Wahoos Leg Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 The latest version of "24/7" on HBO is "Jimmie Johnson: Race to Daytona." Is it a good sign that as far as I know, a certain someone hasn't mentioned it yet? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 The latest version of "24/7" on HBO is "Jimmie Johnson: Race to Daytona." Is it a good sign that as far as I know, a certain someone hasn't mentioned it yet? I don't get it. Every time HBO does one of these, Dave devotes at least a page of the Observer to how it's the Greatest Program in the History Of TV, and also how This is How Wrestling Should be Promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 (Before this one, they'd all been boxing shows, by the way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 It was one of Dave's main avenues of banging the "all sports where dudes fight, real or simulated, should be promoted the same way" drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 It was one of Dave's main avenues of banging the "all sports where dudes fight, real or simulated, should be promoted the same way" drum. Now we have NXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 How often has WWE used the "one wrestler drives a car into another's car" plot device? Have they already lost interest in the Bret-Vince feud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Jimmy didn't win 'tona. The race had a horrendous pair of deadspots due to a freaking pothole. The finish was "great" until you slow down to remember the last 10 laps were re-start-o-rama that was getting painfully annoying by the last one, and was only saved because fans gto fired up by Junior coming out of nowhere to challenge. Hell... the live coverage couldn't get touch on the best part of the "great": Junior got beat while driving the best equipment in the field by someone driving for what's left of his Step Mom's (and his own) old team. It's 'tona so people will oversell the "greatness" of the finish, both because it's Freaking 'Tona and also (which folks usually forget) it's the first race of the year and NASCAR Fan is all geeked up after not having any racing for several months. By April fans will remember that far too many races end in freaking re-start-o-ramas. By June, they'll be banging their heads against the wall over it. By August they'll be slowly clicking away to other things as Football starts up. Note: I'm a NASCAR Fan going back to when Cale Yarborough was driving for Junior Johnson. So I'm being critical of something that I've enjoyed for 30+ years. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 And Jimmie Johnson's average Daytona 500 finish from 2006-2009 is 27th. He won the title all four years. There is a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan for NXT! is something I dont know what to make of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan for NXT! is something I dont know what to make of. I for one think it's great, I'm getting tired hearing the internet bitch about the same things ad nauseam. At least this will be something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan for NXT! is something I dont know what to make of. I for one think it's great, I'm getting tired hearing the internet bitch about the same things ad nauseam. At least this will be something new. Im just wondering if Daniel Bryan gets modelled into a Hollywood douche and how interesting that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 How funny would it be if Daniel Bryan's character was some sort of beach boy who always has the perfect tan? The bitching and complaining from the ROH zealots would be legen - wait for it - dary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm hoping they portray Danielson as some no nothing greenhorn to the point that the Miz needs to teach him how to run the ropes and lock up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 WWE pairing Miz with Danielson has to just be WWE fucking with smarks. Meltzer is already pissed This is going to be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm not familiar with Danielson's work and had never seen Nigel McGuinness before TNA. I don't understand why smarks think decent to great workers can only be presented as serious, legitimate shooters. Do they not understand anything about this business? Has there ever been one successful wrestler with a completely bland character? That said, I don't understand the hype around McGuinness (he is Desmond Wolfe in TNA, right?). He looks goofy to me with the shaved head, little sunglasses, and Walmart windbreaker. His ring work is dull and he cuts promos that evoke memories of Sid Vicious. Am I just missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 I'm not familiar with Danielson's work and had never seen Nigel McGuinness before TNA. I don't understand why smarks think decent to great workers can only be presented as serious, legitimate shooters. Do they not understand anything about this business? Has there ever been one successful wrestler with a completely bland character? That said, I don't understand the hype around McGuinness (he is Desmond Wolfe in TNA, right?). He looks goofy to me with the shaved head, little sunglasses, and Walmart windbreaker. His ring work is dull and he cuts promos that evoke memories of Sid Vicious. Am I just missing something? I think - and I'm only maybe 25% joking here - is the appeal was he threw a lot of clotheslines (excuse me, "lariats") so it reminded smarks of their favorite puro guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 *Daniel Bryan, 28, the former Bryan Danielson. Good enough that he would walk into WWE and be the best technical wrestler in the company. His size is a detriment and he doesn't have that star look, but he's very likeable and this format, plus being the clear standout of the cast, could work for him. The Miz will be his mentor. Danielson is far more experienced in the business than Miz. He starteed wrestling in 1999, and first signing with WWE in 2000. He was tag team champion in developmental a decade ago before being let go, and has wrestled for Pro Wrestling NOAH and New Japan on tons of major shows, let alone his experience as ROH champion, and this is a curious pairing. But it's entertainment, and it can be fun watching Miz teach him how to work, and how not to antagonize the locker room.HERB SMASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 I'm not familiar with Danielson's work and had never seen Nigel McGuinness before TNA. I don't understand why smarks think decent to great workers can only be presented as serious, legitimate shooters. Do they not understand anything about this business? Has there ever been one successful wrestler with a completely bland character? That said, I don't understand the hype around McGuinness (he is Desmond Wolfe in TNA, right?). He looks goofy to me with the shaved head, little sunglasses, and Walmart windbreaker. His ring work is dull and he cuts promos that evoke memories of Sid Vicious. Am I just missing something? I think - and I'm only maybe 25% joking here - is the appeal was he threw a lot of clotheslines (excuse me, "lariats") so it reminded smarks of their favorite puro guys. Nigel's one of the few ROH guys that I always thought had major-league charisma and presence, along with probably only Punk and Joe. He carries himself like a star. His run as ROH champ produced a lot of entertaining promos and some really good matches with guys like Danielson and Generico. My favorite heel Nigel moment was getting Danielson to agree to a match where there would be no strikes to the head due to Nigel's recent concussions, Danielson passing up opportunities to win the belt with his elbows finisher, and Nigel then repeatedly headbutting Danielson en route to a victory. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 And Jimmie Johnson's average Daytona 500 finish from 2006-2009 is 27th. He won the title all four years. There is a long way to go. Completely agree on the season. Simply tying into the HBO thing: their focus on him led to nothing at 'tona. I don't think they're going to be following him through the entire Cup, are they? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Miz and Daniels will likely be the "conflict" of the show, you have to remember Miz is a vet of reality shows either that or we are going to see the Hybrid Douchebags in WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 And Jimmie Johnson's average Daytona 500 finish from 2006-2009 is 27th. He won the title all four years. There is a long way to go. Completely agree on the season. Simply tying into the HBO thing: their focus on him led to nothing at 'tona. I don't think they're going to be following him through the entire Cup, are they? John Nah it was just Daytona since it is the big daddy race of NASCAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoos Leg Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 As a lapsed ROH devotee, I always felt Nigel and Claudio both had that "big-time" potential because of their size, their ability to wrestle, their charisma before, during and after a match, et cetera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'll have to look at Nigel's ROH work, then. When I see him in TNA I see a jobber's windbreaker and a guy trying to look cool in outdated sunglasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 As far as these things go, I'm not sure if Freddie Prinze Jr. explaining the ring psychology of Japanese Andre The Giant matches to Jimmy Kimmel a few minutes ago was as cool as Debbie Harry explaining to David Letterman why Georgia Championship Wrestling was better than the WWF (while promoting Videodrome, no less!), but it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 As far as these things go, I'm not sure if Freddie Prinze Jr. explaining the ring psychology of Japanese Andre The Giant matches to Jimmy Kimmel a few minutes ago was as cool as Debbie Harry explaining to David Letterman why Georgia Championship Wrestling was better than the WWF (while promoting Videodrome, no less!), but it was awesome. I have to see both of these. Didn't Diane Keaton of all people bring up wrestling on Letterman after attending a WWF House Show in MSG in 85 or 86? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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