Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 We are a year out at this point, so I thought it was time to start looking at some categories and ranking those. I thought we'd start with the Texans.We have some prominent Texans here (Pete & Will at the least). I've always been a fan of the cowboy gimmick. From first seeing Ron Bass to being into Terry Funk, Stan Hansen, etc.. At this point, how do you rank them? Note: I included all the West Texas State guys and anyone who felt like a Texas guy (Dutch Mantell?) and a few Texans were left off because they didn't seem to fit (ie Eddie Guerrero). Nominees at this point: Barry Windham Bob Orton Jr. Bruiser Brody Dick Murdoch Dory Funk jr. Dustin Rhodes Dusty Rhodes Dutch Mantell James Storm Kerry Von Erich Kevin Von Erich Mark Henry Stan Hansen Steve Austin Ted DiBiase Terry Funk Tito Santana Tully Blanchard I may had missed some, but this is a great list. It could contain the battle of number one (Hansen vs Funk). What do you have and what are you thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 This is a great list although Dutch is a Tennessee guy. He spent too much time in Memphis, SMW, and Tennessee indies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 This is a great list although Dutch is a Tennessee guy. He spent too much time in Memphis, SMW, and Tennessee indies. He worse a cowboy hat, poncho and had a cow whip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 At this point in time I would go with this ranking: 1. Stan Hansen 2. Terry Funk 3. Dustin Rhodes 4. Barry Windham 5. Steve Austin 6. Tully Blanchard 7. Tito Santana 8. Ted DiBiase 9. Mark Henry 10. Dick Murdoch 11. Kerry Von Erich 12. Dutch Mantell 13. Dory Funk jr. 14. Dusty Rhodes 15. Kevin Von Erich 16. James Storm 17. Bob Orton Jr. 18. Bruiser Brody Obviously things are subject to change. I really need to watch some Dory, for example. However Hansen vs Funk is a struggle. They might be my 1-2. I will watch a lot more of them, it's a hard call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Could you add Bill Watts to the list maybe? His nickname was "The Cowboy". 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Ted DiBiase 4. Dory Funk Jr. 5. Barry Windham 6. Tully Blanchard 7. Dick Murdoch 8. Dustin Rhodes 9. Bob Orton Jr (based solely on "whenenver I've seen him pop up") 10. Kerry von Erich 11. Steven Austin 12. Dusty Rhodes 13. Tito Santana 14. Dutch Mantell 15. Mark Henry 16. Bruiser Brody Kevin Von Erich - over David? Don't feel like I've seen enough Kevin. James Storm -- ?? Huh? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 David Von Erich sucks. If I was turning in a ballot now I don't think Storm would make my list, but he'd be above several people on the list above, including Dory. There is a thread where I talk about him in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Could you add Bill Watts to the list maybe? His nickname was "The Cowboy". 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Ted DiBiase 4. Dory Funk Jr. 5. Barry Windham 6. Tully Blanchard 7. Dick Murdoch 8. Dustin Rhodes 9. Bob Orton Jr (based solely on "whenenver I've seen him pop up") 10. Kerry von Erich 11. Steven Austin 12. Dusty Rhodes 13. Tito Santana 14. Dutch Mantell 15. Mark Henry 16. Bruiser Brody Kevin Von Erich - over David? Don't feel like I've seen enough Kevin. James Storm -- ?? Huh? Who? David isn't nominated. James Storm is a guy from TNA. Parv I think you need to watch more Mark Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagne Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Here's a few more to consider: Ron Bass, Black Bart, Bobby Duncum Sr. and Jr., Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza, Scott Irwin, Billy and Bart Gunn, Sam Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Here's a few more to consider: Ron Bass, Black Bart, Bobby Duncum Sr. and Jr., Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza, Scott Irwin, Billy and Bart Gunn, Sam Houston None are nominated. Are they worthy for a top 100 GWE spot? I can't see a case for any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The idea of James Storm being above Dory sickens me to my stomach. But it's all cool, everyone is entitlted to their opinions. I feel I've seen enough Mark Henry, by the way, he's not making my 100. I've fallen lower on Tully for some reason, and I'm trying to work out why. I think it's because I don't like the structure of a lot of his singles matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Actually Tully above Windham, what am I thinking? I think Dory's overall body of work is stronger than both at this point by the way. He's taken a big upswing for me recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 You don't even know who Janes Storm is so your opinion on that subject has no value to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I was being facetious of course. I think I've actually seen James Storm live, possibly it was against Bobby Roode, possibly ... can't really remember. There's absolutely no way he has a stronger body-of-work than Dory Jr. Or are you about to tell me I should have been watching TNA all of these years? I'd rather not rehash any of my old arguments about him or anyone else though. I feel people know my positions well, I'd rather hear from other contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagne Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Here's a few more to consider: Ron Bass, Black Bart, Bobby Duncum Sr. and Jr., Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza, Scott Irwin, Billy and Bart Gunn, Sam Houston None are nominated. Are they worthy for a top 100 GWE spot? I can't see a case for any of them. You're probably right. I just didn't want to be presumptuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Here's a few more to consider: Ron Bass, Black Bart, Bobby Duncum Sr. and Jr., Blackjack Mulligan and Blackjack Lanza, Scott Irwin, Billy and Bart Gunn, Sam Houston None are nominated. Are they worthy for a top 100 GWE spot? I can't see a case for any of them. You're probably right. I just didn't want to be presumptuous. Feel free to nominate them, if you want to watch the footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Could you add Bill Watts to the list maybe? His nickname was "The Cowboy". 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Ted DiBiase 4. Dory Funk Jr. 5. Barry Windham 6. Tully Blanchard 7. Dick Murdoch 8. Dustin Rhodes 9. Bob Orton Jr (based solely on "whenenver I've seen him pop up") 10. Kerry von Erich 11. Steven Austin 12. Dusty Rhodes 13. Tito Santana 14. Dutch Mantell 15. Mark Henry 16. Bruiser Brody Kevin Von Erich - over David? Don't feel like I've seen enough Kevin. James Storm -- ?? Huh? Who? Kevin Von Erich is fucking awesome. I don't know if he is better than Kerry per se (they are very different), but he is my favorite Von Erich. He is totally all fight, all the time. My favorite spot recently was Flair was about to do a backbreaker so he just punched him in the side of the head. He just has a "fuck it, let's brawl" attitude to him. I once heard him described as if no one smartened him up to the fact that business is a work the way he wrestles. It really fits to a tee (clearly he knew it was a work), but he did a great job wrestling like it was a shoot. I really wish he got a money babyface run in a different territory. He would have been a great WWF Champion for Vince Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 This is a great list although Dutch is a Tennessee guy. He spent too much time in Memphis, SMW, and Tennessee indies. He worse a cowboy hat, poncho and had a cow whip! As someone from Tennessee I refuse to accept Dutch in this category. I get why you put him in there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Great thread. Guaranteed to make my top 100: 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Dick Murdoch 4. Barry Windham 5. Tully Blanchard On the edge 6. Steve Austin 7. Kerry von Erich 8. Dusty Rhodes Probably won't/need to rewatch 9. Mark Henry 10. Dory Funk Jr. 11. Dusty Rhodes 12. Cowboy Bob Orton 13. Bruiser Brody Guys I need to see more of before I can rank them - Dutch Mantell - James Storm - Ted DiBiase - Tito Santana - Kevin von Erich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Top 3 Cowboys-Texans. All will rank VERY HIGH on my list. 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Dick Murdoch Others in no particular order. Don't know if all make my list at this point. Barry Windham Tully Blanchard Ted Dibiase Dusty Rhodes Dustin Rhodes Dory Funk Jr. Kerry Von Erich Kevin Von Erich Steve Austin Bob Orton Jr. Dutch Mantell Blackjack Mulligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Cool idea, Locks Dustin Rhodes Terry Funk Stan Hansen Steve Austin On the Bubble Dory Funk Jr. Mark Henry Tito Santana Tully Blanchard Need to See More Barry Windham Bruiser Brody Dick Murdoch Dutch Mantell Kerry von Erich Kevin von Erich James Storm No Chance Bob Orton Jr. Dusty Rhodes Ted Dibiase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 DiBiase is no chance? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I've never been impressed by his WWF and AJPW stuff. He's a decent hand, at times, but he's also dreadfully monotonous and boring for long stretches of his career. Great character work, but his character work only carries him so far. I'm more than open to his Mid-South work blowing me away, but I don't think there's enough there for him to suddenly catapult into contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Barry Windham is getting seriously underrated here by some of YOU PEOPLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I've never been impressed by his WWF and AJPW stuff. He's a decent hand, at times, but he's also dreadfully monotonous and boring for long stretches of his career. Great character work, but his character work only carries him so far. I'm more than open to his Mid-South work blowing me away, but I don't think there's enough there for him to suddenly catapult into contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 My list at this point would be GOATS Terry Funk Stan Hansen Second tier Barry Windham Dustin Rhodes Around the top 50 mark Dick Murdoch Between 60-100 Tito Santana Steve Austin Tully Blanchard Possibly top 100, not likely Mark Henry Not quite there Ted Diabiase The Leftovers Bob Orton Jr. Bruiser Brody Dory Funk jr. Dusty Rhodes Dutch Mantell James Storm Kerry Von Erich Kevin Von Erich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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