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Rock should be in a big ten man tag. Best way to make it seem special but not so special as to tarnish the Mania match.

I will say this: Sherri wasn't a woman. She was a force of nature. And also a witch. She was tossing magic all over the place around Sumerslam with Zeus. Warrior was way worse to her too. He was trying to murder her.

That's the thing, though. The people who went to the school. WWF was inclusive. If you were a WWF Fan, that was enough. That was like going to the school. Then the bully was on your side. As for Stone Cold, there are plenty of examples of him being a bully and stunnering people that didn't deserve it. Stunnering HHH or The Big Show isn't bullying. Stunnering Holly every week for a year and stealing his beer money is bullying. The notion that the WWF/WWE is like a school where everyone roots for everyone on the team is nonsensical. Hogan vs Savage in MSG in early 1986. They're both on the WWF "team". So were the fans rooting for both? Savage-Steamer at Mania the next year. Both on the WWF Team. Fans rooting for both? Were the rooting for the clear bully in it (Savage)? Folks don't root for true bullies. They think they're cocksuckers. John The fans root for the babyfaces. The babyfaces are on your team. The heels are on the other team. At least in 80s WWF. I don't think that's a crazy notion. And as for Austin, I was thinking Stacy

That's the thing, though. The people who went to the school. WWF was inclusive. If you were a WWF Fan, that was enough. That was like going to the school. Then the bully was on your side. As for Stone Cold, there are plenty of examples of him being a bully and stunnering people that didn't deserve it.

I feel like Tracy Smothers has to be having amazing matches right now, but I'm just not fortunate enough to see them.

No way. Everyone loves an asshole bully that it's socially acceptable to root for.

People like bullies.

They worked SO SO hard not to have Cena do anything bad last year. They went out of their way to prevent him from FUing Orton even when Barrett ordered him to. It was amazing.

I think it's an effective promo. It just goes against my personal sensibilities and love of heel Young Pistol Tracy.

I can't even begin to tell you how much I loathe this interview. "Things got right out of hand thar. I'm mighty sorry for being so goldurned awesome in WCW at the end. hayuck."

he enjoyed beating up the genius way too much

Why the hell doesn't Bigelow get to celebrate in the ring with Hogan at the end of Survivor Series?

I really don't know much about St. Louis. I should just read that book.

I wonder what fun summer angle they screw up next year.

Most of us are veterans of fighting King Hippo.

Was the draw between Rotunda and Flair from 1/84 taped?

So Harley Race, on one of his shoots, talked about how in Kansas City(I think), in the 60s, they used to wrestle in front of posh attendees who were eating expensive dinners. I find that whole thing concept sort of fascinating. Is there any place I can learn more about all that?

I do completely buy the APW stuff being a breath of fresh air. I don't think that people really liking their stuff (and even the Nitro match and what they were TRYING to do) at that time is illogical or doesn't make sense.

I learned how to watch wrestling sitting on the scaly, creepy online knees of the DVDVR. I remember this stuff... sort of. Movez, action, and stiffness meant a hell of a lot more than they do now.

The workrate reports are only archived to the start of the the Russo stuff right?

I could buy Spike as a giantkiller because his finisher was hit out of nowhere and could theoretically knock a guy out. I buy the Giant squashing Loch Ness because The Giant is huge too. I don't think this happens in unbelievable ways all that much. Even on WCW SN, Roadblock would always be a tough opponent for a bigger name (that happened to be smalleR).

I had forgotten Hyatte too, to be honest, and I'm pretty sure I read his stuff just about every week when I was 17. But my main point is that 1) there was a pretty solid hive mind back then 2) It was very excited about the Modest vs Daniels match before it happened and 3) it tried to spin it as a positive after the fact, certainly enough so that Wade got pissed off about it. There are a ton of distinct wrestling memories I have from back then. Getting frustrated by the lack of acknowledgment of Benoit's TV title wins. Being EXCITED for Russo and Ferrara going to WCW because from what little we knew at that point, it seemed exciting for a guy who was primarily a WCW fan surrounded at college by people who were primarily wwf fans. The first time I saw the .rm file of the SAT/Red vs Brian XL/Devine Storm

I remember everyone being REALLY excited about the fact that match was going to even happen before hand, though, like it was going to change wrestling, and then afterward, we were an internet full of apologists. I didn't search for long. but this sums ups all sorts of viewpoints from them time. and hey, Hyatte. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/...-Suck:--Reason-

I want them to make an episode of Leverage about Ric Flair. I'm going to try to forward that article to John Rogers.

Didn't we all really like Daniels in 98 or so? I don't think he changed. I think we did and I think wrestling did.