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I miss him as FIP in Shield six mans.
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WWE can spin but they're not blind, especially behind the scenes. I thought there was a chance the crowd would be pretty hot. But it wasn't the case. It was night and day. Same building. Considerable numbers. Both of them sell outs. HHH is going to make sure they don't turn a blind eye to it.
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How in the world did they book that? I thought the match was hugely fun whenever there were no suplexes or finishers happening (except for the corner Kimura and the last ride; that was awesome). It was all about the facial expressions. Taker's monster face after the sit up was one of my favorite Undertaker things ever.
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The company is overrun with the indy workers of the last seven years. It makes some sense that that style would overrun the promotion too. I thought they were doing a better job a few years ago of distilling that out of people in developmental. Now, they seem to be shooting for the same dollar from the ROH fans in Developmental. So who knows? I thought Cesaro looked amazing in that match from a physical/execution standpoint but they were definitely going a thousand miles an hour.
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I read an interview today where Nikki said that they started the Divas revolution with her sister and Steph's feud last year.
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I thought that they worked that Amell match as well as to "protect the industry" as possible. I also don't think that Amell was in quite the condition that we may have been led to believe, so in some ways that was smart. I think he was okay at taking shots, but didn't know how to sell to get the crowd engaged, though Neville tried his best on the apron. On paper, I think it was okay, very conservative. In execution, maybe it was too much so. I still had fun with it though. Uh, also, instead of this miz match, everyone should go check out Virus vs Dr. Cerebro from the chilanga mask card that JUST got uploaded. It's frigging awesome. That's the only other thing I've seen so far tonight.
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And then I thought she veered pretty heelish after that. Moreover, stuff like the endless stomps on the hand and the stairs shot and the trashtalking just goes over the line. I think she even mocked the Dusty polkadots before the match. You can have it both ways, but you kind of can't too.
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Even if they did it, it could've been slightly more begrudging. I think that there are ways to do it where Sasha would have come off more reluctant that would have made it both more acceptable and even more emotional.
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It was for show, a smokescreen to fool people into thinking he does it for his family, etc.
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I haven't had the chance to listen yet but I'm pretty much with you on this. It's almost never worth it just outright say "this is fake." I like the idea of just putting it on YouTube if they felt they had to do it in general.
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The difference between Owens being so single minded and Sasha doing the curtain call was striking to me.
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There's an element of time and investment here, Parv. Not just context but emotional connection that builds over time.
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The idea with Sasha falling off the ropes was that she got too cocky/showy in front of the big crowd when if she just stuck to something more fundamental she would have been fine and probably won the match? Is that a stretch of a reading there? I'm still a little iffy on those two bits of layout (though not necessarily execution - I just don't think Bayley should have been in the position to have to portray being unable to hold on to the bank statement seconds after her hand had been stomped on repeatedly in the first place. It's not on her), even on a rewatch. The flip side is that there's no match in a year and a half that's provided as emotional a moment and I'm not sure I've seen a better match this year. I've zero problem with the finish, btw. That sort of bump could believably pop Sasha back up in my mind and the CHARGING belly to belly just had so much oomph behind it as a moment.
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Someone point me to some Kana matches to watch.
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I could be high on Christian, but part of that is the wonky nature of my list.
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That's the thing. They can't say "Well, this is just 1000 loyal fans in Full Sail." It's going to be back to back nights filling the same Arena. Real curious to see how things come off.
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The brutal stomping on Bayley's hand during the Bank Statement was awesome, but it was really bad layout to follow that with the finisher stealing. She should have made it to the ropes and done almost anything else. Yes, she couldn't hold it, in part due to the hurt hand but I don't think that came across well enough in her work. Still, it was a great match, but whoever put that together screwed up that moment. (Also, the transition with Banks going off the ropes should have been clearer in causality). In general, I loved the match, though. The crowd tomorrow is going to be so interesting compared to tonight. They went nuts for Blue Pants, for the Tag finish, for Bayley. I wish Sasha would have been a bit more frustrated after losing the belt. I get why they did what they did and it was emotional, but it felt like a Curtain Call moment, especially after her entrance and the sheer amount of character she showed in the match. On the other hand, she sold the neck. Selling > hugs. Definitely a lack of kids in the crowd relative to Full Sail, which felt like a shame.
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What if Graves was just a matter of timing with the ESPN cameras filming for the E:60 special?
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I predict that we're all utterly pissed off at Parv for his lack of knowledge of the product by the end of the night.
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Judy Martin will make my currently entirely-non-Japanese-save-for-maybe-Saito list.
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Anyone going higher than me on Andre?
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I really liked Oates vs Funk. It's a bit of a hard match to explain, with a lot of an exhibition feel but one that got heated but never entirely lost control.
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Is it possible that WWE dumped Sting out of the tag match not because the Rowan injury but because he wanted to do Wizard World Chicago as it's a huge paydate for guys like him?
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The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
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Those online or from Black Terry Jr.? i think they're supposed to go up for free on Sunday.