JTTS status after a few weeks, being beaten by Z Man and Pillman in a US tag title match. They don't appear much of a threat to the Steiners all of a sudden. These guys really couldn't catch a break, it's a bit sad.
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What happened with Hijo del Santo ?
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[1995-03-26-AJW-Wrestling Queendom: Victory] Manami Toyota vs Aja Kong
El-P replied to Loss's topic in March 1995
Definitive Aja beats the fuck out of Toyota match. Great match.- 14 replies