Loss Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 BRIAN PILLMAN'S HAIR. This is half really good, half really strange. Pillman talks about his history of throat operations and explains his football background, which is good. This is also about remaking Flyin' Brian as California Brian, which is strange. He talks about his guest spot on Baywatch and how he has gained strength from seeing how Californians have responded to floods, which is why he has the new name. He also talks about winning the cruiserweight title tournament. Whaaaaa? That belt didn't debut until 1996, but there was an on-screen graphic for it and everything. Someone has to explain this to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Some fascinating stuff I wasn't aware of happened in 1995 I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 They were hyping up the Cruiserweight title tournament for a long time before it happened. At least a year, but I didn't know it was this early. I was searching a while back for match footage of Pillman as California Brian but never found any. Did he ever actually use the Baywatch Brian name? He was back to Flyin' Brian by April at the latest. Re: his hair, is this when he had the curly hair on top with the long straight extensions in back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 He also talks about winning the cruiserweight title tournament. Whaaaaa? That belt didn't debut until 1996, but there was an on-screen graphic for it and everything. Someone has to explain this to me. Pillman won the WCW light heavy weight title tournament in 91 and the belt got abandoned in 92. Entirely diffrent then the Cruiserweight title but some whear along the way they retroactively combined to two lineages into 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 No, they were talking about an upcoming cruiserweight title tournament that Pillman wanted to win. The tournament didn't take place until early 1996. Did it get pushed back or what? I'm just curious the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I looked through the Torch archives but since they're barely searchable, it was hard to find much info. I do see that they were hyping the division as early as November '94, and that early plans called for it to include Koko B. Ware and Tito Santana, who would have been the "AAA representative." Also they wanted Sabu for the division but he only wanted to wrestle as a heavyweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 From looking up what little info I could find the entire thing seems to have been a horrible mess with the Ohtani/Benoit match to crown the champ happening before the tournament took place on WCW tv, the tournament itself having no brackets or rules or set amount of competitors with matches hapening at random, and Ohtani losing the belt to Malenko days before they finally got around to announcing he'd won it to begin with. Do have to say though, that watching at the time, having no internet and knowing nothing of the backstage stuff/international results or things being taped ahead it didn't come across as bad as it reads atleast. Honestly my only memories of it are a few of the matches they promoted being a part of it and being 99% sure that Johnny B Badd was either in the tournament or hyped as being in the tournament shortly before he left for WWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Yeah I remember reading in Powerslam (which probably got the info from the Observer or the Torch) that WCW wanted to re-establish a Light heavyweight/Cruiserweight division as late back as late 1994. In fact it kind of became a running joke in that mag over the next year as each month was supposed to be the start of the tournament and it never got going. Kind of weird looking back on it now as the only people WCW had at the time were Pillman and Wright. And although they had the talent agreement with New Japan and had promoted the WWC PPV, which means that Bischoff had to be aware of Eddy, Benoit, Malenko and Rey. It still took him a year to 18 months to bring them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Weird seeing Pillman like this and months later he turned into the Loose Cannon. I also didn't know Pillman actually played in regular games in the NFL. I thought he was just on the practice squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 This guy has been around for nearly 6 years, busting his ass, regularly being one of their best worker, and here he is in a goofy vignette talking about his football days like he's a newcomer. Feel the frustration building, no wonder the guy snapped. But the most striking stuff here are : THE HAIR !!! WHAT THE FUCK ??? Übermullet from hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Oh my God. Curls on top, straight hair in the back down past the shoulders. Still, with Pillman having been in total limbo for a full 12 months it's good to see him back doing something...anything. Pillman talks about his football career, complete with footage from Miami game action and Bengals practice. Then talk about his throat operations, a mere 4 and a half years after the right time to drop that little nugget. More talk about the Blonds split, which should NOT be talked about at this point. I'm a fan of invoking history both recent and past, but the Blonds needed to be dead and buried at this point. Pillman plugs the "hottest show on TV today," Baywatch! Maybe the next-hottest after Thunder in Paradise. Not all of this makes a great deal of sense, to put it mildly, but as I said I'm happy that they have any plans at all for Pillman. And yeah, the new Cruiserweight title was teased FOREVER, between TV hype and talk in the sheets, though the fact that it went even this far back surprises me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Going through old WONs, has the cruiserweight title mentioned prior to Starrcade 94, then a "it got pushed back" update up to at least May. They wanted Jerry Estrada, Latin Lover and Otani in it and asked ECW to loan them Malenko, Sabu, and 2 Cold. Bischoff didn't want Eddy. Hogan apparently wanted Koko B Ware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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