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  1. To me, his debut. He was freaking creepy. The Satanic gimmick was just over the top Russo bullshit. I remember the satanic skit with the Mideon sacrifice was one of the clear moments that just made me to want to turn away from WWF, it was just stupid. Of course "That was me all along" rendered things even worse, and Satanic Taker being allied with the evil corporate boss made him look like just another bad gimmick. God, I hated 1999 so much.
  2. Ah ah ! I actually find this quite funny ! I would, but my hears aren't able to distinguish this particular one, not familiar enough to me. Did DDP have a strong Jersey accent ? The only american accent I'm really familiar with is the deep southern one. I can't say if someone is from New-York or Cali. I wonder if the differences are important (in France there are some extremely strong accent differences between north and south, east and west).
  3. Ah, those goofy "rest of the world" people.
  4. Nice to hear from you Schneider. Anyway. The point is, I don't need to google the Beatles, Outkast nor Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. I see kids today wearing Nirvana T-shirt, and they were probably born at the same time Cobain shoot himself. And yeah tons of kids cried when Michael Jackson died. Despite the fact Jackson wasn't relevant at all during any year of their existence.
  5. Pardon me but.... who is Bo Jackson ?
  6. I know. I admit it was just a cheap knock on Demott, who I actually enjoyed as a worker. But as you said, it's not like anyone he would have trained became anything. And really, although great worker doesn't equal great trainer, I'm scratching my head at the thought of Lance Storm for instance, teaching people how to work : "ok, so this is how you throw a shitty punch. this is how you throw a dropkick in the corner that look like it wouldn't hurt a fly." Yea, I know, it's supposed to be a bunch of bullshit anyway. Actually it adds up to the idea that WWE really isn't "wrestling" anymore. Have you noticed how the WWE superstars's intervention are totally useless ? I was expecting Big Show to chokeslam some of these guys...
  7. 1 - spitting blood is cool because it shows the guy really wants it 2 - girls are supposed to be exactly as strong as 200 pounds guys and should go through the *exact* same training 3 - WWE workers are all able to stand on the top rope and do squats. Ask HHH, he can do it for hours 4 - wrestlers work injured and that's the bizness. Ask HHH, he tore his quad once, and he keep on going. 5 - Bill Demott who did exactly nothing but be a JTTS on Nitro, and who got a slight push when there was nobody else on the roster and when his ring-name was Hugh G Rection, is a great trainer. 6 - Luke has accomplished exactly zilch but is already as annoying as Shawn Micheals in 1995. 7 - Booker T. has his head deep into HHH's ass (cf 3). 8 - Trish Stratus looks not a day under 40. 9 - Guys with short hairs are the best. 10 - I wish there was a camera in Verne Gagne's camp back in the mid-70's Man, this show is kinda fun for Austin's usually great promos at the end and Demott being a dick, but otherwise, what a bunch of bullshit. Were the other edition the same kind of nonsense ? Anyway, it's still the first weekly WWE programming I'm following since I stopped watching RAW 12 years ago. I guess Austin is a draw.
  8. Are you comparing a 1991 cartoon that aired for 4 months (from Wiki, I have obviously no idea what ProStars was) to the motherfucking Beatles ? That they don't know the Beatles ? They're ignorant young douches. That they don't know ProStars ? hum... probably nothing.
  9. Same thing happened with me in Nara, Japan. With Zidane. Now try to picture a japanese guy who speaks no french whatsoever trying to utter the very unfamiliar (for a japanese) sounding name "Zidane". I don't care about soccer, but that was still funny.
  10. Oh, they're all in the combat entertainment realm anyway...
  11. I agree with this. Granted, I'm not big into sports either, but still, I have no idea who Wayne Gretsky is. The only name of baseball players I know are the ones who have been mentionned during wrestling programs. Ditto any US football players. When I was in highschool, basketball and the NBA were super over, so I knew the names of the stars. But baseball, US football and ice hockey are pretty much non-entity for the mainstream european audiences. Now, I don't think UFC is big either, but to say Wayne Gretsky is a bigger star in Europe than Bret Hart, who was pretty damn known in the 90's, is probaly a mistake. I guess so too.
  12. edit...
  13. I actually just rewatched this for the first time in like ten years, and it's without a doubt a top 10 match I've ever seen. Just amazing. And I had forgotten about *the* bump, both masterfully built and absolutely insane. And everything is perfect, the match and the production (well minus that explosion which doesn't happen, but is covered masterfully by Kudo), the intros, the post-match with Onita, just everything. A masterpiece if there's one.
  14. Murakami. That's a shitty name of the past. Never got the appeal this guy seem to have at one point with the IWC.
  15. Nothing could have prevented the downward spiral of New Japan. The seeds were there when they were doing bumper business. Yeah, the downward spiral really began in 1997 with the first Sasake-to-the-top push I think. 1997 was the year of the disaster for puro anyway. But still, it really killed Hashimoto, and that was the dumbest move they could have made at this point. Of course they would do even worse in the following years.
  16. The matches sucked, Ogawa couldn't work a lick and it killed Hashimoto's aura. It really kicked off the downward spiral of New Japan in the 00's. That's what I remember abot those horrible matches.
  17. Who are you refering to ? Guys who say "It's supposed to be fake" are the ones who are right anyway. Unless you're refering to Lance Storm of course, which in that case, yes, is it annoying. No its suppose to look good. Whether its fake or not is a secondary concern. What ? So if you punch a guy in the nose to make it look good then it's good work ? I'm sorry but it's completely stupid. Taking care of your opponent is not a secondary concern. This is a shitty indy mentality from guys who have watched too many japanese tapes without understanding the style and think kicking a guy in the head full force is good work. You have to make it look good of course, but also take care of your opponent. Really, this reminds me the saying "In the old days it was fake but the audience thought we were killing each others, these days they kill each others for real but the audience know it's fake."
  18. Who are you refering to ? Guys who say "It's supposed to be fake" are the ones who are right anyway. Unless you're refering to Lance Storm of course, which in that case, yes, is it annoying.
  19. What were the reasons Kong left in the first place ? Stupid TNA....
  20. Chyna ? There's something admirable about Russo, because when you think you can't possibly sink lower, he still manages to find a way.
  21. Ok, I thought you meant he was also involved in the Summer of 98 for a short time too. To be perfectly honest, I felt it was hard to feel for Flair in a kayfaybe sense when Bischoff kissed his wife. Really, Flair is the guy who fucked a thousand women, kissed Liz and tried to take her away from Savage, then eventually did and spent Savage's money. And he was always talking about fucking his opponent woman in his promos. So really, Bischoff kissing his wife wasn't that much of a big deal to me. The heart-attack angle was brutal, but a few weeks later just before Bischoff did the job on Nitro it was revealed that Flair had actually been poisonned and never had a heart-attack. Yeah, it was kinda stupid but Bischoff did get his ass totally whipped at the end. So really, 1998 ended with a clear Flair victory and celebration, the kind of stuff they should have done with Sting in 1997. Well, of course, then it was followed by : So yeah, pretty bad.
  22. After watching the entire 1998 WCW seasons (well, Nitro, Thunders and PPV), I can attest that there were a lot of good suff. Everything involving Raven, everything involving Jericho, a 6 months stretch of good TV title feuds with Martel, Booker T, Finlay, Saturn, Benoit, lot of good stuff from DDP including the Goldberg and Giant match, good cruiserweight stuff at the end of the year with Kidman, Juvy, Rey, some really good Bret Hart matches after his heel turn (and some great promos, man, Bret was such a dickhead, this was one of the best surprise for me), Eddie & Chavo, some fun tag team titles matches with nWo Hollywood vs nWo Wolfpack, lots of random undercard goodness from Disco Inferno, Alex Wright, Ultimo Dragon, Psychosis, Marty Jannetty... Things were a little dull at the beginning of the year, got on faster tracks with the Spring. Most of the Summer was pretty poor though, and it felt like Sullivan was on his last leg. Loss said Dusty came on board at this point which explained the short Meng push (and I guess, Hacksaw Duggan on PPV). Then despite the horrific Warrior feud, without a doubt the worst thing in wrestling that year in any company, the Fall was pretty good with a few great Nitros. Then Nash took over and yes, it got worse quite fast, with some poor booking decisions from the get-go, more backstage vignettes showing up, and all of his friends getting titles and TV time (which in the case of Disco was allright with me, but Konnan getting the TV title was cringeworthy). Jumped off a cliff is a bit strong, it's not like when Russo took over, but things certainly headed in the wrong directions, but it really went nowhere fast in 99 quicker and deeped than by late 98. 1999 is on my hard-drive but I need a break from WCW.
  23. In the crowd? As awesome as that would have been, no. As Meltzer would say, really good face promo....
  24. Goldy just didn't need to lose to run Goldy vs nWo and Goldy vs Hogan II. The fact Goldberg was invincible was a whole part of his act, and as long as people weren't sick of seeing him always win, he needed to be kept unbeaten. The crowd popped at Starrcade, but more because they were thrilled to see something shocking rather than because they wanted Nash to be the champ. Nash got a terrible reaction on Nitro the next day. And Goldberg wasn't the same because he wasn't "unbeaten" anymore. He's been damaged, for good, and for nothing. Of course the Fingerpoke of Doom, an abortion in iself as it basically reset the cloc back to before Starrcade 97, was rendered even worse by the fact Mick Foley won the WWF title on RAW on a prerecorded show that got a huge rating boost thanks to the infamous Schiavone line "That will put asses in the seat...". In a matter of two weeks, WCW shot themselves in the mouth, twice. I think Hogan vs Flair did some good business after all this mess, but the Uncensored idiocy kinda killed the idea of purchasing a WCW PPV forever. But really, the Nash beats Goldy/Fingerpoke of Doom was a thing of beauty that killed the last golden goose of the company.
  25. That's one kind of a project. It's pretty much what you described. Well, finally ended my 1998 WCW watch, I got totally burned out by the end, and really, Nash's booking was bad from the get-go. And although I never cared for Goldberg myself, his loss to Nash, watched in context, is even worse and nonsensical than I remembered. People didn't want to see Nash beat Goldberg. And delivering the ultimate pay-off of Bischoff vs Flair on Notro following Starrcade was retarded. Of course the nadir would be reached on the first show on 1999, but really, Nash didn't bring anything interesting to the table as far as booking went. The product didn't feel fresher at all, and the PPV's were built as badly as they were during the last months of Sullivan's stint. But Sullivan still delivered some excellent Nitros during that time (despite having to deal with some godawful Warrior sequences). The one good new thing on the undercard during that time was Norman Smiley's small push, as he heeled up his game a bit. I love Norman Smiley. But man, they did ruin their only hope at making it big again by fucking up Goldy's streak, as hot as he was, you get the feeling he could have gone unbeaten until Starrcade 1999. And I doubt I'll do 1999 anytime soon. Gotta watch something different.
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