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[Bix]

As someone who talked to Cornette for two hours recently for a Slam Wrestling piece that will eventually come out, he comes off as someone who's happy not to talk about Russo et al, but does it in interviews because it's what people expect of him and find entertaining. When I asked him about doing a podcast where I promised not to mention Vince Russo, he laughed and seemed to love the idea of doing an interview where that stuff doesn't come up. Just look at how much he seemed to enjoy talking about his early years in the business on the YouShoot DVD. Sure, he has strong feelings of dislike of Russo but it seems more like a performance as opposed to letting that stuff get to him, especially as he's made it clear in interviews that he knows he needs to de-stress as much as possible for his health's sake.

 

As far as the DOI piece, it's DOI, so I don't really believe anything they say.

[jdw]

I don't know about DOI, Bix. Enlighten the novices among us.

 

 

John

[kjh]

As far as the DOI piece, it's DOI, so I don't really believe anything they say.

Yeah, they lost me on the checking computers stuff.

[jdw]

I thought that was one of the rambling sections, but there is a point under it:

 

Jimmy threatened to call the cops on the DOI guy claiming the guy had on his computer... it's not hard to figure out.

 

Which is a skunky thing to threaten, let alone do when you're in a simple pissing contest with someone. His comeback ran the point into the ground, but isn't a bad one if he kept it to one sentence:

 

I'll be happy to have the cops check my computer as long as the check your boss's as well.

 

He didn't need to explain why, let alone run it into the ground. The readers don't really need to get it. It's something that *Jim* would have gotten and shut him the fuck up on that threat.

 

John

[rovert]

I don't know about DOI, Bix. Enlighten the novices among us.

 

 

John

 

DOI have a history of reporting Easy coast indy centric "writing on the public toilet wall" level news. The tit bit about Cary and Kenny Omega is the kind of stuff they publish.

 

 

Bix and Cornette talking old school Wrestling on a Loser Leaves Town podcast would be the bestest.

[spudz25]

Loser Leave Town Podcast with Corny would be great.

 

I'm a huge Corny fan.

 

I also wish we could get a real interview with him instead of people constantly wanting to discuss the thorns in his side as opposed to him telling great stories in a most entertaining way.

 

As for the article, he was so busy telling me how he wasn't a mark for Corny calling him, that he sounded like a huge mark.

 

What's the Larry Sweeney story? What happened to Sweeney? I kind of fell out of current wrestling after the Benoit debacle and haven't heard anything about Sweeney since coming back to reading about wrestling.

[Bix]

Sweeney's bipolar. He went off his medication for an extended period of time and was in really bad shape throughout, with some bizarre episodes taking place like showing up at a show covered in dried blood and doing spots with fans outside the arena the day of the Raw taping after WM25. During that time, he made some comments that kind of implied a sexual relationship of some sort with Silkin, which had been rumored. He was eventually hospitalized, and has been properly medicated and doing fine since.

[MJH]

Can someone just comfirm that the "Holy Demon Army" name for Kawada and Taue is a westernism or the origins of the name?

[KrisZ]

DOI is also heavily entrenched with RF and just now accepted GAYbe back after he made his amends with RF. DOI hates Silkin & ROH so take that for what it's worth.

[MikeCampbell]

DOI is good for humor, but anything they report as news should be taken with, give or take, a truckload of salt. When Sapolsky was booking ROH, DOI had stories every other day about Gabe, most of which wound up being shot all to hell.

[spudz25]

Thanks for the info on Sweeney, glad to hear he's fine.

 

Bi-Polar and Pro Wrestling sounds like a lethal cocktail.

[Bix]

Kanyon, Eddy Guerrero, and Brian Pillman were also bipolar.

[rovert]

DOI is good for humor, but anything they report as news should be taken with, give or take, a truckload of salt. When Sapolsky was booking ROH, DOI had stories every other day about Gabe, most of which wound up being shot all to hell.

DOI also operated as the one stop shop for Dana Dameson stories

[rovert]

Kanyon, Eddy Guerrero, and Brian Pillman were also bipolar.

I didnt know Pillman was bi-polar. I just thought he carried around a lot of guilt over his partner before Melanie, Rochelle's suicide.

 

Piper always struck me as a bi-polar type.

[jdw]

Can someone just comfirm that the "Holy Demon Army" name for Kawada and Taue is a westernism or the origins of the name?

Hisa Tanabe three years ago:

 

Where did Toshiaki Kawada and Akira Taue get the name "Holy Demon Army" from?

 

English translation of the kanji, but from Hisa is looks like a reasonable one for for the holy + oni characters.

 

John

[rovert]

Corny loses me on his whole UFC = pro wrestling mantra more than anything else.

But it is:

 

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/04/1...s-chael-sonne/

 

Stips and everything

[Bix]

Kanyon, Eddy Guerrero, and Brian Pillman were also bipolar.

I didnt know Pillman was bi-polar. I just thought he carried around a lot of guilt over his partner before Melanie, Rochelle's suicide.

 

Piper always struck me as a bi-polar type.

 

The Pillman thing came from Meltzer at some point.

[Boondocks Kernoodle]

--In a crazy story, Jim Cornette sent an e-mail to Terry Taylor of TNA saying he meant no ill will toward anyone in the company except Vince Russo, and then wrote a descriptive letter saying he regularly wakes up from dreams in which he's in the act of murdering Vince Russo, will willingly go to jail for what he will do the next time he sees him. The letter says he hopes TNA goes under becuase of the stupidity Dixie Carter has exhibited in employing Russo and the WCW murderers. He said he's mad at Jeff Jarrett for talking him into working with Russo, and Carter, for employing Russo and lying to him why he was fired and not saying it had to do with Ed Ferrara behind hired. He wrote he liked Mike Tenay Don West, Keith Mitchell, David Sahadi, Bob Ryder, all the talent and even Dave Penzer. Cornette even posted the letter on his web site at http://www.jimcornette.com

 

--TNA responded with attorney Guy Blake of Davis Shapiro Lewit & Hayes saying they have notified law enforcement officals in Kentucky that the letter contains terroristic threats claiming he woud wish to commit a crime which would result in death or bodily injury with his threats on Russo. They wrote the e-mail satisfies all the elements needed and it is irrelevant whether he actually intended to do anything he said. They wrote that Vince Russo has experienced extreme fear for himself and his family and TNA management shars his concern, for not only Russo, but all of their employees, staff members and talent. They also wrote that his talking about the details of his firing publicly were considered by TNA to be releasing confidential company information.

[rovert]

--In a crazy story, Jim Cornette sent an e-mail to Terry Taylor of TNA saying he meant no ill will toward anyone in the company except Vince Russo, and then wrote a descriptive letter saying he regularly wakes up from dreams in which he's in the act of murdering Vince Russo, will willingly go to jail for what he will do the next time he sees him. The letter says he hopes TNA goes under becuase of the stupidity Dixie Carter has exhibited in employing Russo and the WCW murderers. He said he's mad at Jeff Jarrett for talking him into working with Russo, and Carter, for employing Russo and lying to him why he was fired and not saying it had to do with Ed Ferrara behind hired. He wrote he liked Mike Tenay Don West, Keith Mitchell, David Sahadi, Bob Ryder, all the talent and even Dave Penzer. Cornette even posted the letter on his web site at http://www.jimcornette.com

 

--TNA responded with attorney Guy Blake of Davis Shapiro Lewit & Hayes saying they have notified law enforcement officals in Kentucky that the letter contains terroristic threats claiming he woud wish to commit a crime which would result in death or bodily injury with his threats on Russo. They wrote the e-mail satisfies all the elements needed and it is irrelevant whether he actually intended to do anything he said. They wrote that Vince Russo has experienced extreme fear for himself and his family and TNA management shars his concern, for not only Russo, but all of their employees, staff members and talent. They also wrote that his talking about the details of his firing publicly were considered by TNA to be releasing confidential company information.

Cornette talks about it here:

http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/entry...T14_05_26-07_00

 

He provides the background to all this on it.

[Bix]

I love that this comes out within hours of my post about how I didn't think he really let that stuff get to him, though his reasoning taken on its own (that, like with Jim Herd, he feels that Russo irreparably damaged the wrestling business in ways that damaged the livelihood of him and his friends) is sound.

 

The email itself isn't necessarily problematic in terms of threats (just in terms of Jim needing to deal with how angry this makes him) until the "willingly go to jail" line. He did fuck up there, and he needs to find a healthier way to deal with his anger, but Taylor should've talked to him about it first.

[S.L.L.]

In somewhat less humorous news from a more reliable source....

 

Gene "Big Thunder" Kiniski, one of the great pro wrestlers of all-time, passed away this morning at his home in Blaine, WA. Kiniski, 81, had been battling cancer for some time and his death was not a surprise.

 

Kiniski, a former college football player at Arizona, was a headliner from almost the start of his career in 1953. He made his name as a top heel in Canada through the nationally televised events in the 50s with a legendary feud with Whipper Billy Watson, the biggest star at the time in Canadian wrestling. He was also in the mix with names like Killer Kowalski, Yvon Robert and Edouard Carpentier when pro wrestling's popularity peaked in Montreal during the late 50s.

 

During his career he held the Montreal version of the world title, the AWA world title, the WWA world title and had his big run from January 7, 1966 through February 11, 1969, when he held the NWA world title. He was generally regarded as one of the best workers in the business during the 50s and 60s. He also had ownership in the Vancouver wrestling promotion until 1983. During the 60s and through the mid-70s, British Columbia had a strong local promotion featuring some of the best wrestlers of that era.

 

Two of his sons, Nick and Kelly, became pro wrestlers in the 80s.

 

Kiniski headlined a number of baseball stadium shows in many different parts of the world during his career, most notably a Montreal world title match with Kowalski, an NWA title match with Fritz Von Erich and an International title match at the old Budokan Stadium in Tokyo against Giant Baba, which is often considered the greatest match of Baba's career.

[Guest Talon]

ok I shared this with Bix and I think it might be the greatest bit ever in wrestling history

 

 

Thing is you have to watch like all 8 or 10 parts. It is just mind blowing.

[Bix]

If the new WON is any indication, the DOI story is actually true.

[rovert]

ok I shared this with Bix and I think it might be the greatest bit ever in wrestling history

 

 

Thing is you have to watch like all 8 or 10 parts. It is just mind blowing.

 

Probably the best IMPACT Ive watched this year, probably ever.

[Death From Above]

In somewhat less humorous news from a more reliable source....

 

Gene "Big Thunder" Kiniski, one of the great pro wrestlers of all-time, passed away this morning at his home in Blaine, WA. Kiniski, 81, had been battling cancer for some time and his death was not a surprise.

 

Kiniski, a former college football player at Arizona, was a headliner from almost the start of his career in 1953. He made his name as a top heel in Canada through the nationally televised events in the 50s with a legendary feud with Whipper Billy Watson, the biggest star at the time in Canadian wrestling. He was also in the mix with names like Killer Kowalski, Yvon Robert and Edouard Carpentier when pro wrestling's popularity peaked in Montreal during the late 50s.

 

During his career he held the Montreal version of the world title, the AWA world title, the WWA world title and had his big run from January 7, 1966 through February 11, 1969, when he held the NWA world title. He was generally regarded as one of the best workers in the business during the 50s and 60s. He also had ownership in the Vancouver wrestling promotion until 1983. During the 60s and through the mid-70s, British Columbia had a strong local promotion featuring some of the best wrestlers of that era.

 

Two of his sons, Nick and Kelly, became pro wrestlers in the 80s.

 

Kiniski headlined a number of baseball stadium shows in many different parts of the world during his career, most notably a Montreal world title match with Kowalski, an NWA title match with Fritz Von Erich and an International title match at the old Budokan Stadium in Tokyo against Giant Baba, which is often considered the greatest match of Baba's career.