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WWE own Watts' tapes but these matches still happened in the Sam Houston coliseum in Paul Boesch's NWA Houston Promotion. Watts & Boesch had a deal where Houston was supplied Mid-South talent for it's Friday shows along with other people that Boesch would bring in outside of the Mid-South roster. The weekly TV in Houston was a mix of Mid-South TV and Paul Boesch interviews & highlights of the Sam Houston coliseum show from the week before.

I don't know, I'm an 80s mark but I would take Bret/Austin over all of those.

And with that comment I had to check out Gino vs. Ox. This starts with Gino wearing a shirt that say "I broke Jose Lothario's arm" while he talks trash on the house mic about how he's going to break Jose's neck on the 19th. Jose comes out from the back and attacks him and rips off the shirt! They brawl for a bit and then Ox Baker comes in while the referees are trying to get Jose out of the ring and now he's on Gino before the match officially starts. The crowd is anything but sympathetic to Gino's plight. That punch where Ox pulls Gino out of the corner by his tights and then punches him in the stomach to drive him back in is cool and someone needs to steal that. I don't know if I would say Ox is "better" than Ivan but he definitely seemed to try harder in this match than Ivan did. This is a pretty fun match although I enjoyed the Jose/Gino pre-match stuff more than the match itself. Maybe I should finally get around to watching that Jose/Gino Texas Death Match.

Just watched the Gino Hernandez vs. Ivan Putski match refereed by notorious Southwest referee/jobber Juan Reynosa! I actually enjoyed this for what it was, but I wouldn't recommend it. There is a whole lot of "nothing" going on for large portions of this match with Gino avoiding Putski. But I enjoyed the story of "Ivan is too strong for Gino to put any holds on" so I still dug this. The finish was pretty awful though which definitely keeps me from recommending this when the match itself is already very borderline.

Just watched Andre the Giant vs. Tank Patton which I'm pretty sure is from 1/2/81 based on the Houston results thread. This is a lot of fun, Andre is still fairly mobile here and it's fun to watch him bully the big Tank Patton around. 2 out of 3 falls and Andre wins the first fall by DQ after Tank uses his cast. Pissed off Andre in the 2nd fall is awesome to watch. If you're an Andre fan (and you should be) then you will enjoy this.

I would much rather watch two 10 minute *** matches over a **** match that goes 20.

shoe I think the Butch Reed vs. JYD Ghetto Street Fight match is new? I have only ever seen it clipped up.

It's just more evidence that Dixie Carter really doesn't "get" wrestling.

This is another guy I have to put in the Roman Reigns category where I think it's quite likely he'll be a top 100 wrestler in a few more years but right now there just isn't enough on the resume. He's done an amazing job of growing as an overall performer since getting called up from NXT, where I don't think anyone was really raving about his work. Since then it's been about 16 months of him getting better seemingly every month. He's been presented as a tough brute heel since his debut but he's somehow one of the best guys at long term selling and appearing vulnerable at the right moments. His matches with Cena weren't as good as what I was expecting but he seems to have rebounded quite nicely now with the recent triple threat on Raw and the Cesaro match from Smackdown. If he keeps improving the way he has so far, he could end up being an all time great. If he just stays at the level he is now, he's still going to be pretty darn good.

Unless Ryback is going to be gone over 2 months, I don't see them pulling the IC title off him considering that JUST happened. Unless he has a really awful staph infection I would imagine he should be back within 4-6 weeks.

I just watched the Butch Reed vs. Kamala Lumberjack match that was on the new update. This was a really good match, much better than their other match on the site although the finish still kind of sucks. But they kept it short and sweet and Butch Reed's comeback on Kamala was white hot. Butch Reed "lays those wallops in" indeed Mr. Boesch. I realized at the end that I'd seen it before on a Butch Reed comp so it's not new but I enjoyed it on 2nd go round.

Ok, I just edited it in. I thought there were 9 but could only find 7. They moved all the interviews into the matches section for some reason.

I can understand them fighting back against people trying to run shows near WrestleMania & SummerSlam. But the thing about trying to lock ROH out of certain arenas seems like way more than that.

Here is a list of all the matches that are currently up. Bolded Items are matches not in circulation. Dates will be added as soon as we source them. Andre vs Tank Patton 1/2/81 Barry Orton vs. Lanny Poffo 5-25-84 Bandolier Death Match: Hector & Chavo Guerrero vs. Ted Dibiase & Dr. Death Steve Williams 7/12/85 Barbarian John Nord vs. Shawn Michaels 3/22/85 Barry Orton vs. Dr. Death Steve Williams 6/8/84 Two Ring Battle Royal 12/27/84 Brad Armstrong vs. One Man Gang 3/22/85 Buddy Landell vs Butch Reed - Shoe Shine Match 12/27/84 Butch Reed vs. Dutch Mantell 7/26/85 Butch Reed vs. Kamala 7/12/85 Danny McShain vs Bull Curry 3/17/1961 Cage MatchTed DiBiase & Dr. Death Steve Williams vs. Hector & Chavo Guerrero 7/26/85 Nightmare vs Dick Murdoch 7/26/85 Dick Murdoch vs. Al Perez 10/11/85 Funks vs Lothario/Mascaras 1/7/79 Jim Duggan, Junkyard Dog & Tito Santana vs. Butch Reed, Krusher Krushev & Nikolai Volkoff 1/27/84 Dusty Rhodes vs. Mark Lewin 1/7/79 Fantastics vs Eddie Gilbert/Jerry Grey 7/26/85 Gino Hernandez vs. Bob Markus Gino Hernandez vs. Ivan Putski 2/6/81 Gino Hernandez vs Ox Baker 1/7/79 Gino Gernandez, Gran Markus & Killer Tim Brooks vs. Jose Lothario, El Halcon & Mil Mascaras 6/29/79 Hacksaw Duggan vs Ted Dibiase 11/9/84 Iceman King Parson vs. Dale Veasey - 1/18/85 Jake Roberts vs. Terry Daniels - 3/22/85 Jake Roberts & Nord the Barbarian vs. Brickhouse Brown & Mark Reagan 7/26/85 Jake Roberts/Duggan vs Nightmare/Lord Humongous 10/11/85 Texas Death Match: Gino Hernandez vs. Jose Lothario 1/19/79 Kamala & Kareem Muhammad vs. Jim Duggan & Cowboy Bill Watts 7/26/85 Kerry Von Erich vs Gino Hernandez 12/27/84 Kevin Von Erich vs. Chris Adams 1/18/85 Krusher Kruschev vs. Jay Youngblood 6/8/84 Magnum TA vs Butch Reed 8/31/84 Mark Reagan vs. Pat Rose 5-25-84 Nick Kozak vs. Bull ramos 1/7/79 NWA Title Match: Harley Race vs Andre 1/7/79 NWA Title Match: Terry Taylor vs. Ric Flair 5/3/85 NWA Title Match: Ric Flair vs Wahoo McDaniel 7/12/85 Rematch: NWA Title Match: Wahoo McDaniel vs. Ric Flair 7/26/85 Rock N Roll Express vs. Buddy Landell & Masao Ito 5/25/84 Rock n Roll Express &Hacksaw Duggan vs Dibiase/Doc/Hercules 12/27/84 Rock N Roll Express & Jose Lothario vs. Hector & Chavo Guerrero & Buddy Landell 1/18/85 Sonny King vs. Masao Ito 6/8/84 Superstar Graham vs Tiger Conaway Jr. 1/7/79 Ted DiBiase vs. Bob Sweetan 10/11/85 Wahoo McDaniel vs Terry Funk / Wahoo McDaniel vs. Gino Hernandez (2/6/81) Terry Taylor vs. Dr Death Steve Williams 3/22/85 Vicki Williams vs. Leilani Kai 1/7/79 Fritz/Kerry/Kevin Von Erich vs Dick Murdoch/White Knight/Gary Hart Waldo Von Erich vs. Dory Dickson Steve Williams vs Hector Guerrero 10/11/85 Interviews: Wahoo McDaniels talks to Joe Blanchard about his upcoming NWA Title match with Harley Race Wahoo McDaniels interviewed by Paul Boesch about his football career Tully Blanchard interview w/ Paul Boesch Scott Casey interview w/ Paul Boesch Gino Hernandez interview w/Paul Boesch Andre the Giant interview w/Paul Boesch Chavo Guerrero interview w/Paul Boesch - Chavo gives Boesch some hot sauce straight from the Guerrero kitchen First update: Little Tokyo vs. Little Coco 8/18/85 Gino Hernandez vs. Nick Kozak 9/8/78 Dusty Rhodes & Sweet Leroy Brown vs. Gary Hart & Killer Karl Krupp 9/8/78 Lumberjack Match: Kamala vs. Butch Reed 3/22/85 Loser Leaves Town Tuxedo Cage Match w/Coal Miner's Glove on a Pole: Ted DiBiase vs. Jim Duggan 3/22/85 Butch Reed vs. Eddie Gilbert 8/4/85 Rock N Roll Express vs. Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death Steve Williams 5/3/85 Rocky Johnson vs. Bruiser Brody 9/8/78 Updates Ric Flair vs Magnum TA 6/28/85 Bounty Match Kerry Von Erich vs Kamala 5/3/85 Ghetto Street Fight JYD vs Butch Reed 6/22/84 Hacksaw Duggan & The Rock n Roll Express vs. Ernie Ladd & The Midnight Express 6/8/84 Dog Collar Match: Junkyard Dog vs. Butch Reed 7/20/84 Scaffold Match: The Rock n Roll Express vs The Midnight Express 11/23/84 Terry Taylor vs Jake Roberts 4/19/85 Tony Atlas & Junkyard Dog vs. The Dynamic Duo 10/8/82 The Fantastics vs Bill Dundee/Dutch Mantell 8/4/85 Fantastics & Jim Duggan vs. Midnight Express & Jim Cornette 7/20/84 Brickhouse Brown vs. Dr Death Steve Williams 4/19/85 Hector & Chavo Guerrero vs. Jose Lothario & Al Madril 7/20/84 Tom Prichard vs. Tim Horner 4/19/85 Bunkhouse Brawl Battle Royal 1/24/86 Dick Slater vs Jake Roberts 1/31/86 Rock n Roll Express vs Dirty White Boys 3/22/85 Brad Armstrong vs Jack Victory 4/19/85 Magnum TA vs Ernie Ladd 8/3/84 Funks vs Wahoo/Putski - 1/23/81 Larry Lane vs Chavo Guerrero - 1/30/81 Tank Patton vs Scott Casey - 1/30/81 Mil Mascaras vs Mr. Hito - 2/1/80 Lou Thesz vs Wild Bill Logdson 50's Brass Knuckle Champion Dusty Rhodes vs Superstar Billy Graham 1/4/80 Tully Blanchard vs El Bracero 12/11/81 Atlas vs Tanaka - 3/28/80 Tom Prichard vs. Buck Robley 12/11/81 Ivan Putski vs Abdullah The Butcher 3/6/81 The Grappler vs Tiger Conway Jr. 12/11/81 Moon Mulligan vs Scott Casey 12/11/81 Hector & Chavo Guerrero vs. The Fantastics 8/3/84 Legends Battle Royal 6/29/79 Black Gordman vs Jose Lothario 1/13/84 Butch Reed vs Tito Santana 1/13/84 Terry Taylor vs Krusher Kruschev 7/6/84 Buddy Landell vs Al Madril 7/6/84 Buddy Landell vs Jose Lothario 8/3/84 Hercules Hernandez(Mr. Wrestling 3) vs. Mr. Wrestling II 7/6/84 The Pretty Young Things d. Pat Rose & Hans Schroeder 7/6/84 Steve Williams vs Terry Taylor Andre vs Stan Stasiak 10/31/80 Mark Lewin vs. Gary Hart loser gets painted yellow. Keamuka, Kalmikoff & Bollas vs. Gunkel, Savage & Lisowski Killer Brooks/Viuda Negra vs Tiger Conway Jr./ La Bella Karina Ernie Ladd vs Brad Armstrong 12/27/84 Tim Horner vs Rip Oliver 12/27/84 Billy Jack Haynes vs Kamala 12/27/84 King Parsons vs Jack Victory 12/27/84 Guerreros vs Fabulous Ones Texas Tornado cage match 2/28/86 Hacksaw Jim Duggan vs Skandar Akbar 9/13/85 Butch Reed vs Nord the Barbarian 9/13/85 Mexican Death Match: Hector Guerrero vs. Jose Lothario 6/8/84 Taped Fist Match: Ted DiBiase vs. Hacksaw Duggan 3/8/85 Ric Flair vs Butch Reed 8/11/85 Wendi Richter vs Princess Victoria 2/10/84 Rip Rogers vs Johnny Rich 7/29/83 Ron Garvin vs Missing Link 7/29/83 Terry Taylor vs Nikolai Volkoff 2/10/84 Chavo Guerrero vs Jesse Barr 7/29/83 Terry Taylor vs Tom Lintz 1/27/84 Guerreros vs Lothario/Taylor 12/27/84 Butch Reed vs Jim Neidhardt 1/27/84 Butch Reed vs Jim Neidhardt 2/10/84 Butch Reed vs Jim Neidhardt Football Helmet Match 2/24/84 Masao Ito vs Lanny Poffo 2/10/84 Midnight Express vs Fantastics 8/31/84 JYD vs Barry Darsow 2/10/84 Midnight Express vs Mr. Wrestling 2/Magnum TA 1/27/84 Black Gordman vs Omar Atlas AKA Buddy Moreno 2/10/84 Wahoo McDaniel vs Ichiban 11/10/78 Bill Dundee vs Adrian Street/Miss Linda 11/23/84 Magnum TA vs Ernie Ladd 11/23/84 Nick Bockwinkle vs Nacho Barrera Nick Bockwinkle vs Ricky Hunter Spoiler vs Wahoo McDaniel 4/21/79 Jake Roberts vs Steve Casey 5/3/85 Hacksaw Duggan/Butch Reed vs Ted Dibiase/Steve Williams 11/23/84 Adrian Street vs Johnny Mantell 10/12/84 Tom Prichard vs Mark Ragin 5/3/85 Dutch Mantell vs Terry Daniels 5/3/85 Debbie Combs vs Prissie Purcell 5/3/85 Greg Valentine vs Tiger Conway Jr. 4/6/79 Hacksaw Duggan vs Butch Reed 8/12/83 Dusty Rhodes/JYD vs Kamala/Ted Dibiase 8/12/83 Double Bull Rope/Double Dog Collar match. Dirty White Boys vs Brickhouse Brown/Tony Torres 5/3/85 Hacksaw Duggan vs Nikolai Volkoff cage match 5/11/84 HacKsaw Duggan/Terry Taylor vs Nikolai Volkoff/Barry Darsow 4/6/84 Mr. Wrestling 2 vs Grappler 2 11/19/82 Harley Race vs Gino Hernandez 12/12/80 Chavo Guerrero vs Bobby Jaggers 11/19/82 Grappler vs Tiger Conway Jr. 11/19/82 Ernie Ladd vs. Mike "Grenade" Boyer 11/19/82 Midnight Express vs Magnum TA/Mr. Wrestling 2 loser gets 10 lashes 2/24/84 Bobby Fulton vs Eddie Gilbert 10/11/85 Tommy Rogers vs Dutch Mantell 10/11/85 Mil Mascaras vs Masked Superstar 5/27/83 Tito Santana vs Gran Marcus 5/27/83 Steve Williams vs Terry Gordy TX Death Match 2/6/87 El Cosario vs Wendell Cooley 10/11/85 Tommy Rich vs Kamala 7/29/83 Freebirds vs Terry Taylor/Missing Link Valet Penalty Box Match 2/20/87 Steve Williams vs Angel Of Death Chain Match 2/20/87 Hacksaw Duggan vs One Man Gang NO DQ 8/8/86 JYD vs Butch Reed 7/29/83 Rock N Roll Express vs Jake Roberts/Barbarian 6/28/85

I don't really understand that point of WWE going after ROH though. I mean it's not like they haven't benefited from ROH being around. The only thing I can even think of is if this is like a Vince experiment to see if HHH is capable of doing a "head to head" promotion war with NXT vs. ROH.

Current list of matches I have watched from NWAClassics.com that I have watched and whether I would recommend checking them out Ted DiBiase vs Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Loser Leaves Town, Tuxedo Cage with Coal Miner's Glove On A Pole Match - You should buy a subscription just to see this match! Buddy Landell vs Butch Reed - Shoe Shine Match - I can't recommend this enough for all the post match stuff. Some of the most enjoyable wrestling "BS" you'll ever see. If this doesn't make you laugh out loud then....well it damn well SHOULD! Little Tokyo vs. Little Coco - I am a mark for midget matches from the 80s but I still think this should be enjoyable for everyone. Watch this. Rock N Roll Express vs. Buddy Landell & Masao Ito - This is a really fun RNR Express match. It's formula but their formula was great and Landell & Ito make an interesting team. Butch Reed vs. Dutch Mantel - Great performance by both guys even if the match was only good. If that makes sense. Still definitely worth your time. Mark Reagan vs. Pat Rose - This is actually a pretty darn good match. Watch this to see how good Pat Rose was at getting 7 minutes out of a green babyface that someone wanted him to make look good. Dick Murdoch vs. Al Perez - Another match where a veteran gets a good match out of a young guy who might not be that good. I enjoyed this, I would say it's worth the 8-9 minutes of your time. Sonny King vs. Masao Ito - I enjoyed this although it was a bit slow at times. I like Masao Ito and Sonny King is perfectly acceptable here. Borderline but I still would recommend it. Magnum TA vs. Butch Reed - I'd like to recommend this one to you, but I can't. Just not enough meat in this match for how long it was. Butch Reed vs. Kamala - I usually like these two against each other but after Reed kicked his ass at the beginning this one just felt like one long Kamala nerve hold. Finish stunk also. Not recommended. Jim Duggan, Junkyard Dog & Tito Santana vs. Butch Reed, Krusher Krushev & Nikolai Volkoff - I was so hype to see this match. It's really not very good. It's elimination style and all the eliminations kind of suck. I think that's everything I've seen so far. If you want me to watch a match that's up and review it shout them out. I have only watched 11 matches so far but I already feel like I got my $9 worth for the month and as you can see, it's not like I have been picking the biggest main event matches to watch.

I would argue that Brock DID need that rub because he didn't have the same aura he has now before he beat Undertaker. He kind of did when he first came back but he got watered down with the loss to Cena and the shitty HHH feud.

That's a very well done troll then, especially the stuff about the letters.

If they had not stop-started with Drew McIntyre and continued him along his "Chosen One" path then he's a guy I think could have benefited from retiring Shawn Michaels but the timing was off because he hadn't been around long enough by WM26.

I agree with you that it would be nice to see that but it really requires special circumstances and I'd rather see Shawn Michaels retired by The Undertaker than have them rush someone into that spot who wasn't ready and have it negatively impact their career because they have to face a crowd backlash. I mean look at how many problems Roman Reigns has had just from winning a Royal Rumble that people wanted Daniel Bryan to win. That's not even close to the scale of the backlash that I think would have happened to a young guy who had retired HBK or ended Undertaker's streak.

I think the "not too many" part isn't the reason that wrestling has a tough time creating new stars. When I asked how many times has it actually happened, I didn't just mean WWE. Even in the territory days top stars usually just wrestled until they didn't have gas left in the tank, there really aren't any "young gun retires an old star" scenarios that I can think of off the top of my head. It feels like an idea that's gotten idealized in people's heads as the way everyone should retire but it's not like there's really much of a precedent.

I think people discount the idea of a fan backlash in that situation. Everyone idealizes the young guy retiring the old star but how many times has it actually happened?

It was more that he was still so drunk on the ECW kool aid that he had to come back to represent the 3 letters despite the fact that it really wasn't much of a continuation especially after the first few months.