Tarzan Goto

[Dylan Waco]

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[El-P]

Das worker from early FMW days. A more solid base than pretty much everyone there, training with AJPW will do that to you. Although the first exploding deathmatches with Onita were experiments and the formula developped later, Goto brought a good amount of actual wrestling in those. Always fun to watch to me, would have had much more chances to deliver good matches if he didn't end up in the lower end of the Japanese indie-sleaze after the mid 90's. Got fat and more selfish with times too, but damn, he was like an angrier Kodo Fuyuki, or a sleazy-ass Tenryu. The IWA title match with Foley is easily Foley's best japanese match, the Bathhouses deathmatches are the most ridiculous and fun oddity I've ever seen, and Goto is godlike in those. I basically would have loved to see him come back in FMW in 97 or so, or work with WAR instead.

[Graham Crackers]

I love Goto. Not sure if he has enough meat to make my ballot but I guess it's possible. That wild tag from 1990 is possibly my favorite FMW match. You know, the one with Dragonmaster and Kurisu wildly throwing chairs around trying to kill Goto and Onita, ending with Onita weeping and calling out Goto's name. He's also the best worker in the 12/12/93 Mpro vs FMW tag which is so demented and sleazy and wonderful.

[Dylan Waco]

Watched a bunch of stuff the other day and he holds up well. I think the Tenryu comparison is actually pretty apt, as he has that shitkicker aura/charisma that can make a middling match good, or a good match great. I love the early explosion match with Onita, though I thought Onita outworked him in it. That said he looked awesome teaming with Onita against Karate fighters, v. Foley, v. Severn, v. Tenryu, et. Really he worked against a very wide variety of guys and typically had good matches against them, which is something I consider especially impressive given the common "rep" of him as just another death match guy (albeit a good one).

[pol]

Been watching a bunch of FMW stuff with the intention of looking into Onita but this guy has impressed me more. Just absolute killer offense. Good sense of timing with hope spots and cut offs, plus some great transitions. His 1995 match with Cactus could've been MOTY in many years (although a large part of that is Foley being insane). Carried useless Mr. Pogo to a legitimately very good match. I think the biggest criticism I'd have from what I've seen so far is that he can eat his opponents up when he'd elicit a bigger reaction from a more Onita-style 'sell a bunch and come back' approach, but his offense is so fun to watch that it's hard to fault him too much for it, especially when he's working against limited opposition.

[JerryvonKramer]

Another guy I really want to find the room for. Disappointed by lack of discussion for him. Again, I feel that if his career had taken place in, let's say ECW, he might have a bit more buzz about him.

[Dylan Waco]

I agree that he's underrated, but not sure about the ECW line. Not many of the top ECW wrestlers will do well. Possibly no more than 1 or 2.

[Jetlag]

I am doing a Tarzan Goto project on the blog:

https://reverseviperhold.blogspot.com/2021/03/tarzan-goto-documentation-project.html

I will predict he will end up coming out with a damn high number of EPIC ranked matches. He was running wild on the Japanese indy scene having great bloodbaths everywhere, and many of his matches weren't even aired. He is also really great when he is doing some actual wrestling, but his prized role is still fat grotesque psycho butchering people in really entertaining ways.

[Jetlag]

Tarzan Gotos work in his own promotion, Goto-Ippah, is absolutely insane. From the early 2000s onwards he was running shows at his restaurant - a concept itself that rules - in front of tiny crowds of maybe 70-100 people at most. And he is absolutely working his ass off on these shows. Not just "eh, he's being a cool guy doing some fun things in these matches", seriously, Goto-Ippah Tarzan Goto is arguably the most ambitious an aging fat guy wrestler has ever been. He's working honest to god 30+ minute epics with Kings Road style complex layout, and he's doing it all in those matches. Working the mat, throwing great worked punches, beating the fuck out of people, putting his opponents (usually tiny GUTS World-tier schmucks) over and always, ALWAYS cutting somebody up. God, has there ever been a more blood thirsty wrestler than Goto? Sometimes he'll bleed himself, and while he's usually working overdog (no shit, he's facing the lowest of the low), he always bumps for his opponents too and makes you respect them. Really fascinating stuff that only a handful of people have ever seen (the guy selling the discs to me made it sound as if somebody at Samurai TV is at risk of losing their job if they get in wider circulation). I know I may sound like I'm telling some carny tale here but it's true, and I wanna say Goto looks world class as late as 2009 and ruled at doing it all.

[Clayton Jones]

Well that's absolutely fascinating and bizarre as fuck.

[elliott]

Nevermind

[Jetlag]

I'm not saying its the best ever, but it's really good stuff and it adds a ton to Gotos case. And I'm not the only one who's allowed to see this, I just happen to know a guy, who knows a guy, if you have bought tapes from a few different people then you probably know said guy too, and the condition of selling and buying tapes is that they cannot be shared widely because that is the condition under which they were obtained in the first place otherwise the people in Japan who gave out the footage in the first place might stop giving out more footage and we don't want that. I wouldn't be surprised if Goto ends up cruising into my Top 20, so I'm just putting the disclaimer there in case folks get surprised by how high I'm placing him. I mean, it's the equivalent of discovering someone like Barry Windham working epic 30 minute matches against local yokels in a tiny indy company in the early 2000s, and Barry Windham selling you those tapes but also threatening to cut out your kidney if you put them on YouTube. Last time the rule was that if you saw someone wrestling you can rank them based on that even if there's no footage, so I'm guessing the same applies to footage you can only get from certain tape traders. I mean, there was that Robin Hood/Shu el Guerrero apuestas match that only one person was ever allowed to see, too.

FWIW here's the Goto results page with match times:

http://fmwwrestling.us/GotoResults.html?

[Jetlag]

1.    What kind of candidate is this wrestler (Peak vs Longevity,Peak+ Longevity, Big Match Wrestler, Week to Week Performer etc) and what range would you consider ranking them?

I would say he is a case of a guy with both a case of insane peaks and insane longevity. You can find peak level performances as early as 1989, and as late as 2007 or even 2009, and plenty in the middle. Week to week he looks consistently solid in random house show and TV matches, with some insanely good handheld performance that were never meant to be released.

2.       What is your elevator pitch for this wrestler to be a Top 100 Wrestler? (Sum up their case in a short paragraph).

He's a guy who has everything I want in a pro wrestler. Can work lengthy technical epics and also violent graphic blood baths. Insane number of great matches throughout 3 decades in a variety of promotions, against opponents ranging from the top of the industry to borderline untrained indy scum.

3.        Were they ever the best wrestler in the world? Were they ever the best wrestler in their country? Were they ever the best wrestler in their promotion? Who were some of their competitors for the best wrestler in the world, country, and promotion?

He was probably never the best worker in the world or in his country from 1989-2000 due to insanely steep competition in the industry, but he was consistently among the best, especially in 1989, 1990, 1997, 1998. I suspect the main  reason he fell out of the picture in the early 2000s is lack of footage as he basically retired to his own promotion Goto-Ippa of which footage is very hard to come by. He might have been the best wrestler in the world in 2007 based on 4 or so matches that he had on tape then, he was incredible then. He was definitely always the best guy in the promotion when he worked deathmatch indies like IWA Japan or Big Japan, he probably was the overall best guy in WYF in 1997 too despite only working a few matches. When he worked WAR in 1997 he was second best to only Tenryu who worked more matches. He was a consistent contender for being the top worker in FMW along with Kurisu in 1990 and Onita who got all the big spectacle matches. If I had to book an ideal wrestling promotion I imagine he'd be the top heel.

4.       How many years were they a top worker (top worker being a candidate for top 10 wrestler in the world)? Who were some of the other top workers of this era?

I'd say he was absolute top for at minimum years see the years mentioned above. I've yet to fully dive into his 1991-1995 work but he has some fantastic matches in that period that I've seen. In those years I would only put him below absolute legends (El Dandy, Tamura, Tenryu, etc)

5.       Were they a great worker before their prime? Were they a great worker after their prime? How great were they (were they a best in the world, country, promotion candidate while before their prime/after their prime)

Considering he has prime level work in 1989 and 2007 there's only very few glimpses outside that. From what I've seen he was at minimum a fun worker. He still looked great carrying an untrained girl in 2009.

6.       Did they have the opportunities to produce a large body of excellent matches?

Yes, since he worked FMW, a promotion that had a ton of big shows that got filmed although often in a handheld format. He was also consistently a main program worker when he made appearances in other promotions, usually as an outsider heel.
IF YES
6a Do they have a large body of excellent matches?

Yes, I've already written up over a dozen of his excellent matches and I'm nowhere near done.

6b Do they have a large body of excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

His opponents range from Japans top stars, to martial artists with little pro wrestling experience, to foreign brawlers and even luchadores, to sleazy indy undercarders, to borderline untrained girl wrestlers, and he has looked consistently excellent working with all of them. To be far it's not an insane variety for a Japanese indy guy since back then nearly everyone had to face a karateka at some point, but it's a huge variety compared to pretty much all non-Japanese contenders.

6c Do they have a large body of excellent matches in a variety of settings? (for example singles, tags, gimmicks, no gimmicks, brawls, technical, short matches, long matches etc)

Yes. I'd say much of his body of work is in tags due to booking circumstances but he has a number of top tier singles matches. Usually all his matches involve brawling, weapons and blood, but he also has matches where he does lots of technical work for extended time periods, and he looks great doing it.

6d How much of those excellent matches were a direct result of their performance?

Pretty much all of them. I can't recall a single instance where I thought he was carried or didn't add a significant amount to a match. Pretty much all of his best matches I can't imagine with someone else slotted in his role. Especially his heel performances in southern tags. No one else did bloodthirsty heel stuff on his level.

IF NO

7.        Do they have a large body of excellent performances in a variety of roles (heel/face, undercard/midcard/main event, champion/challenger, underdog/favorite, younger/older etc)

I answered the previous question with yes, but I will answer this one too. The matches where he works underdog are few and far between, mostly in 1989 and 1990, but he looks great in them. Other than that he almost always works heel overdog, probably because you can't have a massive guy who cuts people up be the underdog. He does look great working rivals with Onita, too. He is pretty old in 2007 but he doesn't really acknowledge it, although his ranking/status plays a role in the matches.

8.        Do they work in a way that is consistent with the way they're booked & presented?

Yes. There's few people as consistant and recognizable as Tarzan Goto. I buy into him being a bloodthirsty psycho a 100%. He is also totally credible as a technically proficient veteran due to his AJPW background and being the FMW Dojo trainer.

9.        What are their standout traits? (For example, selling, psychology, offense, character work etc)

Excellent psychology in southern tags, wild brawls and slugfests, longer technical (but still violent) epics with complex structure, outsider heel invading a promotion, his character as being a bloodthirsty psycho who breaks beer bottles and cuts people up... admittedly he doesn't have many legendary selling performances due to working overdog a lot, but he looks great taking beatings opposite guys like Onita, Kurisu, and various karatekas.

10.   Did they make the people and workers around them better?

Yes, absolutely. I consider him Onitas best opponent, and a great rival to the likes of Tenryu. There's a litany of guys who don't have great resumes who owe their career matches to him, ranging from guys like Hisakatsu Oya, to Battle Ranger, to Masayoshi Motegi, to fucking Leon Spinks and some near untrained girl wrestler called Lemon. He's had great matches with indy scum guys I'd never consider to watch otherwise.

11.   Is there any reason to believe that this wrestler was better or worse than they appeared?

Better, because he could've been given a lot more main event time and singles matches in FMW, but was usually relegated to working undercard brawls. Worse, because he was often in a position to look (working as a threatening heel to the top guys in each company he appeared in). Most of his best performances appear in promotions where he had some influence (FMW, Shin-FMW, Goto-Ippah) so he could put himself in a position to look good, but he also looks great in promotions where he's an outsider.

12.   If you had to pick 5-10 matches (Or more) to sell someone on this wrestler what would they be? (Not necessarily the best matches but ones that are best representative of the wrestlers’ GWE case).

w Atsushi Onita vs. Jerry Flynn & Mitsuhiro Matsunaga, FMW 12/10/1989

vs. Atsushi Onita, FMW 2/26/1991

vs. Hisakatsu Oya, FMW 8/28/1994

w Mr. Gannosuke vs. Kendo Nagasaki & Bruiser Okamoto, BJW 7/25/1995

vs. Dan Severn, IWA Japan 8/20/1995

w Ryo Miyake vs. Masayoshi Motegi & Shinichi Nakano, WYF 7/16/1997

w Masashi Aoyagi & Azteca vs. Dick Togo & Shoichi Funaki & MENs Teioh, Indy World 7/22/1998

w Mr. Gannosuke vs. Soldier & Mineo Fujita, WMF 9/5/2005

13.   Feel free to recommend more matches here if you like!

My guide to Tarzan Goto (still a work in progress):

https://reverseviperhold.blogspot.com/2021/03/tarzan-goto-documentation-project.html

14.   Any final thoughts you’d like to share?

Best bloodthirsty heel brawler in wrestling history, with surprising technical skills. Will be very high on my ballot. Also a lot of his matches are extremely rare to find but worth seeking out.

[elliott]

Fantastic! Great stuff! Goto is someone who always rules. Probably my favorite Onita opponent. Definitely someone to dig your teeth into. 

[club]

In the course of checking out other people’s matches, Tarzan Goto has cropped up a fair bit. In the process he’s gone from a guy I considered a Japanese Balls Mahoney (not a good thing) to someone whose matches I actively seek out. I could honestly see him landing higher than Onita depending on what indy gems are out there.

 

Many thanks to Jetlag for their list of recs. I’d add:

w. Mr Gannosuke vs Gedo & Jado 7/7/95

Vs Matsunaga 12/4/89

[Jetlag]

@itako18jp have also started selling various never before seen indy footage on Twitter and Goto is another guy who benefits massively as they have released a couple gems involving him, including one match that goes 30+ minutes and is really great. One of those matches makes Tarzan Goto another wrestler who has had great matches in 4 decades.

[club]

On 4/18/2024 at 9:17 AM, Jetlag said:

@itako18jp have also started selling various never before seen indy footage on Twitter and Goto is another guy who benefits massively as they have released a couple gems involving him, including one match that goes 30+ minutes and is really great. One of those matches makes Tarzan Goto another wrestler who has had great matches in 4 decades.

Finally a reason to get on Twitter.

[shiek75]

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On 4/18/2024 at 10:17 AM, Jetlag said:

@itako18jp have also started selling various never before seen indy footage on Twitter and Goto is another guy who benefits massively as they have released a couple gems involving him, including one match that goes 30+ minutes and is really great. One of those matches makes Tarzan Goto another wrestler who has had great matches in 4 decades.

sounds awesome. can you give more info about that .or how to obtain that footage . thanks 

[Jetlag]

11 hours ago, shiek75 said:

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sounds awesome. can you give more info about that .or how to obtain that footage . thanks 

You have to make a Twitter account and DM them. They will send you a PayPal bill at the end of each month.

[shiek75]

On 5/31/2024 at 9:06 AM, Jetlag said:

You have to make a Twitter account and DM them. They will send you a PayPal bill at the end of each month.

thanks for the info.  pm sent

[Jom]

Goto's currently sitting at #5 on my list, and I imagine I'll be the high voter for him by a wide margin, but he's genuinely my favorite wrestler ever. Badass underdog brawler from his return to wrestling in FMW to mid-1992, where he starts to really embrace being a heel and slowly builds up his resume as the best ghoul of 1990s Japan. As Jetlag stated a while back, Goto continues to be great into his Goto Ippa days, where he spends most of his time putting his trainees through hellish 20+ minute main events where he mauls them and forces them to find a way to get a comeback rolling. I think there are some fair things to point out as negatives for the Goto case (a lack of varied performances from the late 90s onwards, a propensity for BS fouling, etc), but I think even that generally depends on perspective because I love those parts of Goto. There's an argument to be made that he's a flat-out great worker from 1989 all the way to his last match ever in 2018, even if we only have a third of that match in clipped form. We at least have one of his Super FMW scum tags from 2013 and he's a complete monster there. I do wonder how being able to watch more of his 80s work would have an effect on his placement, but I imagine it's more of a Kurisu situation where he's a serviceable midcarder until he's unshackled in FMW (the few bits of territory heel Goto we have a pretty dang fun too). I hope to see more people voting for him this go-around, as he really deserves it.

[TheBean]

48 minutes ago, Jom said:

Goto's currently sitting at #5 on my list, and I imagine I'll be the high voter for him by a wide margin, but he's genuinely my favorite wrestler ever. Badass underdog brawler from his return to wrestling in FMW to mid-1992, where he starts to really embrace being a heel and slowly builds up his resume as the best ghoul of 1990s Japan. As Jetlag stated a while back, Goto continues to be great into his Goto Ippa days, where he spends most of his time putting his trainees through hellish 20+ minute main events where he mauls them and forces them to find a way to get a comeback rolling. I think there are some fair things to point out as negatives for the Goto case (a lack of varied performances from the late 90s onwards, a propensity for BS fouling, etc), but I think even that generally depends on perspective because I love those parts of Goto. There's an argument to be made that he's a flat-out great worker from 1989 all the way to his last match ever in 2018, even if we only have a third of that match in clipped form. We at least have one of his Super FMW scum tags from 2013 and he's a complete monster there. I do wonder how being able to watch more of his 80s work would have an effect on his placement, but I imagine it's more of a Kurisu situation where he's a serviceable midcarder until he's unshackled in FMW (the few bits of territory heel Goto we have a pretty dang fun too). I hope to see more people voting for him this go-around, as he really deserves it.

Have you seen Mighty Inoue/Tarzan Goto vs Kuniaki Kobayashi/Norio Honaga (07/28/85) in All Japan? That's a really good all action match. I wouldn't say he's the Goto we know and love yet but, I was happy to see it.

[Jom]

I have! I remember it being fun stuff where Kobayashi and Inoue shined the most, but Goto did get to show good energy and pulled off some awesome headbutts (this is a good summary of most of the Tarzan Goto AJPW matches we have).

[TheBean]

Cool! yeah the other ones I remember from '85 were a Road Warriors squash and a joined in progress 6 man when he's on the same team as Tiger Mask Misawa but Goto gets in a beefy power slam & backdrop suplex. Definitely hope more quality mid 80's Tarzan Goto sees the light of day someday

 

[HeadCheese]

Tarzan Goto is someone I'm considering, I like him but,  I'm not sure if I like him that much (he might make it still). Based on limited watching of him (over the past year I've watched 14 of his matches and aiming for 20 or 25 before having a big take).

He is someone who I like fighting up against opponents, fighting with someone at his level, or a style clsdh (vs. Dan Severn) but, not sure how to feel about his perfomances as an overdog (yet).

Watched Tarzan Goto vs. Mitsuhiro Matsunaga last year, it's amazing! Was the top match of its type on my GME list last year.

 

Memphis Tarzan Goto seems interesting  too, I really like him in this 10 man tag from  3/14/1987 . Jarrett vs. Goto interactions!!

Jeff Jarrett, Alan West, JT Southern, Paul Diamond & Mark Starr vs. Shima, Tarzan Goto, Tojo Yamamoto, The Hunter & Boy Tony

Not sure if it's a case helper but the Tarzan Goto & Mr Gannosuke vs The Headhunters bathhouse match is super fun, heads up there is nudity from the people visiting the bathhouse (not the wrestlers) though.