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--The new Quinnipiac University poll on the Connecticut senate race shows a huge shift in just the last few days. Apparently voters have already forgotten about the Richard Blumenthal remarks. In polling taken on Monday and Tuesday, and released last night, Blumenthal holds a 56-31% lead over Linda McMahon. The McMahon campaign blamed the poll, claiming it was "curious and perhaps odd."

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Did the party really believe WWF was to blame for Gore's loss, or was that just a Keller theory?

We'd have to dig back in his thread, but Keller's theory wasn't that the WWF was to blame, Keller's theory was that a parody article he wrote in the Torch was to blame. Seriously.

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Dave Meltzer swears that he's talking to relatively high ranking members of the Democratic party who were infuriated by it and thought it was possible given how close Florida was.

High ranking Dems were wrong on 2000 left and right. As they were in 2002 and 2004. Same jackasses who said that the Dems needed to run strong in the deep south in 2006 and 2008. Dumb fucks, and if Dave is actually beliving anything they had to say about 2000, he's naive.
Whether it's true or not (I'd certainly lean towards "not", it sounds pretty silly) seems to be less important in this case than if Washington insiders believe it was true and how it might affect Lieberman's image. Probably not much, it seems like a trivial little thing compared to all the other shit he's been involved with, but ya never know.

 

Another weird wrinkle if Lieberman backs Linda. If I remember correctly, wasn't Lieberman one of the few outspoken, well-known celebrities belonging to the Parent's Television Council? The very same group which spent years trying its damndest to financially harm World Wrestling Entertainment. I don't remember if they ended up doing any serious damage, but they did convince at least one or two sponsors to drop the WWE as a client.

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I truly doubt that *Lieb* thinks the WWF cost him a shot at being VP. As in 0.00000000000000001%. Regardless of what "high ranking members of the Democratic party" are blowing up Dave's ass about 2000.

 

Take a step back. What had more impact on the outcome of the 2000 Election:

 

1. Nader being on the ballot

2. WWF

 

It's not close. Remotely close. Same galaxy close.

 

Florida (25 electoral votes)

2,912,790 Bush

2,912,253 Gore

97,488 Nader

 

New Hampshite (4 electoral votes)

273,559 Bush

266,348 Gore

22,198 Nader

 

How many Nader voters would have voted for Bush? They basically fell into two camps:

 

* vote for Gore

* stay home

 

Look at those numbers. Even if *most* Nader voters stayed home, Gore needed only a small % to show up to vote for him. 32.5% of Nader voters in NH... 0.6% (!) of Nader voters in FL.

 

Before anyone points to Pat Buchanan being on the ballot:

 

Florida

97,488 Nader

17,484 Uncle Pat

 

New Hampshire

22,198 Nader

2,615 Uncle Pat

 

He wasn't a factor: he didn't bleed from Bush in remotely the fashion that Nader did from Gore.

 

Nader was hardly the only reason Gore lost. It's a laundry list. But on that laundry list, the WWF's impact doesn't have a pot to piss in.

 

Those "high ranking members of the Democratic party" were just blowing smoke, either playing to Dave's pro wrestling-centric vanity or grasping for straws for things to blame the loss on. It didn't pass the laugh test then, nor now. It's the political equiv of "a good diet", which was something Dave would laugh at when a juiced up wrestler explained why his body had changed for the better recently. Dave doesn't have as good of political radar as he has juice-dar. ;)

 

John

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'The WWE "is both her asset and her liability," said Dave Meltzer, editor of the Wrestling Observer, an industry newsletter. "If you look at it strictly as profit and loss, it's very positive. If you view it in human terms, it's negative."'

 

"The workforce bears the entire risk of steroid and prescription drug abuse," said Irvin Muchnick, an author who follows the company and has been critical of its drug policies. "Steroid abuse is a function of standards WWE has set for talent."

 

-from the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal

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That's not the sort of thing we're likely to see be made a big deal of. A little too 'inside baseball', and all she'd say is "what, because I'm a woman you don't think I'm qualified?". At the very least, the Blumenthal campaign would be unlikely to raise it, and the media probably isn't going to because it would require too much arcane WWE knowledge.

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Wikipedia says co-founder and business manager, though I don't know how accurate that is. Torch archives about the job shuffling at Titan Sports in May 1993 don't specify her previous title and says it was merely a cosmetic change.

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From the 6-7-1993 WON

 

Vince McMahon resigned as President of Titan Sports approximately two weeks ago in a major news item that has been largely kept hush-hush. McMahon, who was both President and Chief Executive Officer of the largest wrestling company in the United States, apparently had company control transferred to wife Linda McMahon a few weeks ago, either on or just before 5/14. Vince McMahon remains CEO of Titan Sports and will remain as a television personality. Titan has not publicly released this information in press release fashion, although several sources within the organization have admitted it was true and the public relations department has confirmed the story. Aside from the obvious speculation regarding this somehow being tied to the ongoing federal investigation, no other details or significance is known. It was already reported elsewhere that on 5/24 in Halifax, Nova Scotia, there was a production meeting in which Vince McMahon, who has been President of the company since taking over for his father in 1982, told employees that Linda was now in charge of the company and also acknowledged the federal investigation. However, from the outside, there doesn't seem to be any significant change in the operation of the company and many employees of the company weren't even aware of the switch in the company presidency as late as press time.

 

The only attempt at press coverage regarding this was a press release item by Titan sent on the New York Times Wire Services that to the best of our knowledge, didn't run in any newspapers, which didn't mention any change in the organizational presidency ... Linda, whose title as Executive Vice President of Titan Sports before this change in title, was, according to one Titan source, theoretically on an equal power footing as the other company Vice Presidents and this put her unequivocally as more powerful. Linda McMahon, according to the wire story, was credited with putting in a day care center at the Titan offices with toys with wrestling themes, developed community relations programs and credited her with the Headlock on Hunger campaign and being on the committee for the 1995 Special Olympics.

And the 6-8 WON

 

The resignation, or transfer of titles, or whatever the correct terminology regarding the presidency of the nation's biggest wrestling company from Vince McMahon to wife Linda has caused rampant speculation, especially with the timing of the change in regard to ongoing Grand Jury testimony and activities. Titan spokesman Steve Planamenta caned the change more of a transfer of titles, not a resignation, and tried tp downplay the changes. "It's not as big a deal as people are making it out to be," he said. "People are reading things into this that aren't there." Planamenta described the activities of Vince and Linda McMahon as that Linda has largely been running the business end of the company and Vince has been in control of the creative end. Hence, the title switch simply formalizes what has been the case all along. There is a large measure - of truth to this definition of Linda McMahon's background. Linda McMahon, whose official title was Executive Vice President of Titan Sports, has always been a key party on the business and legal end and her involvement in Titan Sports goes far beyond simply being the wife of the President of the company. However, the timing of this title switch given what appears to be going on in the legal front makes it hard to believe the two items just coincidentally are taking place at the same time and are unrelated. Apparently Vince McMahon, at the production meeting in Halifax on 5/24 when announcing the change, made a comment about it being the year of the woman, and when acknowledging the investigation, said that he knew he was under investigation but had no idea why. Vince McMahon also gave the impression that son Shane, who is 22 or 23 and has long been groomed as the heir apparent to run the company, win be taking a more prominent role in the company's hierarchy .

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