Matt D

It was all over the end of the Cena vs Michaels Mania match.

I'm at a hotel for the fourth (and thus can't watch Brock or Harley/Andre) so I am only seeing glimpses of stuff here on my phone between toddler wrangling and trying to find food. Thanks for debunking quickly. Now someone tell me about Andre vs Harley. Phil started with a frigging Bull Ramos match

The internet told me that Nakamura and Okada had try outs

I'll make the general argument for Bock later (it's "He does everything Flair does just as well, and everything Flair doesn't do well far better."). Maybe months later.

I've watched something like 10 Misawa matches ever. I have no time now at all. My ballot will be just as ridiculous now, in March, or a year and a half from now. So there is that.

Bockwinkel

One of my thoughts why listening to this was that Luger obviously hadn't heard the Exile on Badstreet episodes dealing with 88 Crockett (which is a joke, but there was some dissonance there, I thought).

It's alright. I'm the first to admit that my method, or philosophy, or however you want to name how it is that I look at things, is innately flawed. A contextual approach needs a lot of evidence in order to bridge the gaps between sheer output and intent and understanding and execution and situational variance and whatever else. We never have enough to hit "truth." We never will. The best we can ever get is as educated a perception as possible. So then, exactly because of that, I am eager to jump on any new evidence/data we come across.

I think my post in the thread a few notches up would indicate that I am considering that, and even that I found it remarkable and worth noting. At the same time, it's very striking to me that it took Luger (one might even say "Luger, of all people!") getting him half way to the point for him to start tackling this stuff. If nothing else, I think there was a marked reluctance, almost bordering on frustration, that he had to adapt for a crowd like Philadelphia, when he'd much prefer to just be Ric Flair. Still, a preference to be intellectually lazy is different than an inability to be intellectual at all, and yes, I will keep that in mind moving forward, in both what I listen to and in what I watch.

Thank god that CBS only wants wrestling guest.

Lex took that so well and was so upbeat about it all. I lost it for the Kansas City lines.

I've never heard Ric talk so thoughtfully and meaningful about wrestling. Lex absolutely brought out the best in him in this podcast. I think he gets Flair better than Flair gets Flair, but he also helped Flair get to actual points of consideration about his own work in ways i've never heard him get to before. I'm about 40 mins in but it's a must listen.

Quick takeaways: Tunney takes the midgets seriously as he's setting up a title match with that result. Martel ended up looking like a massive worldbeater given how you did that. Did Bret tap out or pass out? I'm disappointed that the cup wasn't destroyed.

I vote for Bruce Tharpe.

You did say it first. That's why it's funny.

Can Johnny do a podcast with the History of WWE guy so he can call him Billystar SuperGraham the whole time and then not explain it.

He'll let us see it in 2021

How do you feel about salt throwing?

Didn't David Crockett say in the Flair interview that all the old guard NWA guys disliked Jim, Jr. and that it had been Crockett, Sr.'s son in law that had been the one to go along with the old man to the convention for years before he croaked?

I went just far enough to decide that people who thought he was in the the worst of all time discussion were pretty much idiots. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/29870-honky-tonk-man/

I'm rolling with idiot savant these days.

Sorry Matt. It was so long ago I forgot who suggested it. It was a real fun experience of a match. It's ok. I was just messing with you. I'm glad you had fun with it.

Everyone needs to see the promo, btw. The match is on youtube.

You can sort of have your cake and eat it too when it comes to Gordy.