Matt D

I think it is Johnny Sorrow's turn

That Riverwalk bunk wouldn't play on Broadway, my boy.

The one thing I regret is not spreading the Ben Bassarab/Bobby Bass angle around earlier because I knew Dylan wanted Bassarab

You showed no sign of needing or heeding my advice. The only thing keeping you from being the Red Rooster and goc being the Brooklyn Brawler is that I've shown restraint in giving him any actually useful insider info. Not even on Parv (thus the Anderson quartet was not broken). Though if I gave away goc's next pick, he'd be more likely to take who I want him to instead.

They would be better if they were the Young Bocks

I'm just suggesting scummy third rate tag teams to people.

I can picture a post apocalyptic wasteland years from now with no internet where goc is still writing down Sunshine storylines on the ground in his own blood.

I'm curious who you're going to run as tag teams.

Which is in part why I think people should fully appreciate what people bring to the table here.

Don't you worry, Beast. If you want Tom Zenk that bad he debuts early in 84. (to be fair I've been pushing everyone to get a different Samoan for a while)

Granted, this is 13 years later, but it's a match people should probably see if they're unfamiliar with him.

I imagine Valentine is.

Has anyone seen 83 Mike Shaw footage?

There's a Uso without a partner right now who could be biding time down there to add a little bit of star power.

Curse you and your superior historical knowledge. Speaking of that, did Humperdink ever work Memphis?

Mosca is definitely as credible as let's say an Ivan Putski depending on what region you're in. You should still have to take his kid too though.

I pulled this from the 84: Year of Transition thing a couple of weeks ago.

If you draft Mosca, you should have to take on his son too.

You should have had more fun with that pick.

We live in a country where the most talked about/analyzed/broken down/obsessed over things are football and a TV show which has a kid being immolated so that a fire priestess can birth a shadow monster. Those are not just perfectly acceptable things to talk about and analyze and really obsess over, but if you don't, you're considered odd. NASCAR is up there. Golf is up there. For a while Survivor and American Idol were. We could have just as easily ended up in a world where ice dancing became the big thing. I don't want wrestling to be mainstream. I don't want it to be sport. I don't care if it's art. What I'm arguing instead is that there's no difference between having an obsessed argument about who should be in the MLB hall of fame or who should go in the NFL draft or The Bachelor or Breaking Bad or whatever. It's all a diversion from reality and whatever meaning it has comes from what we install into it through our discussions. That you brought up boy bands was a ridiculous comparison because that goes back to the mainstream argument, and frankly, I don't care. What the rest of society thinks has no bearing on what we do, nor should it. I care about the opinions of the people whose opinions I care about here. Going "Well, sure, let's talk about this, but aren't we nuts!" doesn't help anyone. It's pointlessly dismissive and we deserve better than that.

Goc's picks can be explained by not sleeping in days

I can see goc and I holding up things needlessly but Grimmas is too much the gentleman for that.

Frankly, I don't really care what wrestling is so long as we can break it apart and figure out what makes it tick and have fun doing it. John, when you say "We're all just weirdos on a message board who think about this far more than the actual people doing it and they'd just look at us strange if we talked to them using these terms and we're only doing this to feel better about this inconsequential thing that we value." and I think you do that lovingly, and even including yourself in that "we."... That's the absolute worst. The worst. Perspective is good. But we have a damn good idea of what we're doing and if we didn't enjoy doing it, we wouldn't be doing it. If we didn't think it was worth doing and worth doing with one another, we wouldn't be doing it. I can't think of almost any posts on this board that I find useless, including Johnny just marking out over something or OJ shitting on something he hasn't seen or whatever. Every bit of it adds to the whole, even some of the semantic arguments you and Parv have. Every single post is worth something and makes this place more than what it would be, save for you trying to knock down a peg and belittle what we do. The thought that people here put into things, the research that people like Kris and Kelly do, the footage gathering and deep dives that Parv does, the attempts at understanding that some of the younger people like Marty or Stacey bring to the table. It's a hell of a place, and I don't care if there were other "hell of a places" twenty years ago. We make what we do more than what it is because of who we are and the effort and thought we put into it. Stop taking that for granted.

I'm so sick of Great Art Theory

I guess I can't be president?