Hulk Hogan Dies At 71

[Boss Rock]

13 minutes ago, Boss Rock said:

There were some folks who were taking Tony Khan and AEW to task for not saying anything about Hogan, which isn't entirely surprising given TK has been adamant AEW would have nothing to do with him. And while it is strange they gave a platform to Sabu who also said racist things, I appreciate the fact he stuck to his guns and didn't feel the need to say anything about Hogan.

Nevermind, Schiavone actually addressed Hogan's death on Collision.

[David Mantell]

Jim and Brian came up with quite a good balanced piece.

[flyonthewall2983]

That funeral is going to be tense

[El-P]

I wonder if he got creative control on that one. 

Lance Storm with the usual based take (as they say) : 

 

[David Mantell]

On 7/28/2025 at 1:10 PM, David Mantell said:

Jim and Brian came up with quite a good balanced piece.

Follow up video.  Artwork shows Jim being offered a Hulk Hogan gingerbread man by the Cat In The Hat

 

 

[The Thread Killer]

As is usually the case when he does an obituary segment, I thought Cornette’s coverage of Hogan’s death was historically accurate, insightful and remarkably even handed, especially considering the fact that Hogan became a Trump guy over the past couple of years, and we all know how much Cornette loves Trump. I usually assume that if anything comes up that involves Trump on even a peripheral level, Cornette is going to totally lose his shit and start screaming profanities.

What I found especially humourous was the follow up piece. The response to Cornette’s podcast about Hogan pretty much encapsulates Pro Wrestling tribalism and overall online discourse in general nowadays. On one hand, he had people that were angry he wasn’t more complementary towards Hogan and wasn’t just blindly praising the guy, and on the other hand, he had people that were irate that he even mentioned Hogan at all because they think his name should be blotted from the history books.

Cornette sounded legitimately flabbergasted at the two totally divergent responses he was getting to the exact same segment. I had to wonder if he doesn’t pay attention when he uses Twitter, and I had to laugh at the irony that he has been one of the people who has helped contribute to the almost toxic levels of tribalism that exist in Pro Wrestling fandom right now.

You helped create the zombies, Jimbo. Don’t act surprised when they bite you.

[El-P]

21 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

I had to laugh at the irony that he has been one of the people who has helped contribute to the almost toxic levels of tribalism that exist in Pro Wrestling fandom right now.

You helped create the zombies, Jimbo. Don’t act surprised when they bite you.

To keep on with the zombi analogy, Cornette really is the patient zero of toxic podcast host nurturing a crowd of hating sycophants.

Meanwhile, this :

[ohtani's jacket]

Cornette's podcast was better than the drivel everywhere else. 

[David Mantell]

7 hours ago, El-P said:

To keep on with the zombi analogy, Cornette really is the patient zero of toxic podcast host nurturing a crowd of hating sycophants.

Nothing toxic about Corny, he's a voice of reason and the only means by which I can be bothered to keep up to date with developments in modern day American Wrestling.

I did have to once check out a Young Bucks match to make sure that their brand of Floppy is nothing like Le Petit Prince Vs Michel Saulnier and lo and behold there is indeed no similarity whatsoever.  He and Brian are also usually very diligent in stating that their requirements for pro wrestling re. size and an identifiable face Vs heel apply only to American Wrestling post WW2.

[Lukeless]

Cornette is absolutely toxic.  He's wished death upon Kenny Omega at least more than once ("sarcastically").  He disparages AEW no matter the storyline, no matter the performers, no matter the quality or style of a match.  It is toxic and creates hatred and resentment in his community and you can't deny that just because Cornette's taste in wrestling may be the same as yours.

Cornette is a great performer, amazing heel manager, and is often observant and insightful about certain modern-day companies and performers.  But when it comes to AEW there's no legitimate consideration of the product, he is creating and maintaining a narrative that the company is ruining wrestling and that has led to toxic reactions.  For example, the Corny reddit which I had the displeasure to accidentally visit a couple days ago.

[sek69]

He also more than once implied Kenny is a pedo due to his involvement with women's wrestling in Japan. Plus it's one thing for something to not be one's cup of tea, but his irrational hate boner towards all things AEW make me wonder if he tried hitting up TK for a job at one point and was shot down. 

[NintendoLogic]

Whatever one may think of Cornette's views on other matters, he hit the nail on the head with Hogan when he said "His real stories were good enough." His actual career was so incredible as to practically sound like fiction, so it boggles the mind that he felt the need to embellish his life story to such an absurd degree.

[Big Pete]

4 hours ago, sek69 said:

AEW make me wonder if he tried hitting up TK for a job at one point and was shot down. 

Supposedly when TK was piecing AEW together he met with Cornette and considered bringing Jim in as a creative consultant. However when Jim heard about who else was being involved in the company he decided it wasn't going to be a good fit and moved on from the venture. He often refers to himself as the one guy who wasn't willing to take TK's money and make a fool of himself by associating with AEW and often feels bad for JR.

Supposedly he signed an NDA and nearly violated it when he revealed that TK was interested in signing Punk from the get go. 

I think Jim's gripes with AEW are legitimate but I don't think he'd discuss it at length if it wasn't earning him a nice pay cheque. 

[El-P]

Imagine paying any attention to whatever Jim Cornette has to say about current pro-wrestling in 2025 (or at any point in the last 15 years, to be *extremely* generous). 

So in the Netflix doc, Vince said that "Hogan was not a racist. He said some racist things, but he was not a racist". Which to Vince is probably akin to "I am not a rapist. I did some rapist things, but I am not a rapist". He also looks like some cursed IA version of his animated drowned corpse.

[David Mantell]

15 hours ago, Lukeless said:

Cornette is absolutely toxic.  He's wished death upon Kenny Omega at least more than once ("sarcastically").  He disparages AEW no matter the storyline, no matter the performers, no matter the quality or style of a match. 

There is nothing unusual about feelings of dark rage over those who mock, abuse and bring into disrepute over something one loves - especially if the mockers happen to gain their employment from the thing one loves.That is still a long way from actually going out and doing something stupid - when some fool tried to bomb (or whatever) an AEW show in his name, he rightly denounced the guy.  

I'm guessing you don't actually listen to his podcasts, he does sometimes praise AEW and even current WWE matches.

[El-P]

The Corny idiotic "arguments" about AEW were shit that were all over the place 6 years ago. They were stupid then, they are absurdly idiotic now considering the history of AEW thus far, both in term of impact on the business for the workers, ridiculous quality of shows and just plain business standpoint.

As far as the rest goes, yeah, SMW was marketed as "pro-wrestling as it used to be" back in fucking 1992, so that's how stuck in the past Corny was already then. And the irony is that as much as he paints himself as progressive, he's basically acting in the pro-wrestling landscape like the guys he despises politically. There you go.

Anywoo. Hogan, dead, ya know. Wrong thread.

[sek69]

24 minutes ago, El-P said:

Back to Hogan, the latest stuff about Brooke's record deal contract is batshit insane.

The craziest part is that it wasn't even necessary to do that either. Her music, while it honestly wasn't terrible, was about a decade behind the times of what was popular so it was going to be a case of a problem solving itself sooner than later. It wasn't like he was snuffing out a potential Taylor Swift in the making. 

[El-P]

5 minutes ago, sek69 said:

The craziest part is that it wasn't even necessary to do that either. Her music, while it honestly wasn't terrible, was about a decade behind the times of what was popular so it was going to be a case of a problem solving itself sooner than later. It wasn't like he was snuffing out a potential Taylor Swift in the making. 

The fact he passed on the infamous letter at Christmas is legit sociopathic behaviour. Who would do such a thing ? 

Now Bubba (the Love Sponge, not the other grifter) apparently said it was to put money on Paul Wight as a boxer project or something (a Bischoff idea no doubt), but the chronology don't add up. So much crazy shit already uncovered and probably more to come (the Scientology stuff ?).

[Blehschmidt]

Can this guy please go back to making 72 posts a day about French and British wrestling that I can ignore, instead of showing his ignorance in threads I actually have interest in reading the discourse in?

[JRH]

In one of Hogan's final interviews, he actually put over Toni Storm:

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/hulk-hogan-really-likes-toni-003620291.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFuF-xaFByedFK1kXY-DKOZKL1yE8m5MixnqR22-jD1ENdocu17o1exCFFP-BNGeRiEV5Zi-tNFewskB5Fu0qYIDGtGMabGNWiuZz8ygDycaf_haufGuNg8Es_sKAivyTSm1t0TYhnx41lr_uDSrcZFJmfFrAWoN9u22EIJsx3AI

[The Thread Killer]

Ugh, didn’t we already beat this topic to death in the Cornette Podcast thread, and the “Cancellation of Jim Cornette” thread, and the NWA Power thread?

[El-P]

1 hour ago, WingedEagle said:

That got a pop. Those threads went from a fun resource into a family text chain you can't unsubscribe from.

😂

One hell of a 1-2 punch these two posts.

[David Mantell]

10 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

Ugh, didn’t we already beat this topic to death in the Cornette Podcast thread, and the “Cancellation of Jim Cornette” thread, and the NWA Power thread?

*Shrug* all I did was post a video then all hell broke loose.

But yeah, I'm for getting back on topic -Hogan being dead.

This was his funeral:

Some unintentional humour from the AI commentary.  Not sure either how many "little Hulkamaniacs" are 60 in 2025.

 

[sek69]

As someone who was 6 years old when Hulk first won the belt, most of the first generation little Hulksters are in their mid to late 40s now. I was always under the spell of Macho Madness myself, but I still remember one of my classmates in grade school showing up one day with a HULKAMANIA shirt autographed by the man himself (there was a house show at the Igloo that weekend) and he was royalty for the day. 

[David Mantell]

38 minutes ago, sek69 said:

As someone who was 6 years old when Hulk first won the belt, most of the first generation little Hulksters are in their mid to late 40s now. I was always under the spell of Macho Madness myself, but I still remember one of my classmates in grade school showing up one day with a HULKAMANIA shirt autographed by the man himself (there was a house show at the Igloo that weekend) and he was royalty for the day. 

Yes, 60 year olds would already have been 16 in 1981 when Hogan went babyface in the AWA.

I'm 51 and was 12  going on 13 when I first saw Hogan (Jan 87, the MSG lumberjack match Vs Savage from 9 months earlier).  Like I think I've already said. I just thought he was an American version of Big Daddy.