jdw Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I thought the liver transplant was due to Vince Sr. not letting him turn babyface with the title to become the Stone Cold Superstar with a longer run. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 He's been claiming that double juice matches transmitted the hepatitis for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Graham's pretty much put it all out there as far as his steroid use, so if he got the disease from, say, sharing needles with another wrestler, I don't think he'd try to cover it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 An aspiring painter, Graham said he intends to create and distribute T-shirts that depict a drawing of McMahon with a razor blade taped to her finger with dripping blood and the slogan, "Linda McMahon is a scam and is made out of spam." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I thought the liver transplant was due to Vince Sr. not letting him turn babyface with the title to become the Stone Cold Superstar with a longer run. John I am not exactly wishing for Graham's death, but I am kinda looking forward to the day that "Backlund killed Graham" becomes the next "Luger killed Liz". EDIT: Also...."Linda McMahon is a scam and is made out of spam"? Are people still talking about this guy as one of the great micworkers of all time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Linda's political ignorance already being exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Linda's political ignorance already being exposed. The McMahon campaign had the following response: "Linda is opposed to trying Khalid Sheik Mohammad in civilian court,'' spokesman Ed Patru said in an email. "Her position on terrorist trials is crystal clear and unwavering, just as it is with cap-and-trade, card check legislation, government-run healthcare and runaway spending." Basically Linda has no positions of her own. She's just adopting the teabagger and far right conservative positions. Seriously... that's a boilerplate level response that I could have written. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Linda's political ignorance already being exposed. The McMahon campaign had the following response: "Linda is opposed to trying Khalid Sheik Mohammad in civilian court,'' spokesman Ed Patru said in an email. "Her position on terrorist trials is crystal clear and unwavering, just as it is with cap-and-trade, card check legislation, government-run healthcare and runaway spending." Basically Linda has no positions of her own. She's just adopting the teabagger and far right conservative positions Except for abortion where she seems center left to left (and got oddly bashed for her what she said by a non-Markos DailyKos poster who was then skewered in the post's comments section). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 It's likely that Linda will back off her current abortion position and look for ways to walk down the middle (not to disimilar to how Obama tries to). But she'll drift rightward on it. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Well, McCain (who originally noted that overturning Roe v Wade would force “women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations," which is probably a more politically sound support the availability of abortions than what Linda said) did, so it's possible, but he didn't do it as quickly as she would have to. Also, for what it's worth, what was Linda's role in Titan pre-CEO? I know she bought a travel agency for the company to use (and then took on other clients for legal purposes)? How much did she actually do as CEO since she was seemingly thrown into the role when Vince went on trial and Jerry Jarrett was brought in as his potential replacement if he was convicted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Linda's political ignorance already being exposed. The McMahon campaign had the following response: "Linda is opposed to trying Khalid Sheik Mohammad in civilian court,'' spokesman Ed Patru said in an email. "Her position on terrorist trials is crystal clear and unwavering, just as it is with cap-and-trade, card check legislation, government-run healthcare and runaway spending." Basically Linda has no positions of her own. She's just adopting the teabagger and far right conservative positions. Seriously... that's a boilerplate level response that I could have written. John You know it's probably a good thing for her that the media by and large ignores wrestling. Anyone paying attention would have jumped all over her being involved with a multi-million dollar company that goes out of its way to avoid calling the people who perform physically damaging stunts "employees". Especially ones who are for all intents and purposes uninsurable due to their jobs as pro wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Also, for what it's worth, what was Linda's role in Titan pre-CEO? Executive vice president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30316.html Wrestlers lob past at Linda By ERIKA LOVLEY | 12/7/09 8:57 PM EST Connecticut senatorial candidate Linda McMahon is drawing the fire of her former employees, wrestling superstars of recent decades with a gift for trash talk. Linda McMahon’s political career is just getting started, but already her Senate campaign is drawing notice for the bruised feelings and even broken bones of her opponents: an angry group of famous pro wrestlers who once worked for her. Some of the biggest superstars of recent decades are aiming their gift for trash talk directly at McMahon, a Republican who is a co-founder and former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment. Several of the former wrestlers say they are nursing injuries from their years in the ring and are hoping to deliver a smackdown of McMahon for WWE’s lack of long-term health benefits and coarse, hype-driven image under her leadership from the 1990s until earlier this year. Now launched on a post-wrestling career, McMahon is seeking the Republican Senate nomination to face veteran Democratic incumbent Sen. Chris Dodd. Politics, say critics, already bears too much resemblance to professional wrestling, and now Connecticut voters are being treated to a debate about pro wrestling itself. For years, WWE’s shows were marked with blood, violence and female wrestlers who stripped down to their lingerie during matches. McMahon’s detractors range from Bruno Sammartino, a crowd favorite known as “The Living Legend” for his exploits in the ring in the 1960s and 1970s, to Chyna, a popular late-1990s female wrestler who later appeared on the cover of Playboy and wrote a best-selling memoir. “If there is a race to Capitol Hill, I hope she gets knocked off before she even starts,” Chyna, whose real name is Joanie Laurer, said in an interview with POLITICO. “I would not vote for her because I know what she contributed to the wrestling world with her husband,” said Sammartino. “The vulgarity, the nudity, the profanity, all that kind of crap — it bothers me.” “If the people in Connecticut are stupid enough to elect Linda, that’s their problem,” added Larry Zbyszko, a onetime Sammartino protégé who debuted in the early 1970s but later battled him in a famed “steel cage” match at Shea Stadium in New York. “I wouldn’t want to waste the time or money.” Marvelous Marc Mero, sometimes known as “Wildman” or “Johnny B. Badd,” also told POLITICO he would never vote for McMahon. None of McMahon’s detractors, however, are sharper in their criticism than one of the best-known and most influential professional wrestlers of all time, “Superstar” Billy Graham. “This campaign is the height of hypocrisy,” said Graham, whose real name is Eldridge Wayne Coleman. “I believe the voters and citizens in Connecticut deserve to be told the truth. In no way does she have a rightful place in the U.S. Senate. The fact that we were out there experiencing trauma and drawing in untold millions for the company [means] we should have at least had some sort of health insurance.” So far, McMahon’s WWE background — and the criticism she’s faced from wrestlers — has not affected her trajectory. Since joining the race in September, she’s climbed in the polls to the second place behind Rob Simmons, the GOP front-runner; McMahon even leads Dodd in a head-to-head matchup, according to a recent Quinnipiac poll. In recent weeks, two GOP hopefuls have dropped out of the Senate contest to pursue other seats. The WWE and McMahon’s campaign have dismissed Graham as a disgruntled former employee who has been a heavy drug user and is upset about no longer being on the payroll — even after his retirement. Graham was under contract with the company from April 2004 until April 2009, when he was released with severance pay. “Billy Graham is a source with complete and total lack of credibility,” said Ed Patru, McMahon’s campaign manager. WWE’s lack of health insurance is at the heart of the wrestlers’ grievances. They allege that McMahon and her husband, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon, ran a billion-dollar company that provided no health insurance for the wrestlers who put their bodies on the line to help turn the WWE into an international phenomenon. The issue is of no small concern for the former athletes, a number of whom are battling debilitating injuries or ailments related to their careers in the ring. As independent contractors, pro wrestlers are not offered health insurance or pensions from WWE, according to several of the former stars and industry experts. Even former Minnesota Gov. and retired wrestler Jesse Ventura, during a media appearance this month, said that the WWE was a “joke” and “still in the Stone Age” because the wrestlers lack union protection. While much of the action in the ring is staged, pro wrestling is nevertheless physically demanding and exacts a heavy toll: Former WWE wrestlers say they are suffering from degenerating joints and back issues and have required hip reconstructions and nose surgeries, among other things. A number have been unable to secure health insurance. "We’re the guys out there sacrificing ourselves. You’d think they’d throw us a bone. Sometimes you wondered if they saw their employees as humans or farm animals,” said Brian Heffron, who wrestled as “The Blue Meanie.” “It was like being in the circus. You’re shipped here, perform there; it’s almost like you’re disposable.” All of the wrestlers interviewed for this story said they knew no health insurance was offered when they signed deals with WWE. Many admit they didn’t think of the long-term problems. The WWE argues it paid the wrestlers plenty of money, which could have purchased insurance. Heffron, who was seriously injured in a 2005 match, says many of his medical bills were covered by the WWE — which often covers in-ring injuries. But he later racked up an $80,000 medical bill when part of his lung had to be removed because of infection. Charity helped him cover some of the bills, but the costs were still steep. At 36, he manages a video store and pays health costs out of pocket. Graham, a longtime champion whose style inspired future stars such as Hulk Hogan, has had six hip replacements, leaving him with a limp and in need of a handicapped-parking sticker. He used to regularly sell out Madison Square Garden. He readily admits that years of steroid and painkiller abuse very likely compounded his health problems but also helped him prolong his career by hiding injuries. “I was a pioneer,” Graham said. “I used and abused steroids. It was absolutely part of my regime and my look that skyrocketed my character.” Graham had to delay an interview with POLITICO while he was in the hospital suffering from a bowel obstruction — a side effect of a liver transplant, which he needed after contracting hepatitis C from another wrestler’s blood. He explained that wrestlers were often urged to cut themselves with razor blades to make their injuries seem more lifelike. Graham says his goal is to rally a coalition of wrestlers aimed at defeating McMahon’s campaign. He’s vowed to live the summer in Connecticut campaigning for Simmons. A website to attract more wrestlers to his anti-McMahon cause is already in the works. Graham concedes that the WWE helped him with medical costs from time to time, paying for at least one of his hip replacements, caused by degenerating joints from steroid use. McMahon’s campaign manager said the Simmons campaign needs to be transparent about Graham’s connection to the campaign. Graham “has promised to campaign for Rob Simmons. People deserve to know if the campaign is using him as a surrogate or if they’ll decide to disassociate themselves from him,” Patru said. The Simmons campaign denies rallying Graham or other wrestlers against McMahon. “He has personal witness to Linda McMahon and the WWE management and he has a First Amendment right to state it,” said Simmons campaign manager Jim Barnett. “This is a wrestling match between those two. But I haven’t seen anything that specifically addresses his charges. They only say he has no credibility. They didn’t address the alleged exploitation of women, the preponderance of steroid abuse or encouraging wrestlers to use razor blades to cut themselves open.” At least one wrestler is defending McMahon: former “WWE Diva” Dawn Marie Psaltis, who runs a charity called Wrestlers Rescue that raises money to help uninsured wrestlers pay for their medical bills. Psaltis says the WWE has helped her publicize the group’s charity work. Wrestlers knew about the lack of insurance when they signed their contracts and shouldn’t be upset, she said. Psaltis likes the idea of McMahon as a lawmaker, even though Psaltis filed a lawsuit against WWE after she became pregnant and her contract was terminated. “I think she’d be awesome,” said Psaltis. “Even through the worst of relationships, I’ve had to respect them. They are great business people who work with all types of people.” It’s that business acumen — something none of McMahon’s critics deny — that the former WWE CEO hopes to leverage in her Senate bid, without bringing too much attention to the over-the-top theatrics and sex that have marked some WWE events. McMahon even participated in some of the skits. Old videos show her kicking a wrestler in the crotch and getting body slammed. On her campaign website, McMahon’s radio and television advertisements don’t mention the WWE by name; they only acknowledge her leadership of a “successful business.” Her message is that she’s a fiscal conservative who helped grow a billion-dollar, publicly traded company. In one campaign video, McMahon details the family-friendly developments WWE programming has made over the years. The rating is now PG, rather than TV-14. “It’s energetic, it’s entertaining, it’s music, it’s pyro, it’s pomp and it’s circumstance. It’s what keeps people interested in the product,” she said in the video. Edit: Also, you have to love the comments: I will believe which ever side admits pro wrestling is fake , some of the violence is real , but as a sport competion - FAKE . Who should you believe someone who particpated as a contestent in a fake sport or someone who helped promote a fake sport . Bruno Sammartino for example never worked for Vince and Linda McMahon. He retired in 1981, at that time VInce McMahon's father owned the company (Vince bought it in 1982) So let me get this straight...wrestlers, who by their own monikers were made "superstars" by this lady's company, who made tons of money doing what they do, who probably had endorsement deals coming at them right and left as a result of their fame, who signed contracts knowing that there was no health insurance, who as independent contractors were THEIR OWN EMPLOYERS, who admit to using performance-enhancing AND illicit/illegal drugs, who in some cases posed for Playboy (and had action figures, for Heaven's sake)...are now complaining that they were somehow mistreated by the company. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 UK Sun article on Linda, covering the Politico article, as well as an interview with TheHill (also linked in the article) were she responds, and also talks steroids and Wellness Policy. Oh yeah, and stuff from our friend Irv: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...-WWE-names.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 It's ironic that the only person defending Linda in that Politico article is Dawn Marie Psaltis who was fired from WWE for being pregnant and had to sue the company for unfair dismissal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I can honestly say after all this time that I still don't understand what role Linda played in the expansion of the WWF out of the Northeast, and what her day-to-day duties were prior to the company going public. Vince was securing TV deals, stealing syndication from territories, blocking other promotions out of buildings in the biggest markets, etc., so what was Linda doing? Saying she was "on the business side" when all of those transactions were "on the business side" doesn't really answer the question. I know her title, but I don't know her job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I know she ran the WWF Magazine in the 80s. I believe she even wrote (kayfabe) articles under an alias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 She bought a travel agency for the company to do business through and took on other clients for regulatory reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 This little timeline is too precious: 1. Obama records a generic 'good job, men' message that can be played for the troops and used by a variety of sources. 2. WWE uses said message for the Tribute to the Troops show. 3. WWE claims that this is a ringing endorsement of the company by the administration. 4. Linda's campaign does likewise. 5. The administration politely smacks them down for the overreach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Meltzer said WWE issued a rebuttal press release claiming that they DID get a custom Obama clip via proper channels but I can't find it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2009/2009_12_17.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 3. WWE claims that this is a ringing endorsement of the company by the administration. 4. Linda's campaign does likewise. Just what a Republican candidate wants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Yeah... I don't know what she's thinking. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 That press release is pretty funny. They don't deny that it's a generic clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 McMahon claims to be be the lead: Linda now leads Rob in a head-to-head matchup, 37%-35%, and she holds at least 20-point leads in each of the all-important 3rd, 4th and 5th Congressional Districts. Rob Simmons has yet to articulate a compelling argument for why voters should choose government experience over real-world business experience, http://linda2010.com/blog_64.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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