tomk Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I don't know how to do "grabbing". But still available in google cache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:uZOXHg...chairclassics07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 PDF'ing it is pretty easy:  http://www.otherarena.com/z_jdw/WWE_Chairshoots.pdf   The videos are:  Hogan-DiBiase  ECW Chairs  Foley-Taker  Rock-Foley  Awesome-Tanaka  Rock-Austin  Chavo-Rey  Now the problem is... those don't quite right click, instead having another layer to where the files really are. They are at the level of what the preview add has been stripped out (by me editing crap off the URL).  If someone can go from that layer to a link that allows for right clicking and saving, I'd be more than happy to put together a presentation that embeds those videos along with the PDF that perhaps Bix can forward on to a certain former WWE wrestler who is investigating Concusions.  Someone want to do it before the WWE is bright enough to yank the videos? The article on it's own is pretty good, but the videos are exceptional.   John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Awesome-Tanaka Yeah WWE, make a highlight package of ANOTHER WRESTLER WHO HUNG HIMSELF THIS YEAR getting his brains scrambled real good, brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 That Booker/Rey one was pretty funny. Booker put the chair right up to his face. Â Didn't Foley and Rock get in trouble for their antics in the I Quit match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Couldn't have been much trouble, considering they went on to main event against each other all the way til Wrestlemania. Foley said in his 2nd book that Rock was only supposed to hit him five times, but got "lost in the moment" or whatever and turned it up to 11 instead. I doubt they would've premeditated putting on a match that goddamned brutal with his kids in the crowd and Barry Blaustein's cameras filming the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilJim2 Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yeah, surely I couldn't see Mick Foley doing such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 They pulled the chairshot article. That's pretty funny. I wonder what website they're monitoring where that was discussed and thought, "Oh shit... pull that quick!"  Too bad someone didn't grab all of it.   John   WO.com maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *FH* Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Foley said in his 2nd book that Rock was only supposed to hit him five times, but got "lost in the moment" or whatever and turned it up to 11 instead. Foley is such a stupid douche. What this hell is the difference, when it comes down to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Was "lost in the moment" the line the WWE used for Kat taking off her top too. Or did they just use the old "overenthusiastic performer" line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Was "lost in the moment" the line the WWE used for Kat taking off her top too. Or did they just use the old "overenthusiastic performer" line. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 From the file marked "Why have one broken orbital bone and detached retina when you can have two?", Bryan Danielson has been booked to face Takeshi Morishima again this Saturday, returning to action only three weeks after he suffered those injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 From the file marked "Why have one broken orbital bone and detached retina when you can have two?", Bryan Danielson has been booked to face Takeshi Morishima again this Saturday, returning to action only three weeks after he suffered those injuries. Misawa continued to work a match for about 29:30 after Kawada crushed his orbital bones... then worked again two nights later against Jun... and finished out the Carny by winning it over Taue. Â Clearly Danielson wants to be the New Misawa and this simply is part of the process of proving it to himself... and fanboys who get off on this stuff. Â "He killed himself for us!" Â John, who thinks that phrase has taken a new meaning after Benoit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I just want to point out that any fanboy who thinks Benoit killed himself for us is a fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I just want to point out that any fanboy who thinks Benoit killed himself for us is a fucking idiot. I would like to add the corollary that even if he did, any fanboy who is grateful to Benoit for killing himself for us is a fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I just want to point out that any fanboy who thinks Benoit killed himself for us is a fucking idiot. I doubt any think that deeply about it. Â My comment, as was the one about Bryan, was a play on the old, popular phrase that "Wrestler X killed himself for us" while doing something nuts in the ring. Â Considering that the nuttiness of Chris in the ring was one of many things that lead to his actions and death, that old phrase does have new, unsavory meaning. Â Â John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 OK, I thought you had seen it referenced somewhere that people felt Benoit committing suicide (killing himself) was for the fans. I guess you meant the phrase "Wrestler X destroying his body for us". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Really good article on concussions in high school football: Â http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/sports/f...amp;oref=slogin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 So Bix, where's my copy Paste transcript of the Real Sports segment on wrestling? It was on at 9 right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I totally forgot that was tonight. Â Why is it my job and why is it some sort of shot to say it is? This is not a high-traffic board, if something of note happens and isn't posted yet, I post it. It's not like I posted a transcripts of Ken Wayne and Johnnie Stewart's media appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Ken Wayne was in the media? Oh yeah I forgot he was on Fox news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 It was an updated version of the 2003 piece. They basically just went over the Benoit stuff, everything you've heard, the drugs, tough lifestyle, concussions (that issue got all of one sentence). They had a new interview with Bagwell, talking about how tough the business is and all that. They showed footage of him working a small indy show. He talked about how he still needs painkillers to make it through the day. When asked why he doesn't just give it up, he says it's all he has. They also showed interviews from the '03 segment with Vince, the Patriot, and Teddy Hart. They mentioned the wellness policy and the suspensions. It was nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 To prove how concussions are more ingrained in the macho mindset and not just a wrestling centric issue, Jon Kitna of the Detroit Lions had a concussion that knocked him out of last week's game, only to return in the 4th quarter to seal the win. Not only was he allowed to return to a game the same day he had a concussion, he was taking all sort of Foley-esque hits in the process that surely wasn't good for a recently mushed brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 To prove how concussions are more ingrained in the macho mindset and not just a wrestling centric issue, Jon Kitna of the Detroit Lions had a concussion that knocked him out of last week's game, only to return in the 4th quarter to seal the win. Not only was he allowed to return to a game the same day he had a concussion, he was taking all sort of Foley-esque hits in the process that surely wasn't good for a recently mushed brain. Funny that you mention the macho mindset, as Chris Nowinski was on TSN's Off The Record, and defended the WWE's response that they had no knowledge of Benoit having concussions. Nowinski's response was that the WWE, much like other sports organizations, don't have actual doctors on hand for that type of analysis, and instead just have emergency doctors who'll send you to a hospital ASAP whenever necessary, which is where you may receive the prognosis of a concussion. It's then up to the performer to report to his organization about his condition, should he choose to. Â I think this is where the personal choice/personal responsibility debate will open up again, because Nowinski leaves you with the impression that Benoit chose not to report his condition to the WWE for fear of being taken off the road, less money, etc. This might not necessarily fall under "macho mindset", but WWE not knowing about Benoit's condition falls more on Benoit, albeit one can definitely argue the labour conditions and how they influenced his choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Perhaps, but the NFL is very concerned about the effects of concussions after Steve Young and Troy Aikman, which makes last week's situation all the more frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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