Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Well I doubt the Koko DVD will fly off the shelves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 ........but the Legends of Wrestlemania game he's in just might. Not just because Koko's in it, but they can use his induction as a reason to plug the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Really, the problem with the WWE Hall of Fame is that they just don't seem to have a clear idea as to what they want it to be. It first started more from the perspective of who was valuable to WWF/E and now they want it to be all inclusive, and as Loss mentioned, they want to market DVDs. And of course, it is political and the only people who will get inducted are those WWE is on good terms with and aren't currently under contract with another promotion. For example, if Sting wasn't signed with TNA, I'm sure WWE would make a major push to get him to accept a spot in the WWE HOF and then start rolling out the DVD of his career, as was planned at one point. EDIT: And on the subject of Koko's induction, what's more ironic is the Honky Tonk Man agreeing to induct him when HTM has yet to be inducted into the WWE HOF himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I think Honky Tonk Man turned down both a HOF invite and a legends contract because he still feels he can make money with the gimmick, which he owns, on the indie scene for a few more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Thanks for the info, Loss. And getting to the reported WCW DVD, I wonder if they plan to talk to Bill Watts as well, given that he's being inducted into the WWE HOF, and how they will ultimately portray his WCW run. Personally, I tend to think he has never really gotten an even-handed treatment, as his run seems to be on where people either loved it or hated it. And if WWE was able to track down Dave Crockett for the most recent Flair DVD, I'm really hoping they get Kip Allen Frye to chat, because I think he could provide the most interesting perspective on what life was like as WCW executive vice president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Koko's just odd because he's never really been featured at any point in the last 15 years. Came completely out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 That's what threw me off, having Honky be the one inducting Koko since not only is he not in the HOF but (as far as I can recall) they never had any interaction unless they feuded in Memphis. Also, how does Honky own his gimmick? That was a WWF creation was it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I think a court ruled that since he was "Honky Tonk" Wayne Ferris before WWF, he could continue to wrestle as HTM. After all, he couldn't have used the gimmick in WCW otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Koko's just odd because he's never really been featured at any point in the last 15 years. Came completely out of nowhere. He was on Heat during the Rob Conway "Beat a legend" tour after WWE Homecoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Koko's just odd because he's never really been featured at any point in the last 15 years. Came completely out of nowhere. He was on Heat during the Rob Conway "Beat a legend" tour after WWE Homecoming. And wasn't he a "fake" Blue Blazer during the angle that led up to Owen Hart's death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Koko's just odd because he's never really been featured at any point in the last 15 years. Came completely out of nowhere. He was on Heat during the Rob Conway "Beat a legend" tour after WWE Homecoming. And wasn't he a "fake" Blue Blazer during the angle that led up to Owen Hart's death? Pretty sure he was. I find Koko a bit more surprising due to his bashing of Vince and his handling of business in Beyond The Mat. Then again, after that, he did make that legends segment on RAW already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 So Jericho, Cena and Ikeda are all anime fans. Kawada sings the theme song to Cutey Honey. Who else in the fighting world -- both pro wrestling and MMA -- are big fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Josh Barnett is a huge video game mark, that's sort of ballpark I guess (it's possible he's an anime nerd too, I don't think it's a big jump from being a Final Fantasy fanboy is it, at the very least he's probably got a grasp of the base concepts). Completely useless random trivia: I once made him laugh on Zach Arnold's old forum when he put out a call for a cathphrase in New Japan and he understood the reference when I suggested ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxBx Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I'm just guessing, but Dick Togo's got to be a fan of Golgo 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Dave Meltzer in the 3/22 F4W.com update, on plenty of pro wrestling folk wackiness: --Cena in the New York Daily News, and this got picked up everywhere, said he thinks Alex Rodriguez should go to jail for taking steroids. He says this all the time. I'm waiting for someone to ask one of his fellow wrestlers about that comment, given that if this was the case, the federal warden would quickly overtake Vince McMahon as the leading wrestling promoter, and Cena would be stuck wrestling Mick Foley and Lance Storm every week on Raw. This is also on the front page of the Foxsports.com web site. --Creepy factor +150: It was noted in today's South Florida Sun Sentinel that Hulk Hogan went to see daughter Brooke to a pole dance. --Vince McMahon did an interview with the Hollywood Reporter today at www.hollywoodreporter.com He talks about Wrestlemania, TV ratings, UFC, TNA and the movie division. He said UFC has hurt boxing and not them. But he really sticks his foot in his mouth when talking about TNA, noting that they would never allow a competitor to use a baseball bat. But a sledge hammer is okay? He said TNA needs to change with the times and go TV-PG. --For those wondering about Kurt Angle and Robin Quivers, Quivers said that Kurt did ask her out on a text message and she declined the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkeats Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 The Assassins in Memphis circa 1980... Was this the actual Assassin team with Jody Hamilton or was this the Smith/Bass version. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Wrestling is a world of liars, lies and storiesstorytellers where Bs becomes accepted history overnight. It's alot easier to start a new myth than kill an old one. Where did the Superstar Graham could have turned face and become Hogan five years earlier story start? Is that something that started up with the Graham DVD set that WWE released? Or was that a story circulated earlier? Cause its become weirdly conventional wisdom at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I don't know if he could have been Hogan since that was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, but a face Superstar could have done big business had Vince Sr believed in babyfaces that weren't bland and/or ethnic stereotypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I've decided while watching Goodhelmet's 2008 MOTY set that my least favorite thing in current wrestling is rapid fire forearm exchanges back and forth that aren't sold. It's all to cover for no one being able to throw a decent punch, and what's the point when they appear to do no damage anyway? I see it more in modern Japan and (some, albeit less) U.S. indies than I do anywhere else, but I really do hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Yeah, the forearm thing is a little overdone but man I don't want to go back to too many punches. Punches never did any real damage either though for the most part. Punches are illegal too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Punch or forearm, at least sell it. I think that's the more frustrating part, just trading strikes back and forth rapidly with no selling is ultra annoying. Also, try as I might, I just don't get Kenta Kobashi anymore. I realize he's broken down and that what he does gets a genuine reaction. But I just don't get the chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop stuff at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Yeah the no-selling got so berserk in Japan. It really killed it for me and did a lot to hurt my interest. There's a reason the only two things I've done with watching wrestling in 2 years were a 1990's AJPW project and the 80's Mid South Ballot (both time well spent). I was also just recently rewatching some 2003-ish Kobashi and it really stunned me how Lex Luger Version 2.0 he was even then, let alone what he must be like now. I mean I watched a Tanahashi/Nagata vs. Honda/Kobashi GHC tag title match and there's literally not one Kobashi sequence in that match that isn't stolen from Luger, as long as you substitue "10 punches in the corner" with "Kobashi chops in the corner". Everything else in that match is pure Luger. I remember reading a very long post at DVDVR once detailing the horror of the amount of raw work he had done on his knees over something like 2 years, so he has every excuse, but still. A lot of Kobashi's work in this decade is not going to age very favourably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Yeah I got to agree with the Kobashi thing. I watched his comeback vs Inoue and it was just painful to watch. Kinda like Flair in 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't know if he could have been Hogan since that was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, but a face Superstar could have done big business had Vince Sr believed in babyfaces that weren't bland and/or ethnic stereotypes. I think it all stems from the story that Vince Jr. would talk about how Graham should have been turned face and pushed as a huge babyface, and Vince Sr. wouldn't hear of it, and wanted Backlund. Supposedly, Bruno wanted Graham to be the next long term champ as well, but who knows the truth there. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Yeah I got to agree with the Kobashi thing. I watched his comeback vs Inoue and it was just painful to watch. Kinda like Flair in 07. ?? That match was great. Most people who watched it thought was good to pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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