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That would have been pretty awesome, but I doubt Hogan and his crew would have him let get the heat.

Well, I'm sure he wouldn't be more embarrasing than say, Flair's last ten years. In Japan in a retro promotion like Muga when it existed, yeah, I guess. Elsewhere, I highly doubt it.

Oh, god yeah. And do some actual editing. And have a proper sound.

Yep. That's why the best ones really are when a guy tells tons of stories. I'm currently listening to Tracey Smother's (from 2003 I think), and it's really fun. But it's 90% a monologue. The guy from KC seems like he would be a better interviewer than anyone from RF, Highspots, but the formats he work with doens't allow real in depth interviews.

Man, The Wall was awful...

I remember those clips. This was indeed so odd, because it made Backlund look like a relic from some ancient time, when he was the same age as Ric Flair (43), and Savage was already 41.

How far behind pop culture wrestling is ? I mean, this was right out of the mid-80's. Even in 1998, Hammer still sucked in the ring, this guy never amounted to anything, amazing he was kept around for so long.

Seems like garbage wankery to me, but I don't have a problem with it since it is clearly portrayed as a "wrestling match" and not mindless man on woman violence. Plus like MJH said, Necro seems to put the girl over pretty big, so in the end I have no problem with this. A babyface bullying a woman to the applauds of the crowd, I do have a problem with.

Thanks for the clarification. Always thought the term popped up from the first one, but now that I think of it, it makes sense it would be after the second.

I enjoyed Bradshaw way before it was fashionable to enjoy him. Back from the Justin "Hawk" days. I enjoyed the New Blackjacks. I enjoyed his first mini-push against Jarrett in 98. I thought he was decent as a third rate Stan Hansen, and stiff work was a breath of fresh air in the WWF at that time. But his work as JBL in big matches, nah, never saw anything that good in this. His matches with Eddie were some of the best matches I've seen from the modern WWE style, but that was basically 90% Eddie making them good. So, basically, I enjoyed Bradshaw when nobody cared and when he was a non-factor, and thought he was overrated as all hell when he was pushed to the moon, and just wasn't that good of a worker in that setting. The fact he finally got a push to the top just because he was basically an office stooge doesn't play in his favor either. It's not like he got super over either. On a side note, I miss true wrestling cowboys, it was a tradition. They all wore those same cowboy-like boots too.

Just watched the Chris Candido Shoot Interview, and it's one of the funniest and most candid (no pun intended) ones I've seen. It's also pretty heartbreaking that this guy had to die at 33 (and to think I am two years older than the age he died at). Really comes off as a super nice and honest guy. He also paints a pretty cool picture of Sabu as a really nice and generous guy.

From my recollection it's a terrific match. The Muta scale actually comes from the 1990.09.14 match, which wasn't as great in term of work, but even more gory. I also think it was one of Muta's first match, if not the first, on Japanese TV.

Simmons was a much better heel anyway I always thought. The Faarooq character had so much potential in WWF in 97, I would have loved to see him get a run with the belt at that time.

Yeah, Luger gets a bad rep because he wasn't the best worker (although much better than given credit for at one point), and most of all he wasn't a wrestling fan to begin with. He treated this strictly as a business. Add to that the fact that he was pushed to the moon very early on because of his body, and you get an unmissable mix for "bad rep". His fate is pretty tragic when you think about it.

Yes, Kosh was a AJ trainee. No idea why he jumped to NJ. It's pretty ironic that he would not be talked as the same level as the Three Musketeers, because for the longest time Kosh was considered much better than either Muto or Chono. I know I've lost track with the trend of the days, and maybe there has been a backlash against 80's Kosh (for whatever reason...), but really, last time I checked, Kosh was the reliable NJ heavy to get a good match with. As far as puch goes, he would simply never got ahead of the three Musketeers because he was a former junior, and former junior don't become big heavyweight star unless your name is Tatsumi Fujinami. He was destined to be just like Hase, a good upper midcard hand. He had shitloads of good matches and feuds, especially against guys who weren't the greatest workers (maybe John can jump in and talk about the super fun Kosh feud with the martial arts guys). He was also Choshu's assistant booker at one point I believe.

40/60 Main thing that struck me is how most of those modern themes blend together and are mostly terrible generic metal (or worst, autotune r'n', save for a few (MVP, Beth Phoenix). Worst theme I was embarrassed to even recognize was Mr. Ass... WTF were they thinking ? Lots of late 90's-early 00's were quite generic as well, but not as offensive.

I would call that a pretty sane and reasonnable opinion of things. And even then, Dave praises the shit out of some WWE matches, which I couldn't do for instance. There's no reason to be excited about pro-wrestling in 2011.

Lesnar was the only post 2000's WWF-only produced guy I really enjoy from the matches I've seen. The only legit really good worker that came from the WWF manufactury to me.

It's already dead for most people.

Yep, totally agree. Windham at his peak was the best wrestler on the planet.

One of the reasons I hated the Attitude Era audience so much : cheering violence against women. When heel Dudleys putting women through table gets huge pop instead of chorus of boos, something is wrong.

Way to make WM less special. Ah ah ah.

When I was watching 90's NJ TV back in 2002/2003, the famous Benoit/Liger series didn't do that much for me. To the point I enjoyed Liger vs Blood Outlaw Norio Honaga a lot more, and I dig Choshu's big single matches way more than Benoit's too.

Yep, you're right. Last time in his career Flair was a great character.

WWE.