Mad Dog

The Sheik vs. Andre the Giant would probably interest you. There's a Sheik vs. Mark Lewin match on the Wrestling Gold DVD set that was an important feud in it's day. I don't know about the big Sheik vs. Brazil matches though. I'm sure those are pretty interchangeable and awful.

Yes! I was just about to post this.

Yeah, that seems to be pretty much a lock at this point. I enjoy him but it does surprise me a bit. He doesn't seem like the body type they typically like.

I find that Sabre Jr. routinely disappoints me and that his "technical" work leaves a lot to be desired. It feels like a lot of his submission holds go nowhere and he's just grabbing body parts for the sake of being technical. He's pretty much being a spot monkey by using grapple fuck all the time. I actually like him better in multi mans where he can't get into the grapple stuff and has to keep a better pace to his matches. Also, he could stand to eat a cheeseburger every now and then and put on a couple of pounds.

The same happens in anime too. This post on another forum sums it up well. https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/835/why-do-some-anime-in-japanese-contain-english

I wonder if Keith Lee has or is about to sign with NXT. He's dropped all of his belts the last couple of weeks.

It really doesn't change my opinion either way. For this thread I was merely pointing out that her treatment wouldn't be universal and some women saying it didn't happen to them means that it didn't happen. You take away that aspect and she's still a piece of shit and shouldn't have had a battle royal named after her.

I think it needs to be taken into consideration for the Yes chants making their way to the Giants and the Islanders. Especially with the Islanders fans, as I would argue there is a strong crossover with their fans and WWE fans.

I wanted to comment on the snobbish/elitist thing here. I have run into the same attitude when trying to get people to come over here and I think to a large degree, they are kind of right. I think there is a baseline elitism here that leaves a bad first impression. But I think there is also a certain self awareness and humor to it that doesn't communicate to newcomers. On shodate. I just move right past his posts because of how terrible his grammar is.

Matt Riddle vs. Shane Strickland got posted for free on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=824a3k4asyM

It's also been my experience that there is a huge crossover between wrestling and sports fans.

I liked his tag team with Snuka.

I kind of feel like Verne Gagne is more historically underrated than Atlantis. With Gagne, we have footage of the bad years and his poor decisions and of an old man still putting himself over. Most people haven't gone out there and found the 1950s Chicago stuff where you can see him at the top of his game. He was to Chicago what Bruno was to New York and I feel like he doesn't have that same level of prestige with a lot of people.

Yep. We're all not spending any money on it...

I think we've all asked that question. If you go back to that Royal Rumble match, the crowd absolutely died when he won that match. They had about a 3 month window after he won the title off of Benoit and they blew it.

HHH was death as a main eventer.

I hated that feud with Jimmy Valiant until I rewatched that stuff a few years ago. The matches still sucked but I enjoyed that there always felt like there was a degree of danger to their encounters. The injuries they inflicted on each other really made it interesting. The Paul Jones promo after Valiant broke his arm was good stuff.

What do you think are the biggest exemples of Hardy's drawing power? He was the headliner at Royal Rumble 2008 and it did fairly well buyrate wise.

Jeff Hardy. He was part of a huge act in that 2000-2002 time frame. He also came back and was absolutely a massive star in 2007 and 2008. His loss at the Royal Rumble was a huge blunder on their part as he needed to win the title there. Here is the difference. The ultimate test here is. If I started asking people who Daniel Bryan was and who Jeff Hardy was, I would get a lot more replies for Jeff Hardy. It is kind of funny that both were derailed for awhile by one of the hundreds of failed Orton pushes.

Look how long it took to really expose something like Scientology.

It speaks to how terrible Coach is that people are excited to have Booker T back.

I said this earlier in the thread and it needs to be repeated. If you came to Moolah and you had a family and a strong social support network, chances are you were going to be fine. She isn't going to abuse you if your family is going to find out and expose you. If you came in with no family, you were prime for being taken advantage of. People like Moolah aren't stupid. Part of the scam is recognizing who are your marks and who poses a threat to you.

So basically she's saying because Moolah had a stranglehold on women's wrestling, and froze out women who weren't part of her stable people should have been just happy they got what they got? Okay. This is a sincere question, so please do not take it as hostile. Is there anything she or one of Moolah's contemporaries could say that would change your mind at all? You didn't ask me but I will answer. No. Just because she didn't abuse some people doesn't change things like the Sweet Georgia Brown story. Like I said earlier, systematic abuse endangers the scam. If she was only pimping 10% of the women that came through her school, she's still a fucking scumbag.

Sometimes just letting them talk does more damage to their conspiracy theories than anything else.

Yeah. The gauntlet is 75% of the episode and then a Kazarian/Takahashi match that's pretty paint by numbers.