goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Ohio is Georgia's until WWF INVADES their territory in October. Or do you want to dispute Dave Meltzer's 1983 Yearbook which states for October 8th "Vince McMahon's WWF goes into Georgia cities touching off a feud throughout Ohio. McMahon opens up to 2300 in Cincy and 2000 in Dayton" Does the WWF plan on invading KrisZ's secondary market of Ohio then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Vince McMahon Sr would never "invade" an NWA promotion, come on now. Ohio is a WWF market. It's not even near Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Southwest Championship Wrestling is trying to stir up shit within the NWA. I don't think we should stand for all this stirring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 That's odd. There are all these results from cagematch.net that say GCW and locations in Ohio. Dates and locations such as these: (29.01.1983) GCW @ Ohio Center in Columbus, Ohio, USA (30.01.1983) GCW @ Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA (03.02.1983) GCW @ Hara Arena in Dayton, Ohio, USA (20.02.1983) GCW @ Ohio Center in Columbus, Ohio, USA (08.04.1983) GCW @ Hara Arena in Dayton, Ohio, USA (09.04.1983) GCW @ Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA (04.05.1983) GCW @ The Breakaway in Akron, Ohio, USA (07.05.1983) GCW @ Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnatti, Ohio, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 WWF @ Akron, OH - Copley High School Gym - February 26, 1983 (2,700) WWF @ Warren, OH - WD Packard Music Hall - February 27, 1983 (3,000; sell out) WWF @ Steubenville, OH - St. Johns Arena - March 18, 1983 (6,500) WWF @ Struthers, OH - Fieldhouse - April 3, 1983 (3,500; sell out) WWF @ East Liverpool, OH - April 13, 1983 (1,500) WWF @ Akron, OH - Copley High School - April 14, 1983 (1,000) And so on. You are also stirring Southwest booker man, these lands are a long way from the Southwest. I suggest you keep your beak out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 High School Gyms & Music Halls seems pretty small potatoes compared to the 5,500 seat Hara Center, the 6,500 seat Ohio Center, not to mention the Riverfront arena that sat 17,00 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I forced some promotion wars starting before the draft is over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I am not happy about people wanting to compete in established WWF secondary markets such as Ohio, LA and Detroit. Hold up here on Ohio boss......GCW was running Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Akron, Dayton, & Mansfield at this time as well as West Virginia, and some towns in Michigan such as Saginaw, Lansing, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The WWF were running shows and selling out across OH in early 1983, look at it. If you don't want to run the same towns on Ohio, we need to agree who runs which towns and carve it up. But also this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The only town that overlaps there is Akron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I couldn't find attendance for "The Breakaway in Akron, Ohio" but judging by the other arenas GCW was running in Ohio I am assuming it held more than the Copley High School Gym. I would say that should give GCW the town. Assuming we confirm the higher capacity of The Breakaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 What is the Blanchard's stake in all of this I ask? Here's a visual representation of goc: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 You are also stirring Southwest booker man, these lands are a long way from the Southwest. I suggest you keep your beak out. I would also like to state that comments, or even perhaps threats such as this really have no place in what is simply a conversation between promoters over who should run what town. As an outsider to the NWA organization, I think I have standing as a partial mediator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 As an outsider to the NWA you should stay out of matters internal to the NWA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The health of the wrestling business, which is dependent on not having territory wars, is more important than any affiliation to NWA, AWA or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Since we have both been running Ohio earlier in the year, I think it is fair that we can both carry on running shows there. Detroit, however, is mine. As you will see, I am the territory closest to Michigan and it is a natural place for me to run. California is mine. We have already agreed that Central States will run St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 GCW never ran Detroit anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 So you agree that we can both keep running shows in Ohio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I know ICW was an outlaw promotion anyway, I'm planning on running shows in Kentucky, Tennessee, Illinois, and West Virginia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 You run your towns I'll run mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 So you agree that we can both keep running shows in Ohio? You run your towns I'll run mine I am glad that I could have a helping hand in seeing what could have turned into a catastrophic territory war get peacefully resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Do you have a problem with any of these? Akron, OH - Physical Education BuildingCincinatti, OH - Riverfront ColiseumDayton, OH - Hara ArenaWarren, OH - WD Packard Music Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Akron, OH - Physical Education Building is the Hokkaido of 1983. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 To be honest, I don't really see what business GCW has doing up there. Ohio is on the WWF's doorstep. Cleveland is one of the most naturally WWF towns there is. It's ridiculous that a Southern promotion is trying to claim any of those towns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I guess it's ridiculous if you want to ignore that they were already running those towns regularly in July, 1983 while WWF wasn't. And that the promoter of Georgia succinctly told you "You run your towns I'll run mine" to which you responded asking him about running towns such as Cincinatti & Dayton which you have not run before in arenas you've never been in. Ignoring those things, it IS ridiculous. Not quite as ridiculous as a Northeast territory claiming something all the way out on the West Coast though. Something like that would make you think the WWF had national aspirations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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