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How long are the episodes generally? I can't imagine they let them go for 4-5 hours like they do on the podcast.

Curt in the Horsemen really could have revitalized the group, to a point where I can see them getting popular in the WWF strongholds. He just became another guy in the NWO and wouldn't do anything else of note other than the West Texas Cowboys gimmick.

Any chance they'll put up whole shows eventually? I'm trying to think of what could go there that wouldn't exactly fit anywhere else on the Network.

Probably because Scott Norton knew his role and didn't try to outdo Bagwell at his own game.

Being that the news broke on a Monday, the timing was extraordinarily bad for WWE. The first thing I knew was that they were all dead, from reading the headline on the company's website. This is just before Twitter and everyone had Facebook, so news did not travel as fast as it did now. If those avenues were as widely available and accessible in 2007 as they are now I have a feeling the news that it was a murder-suicide would have gone more widespread and perhaps before the show that night even aired. My memory of it is that I heard inklings from legit press about the whole mess, just after the show ended. Part of me thinks, and maybe especially now when the company is on the cusp of making a legit fortune from their TV deals, what would be the response if a tragedy or something on that level of controversy happened. Because back then my impression was that it was going to hurt the company deep and nobody would ever look at the business the same again. Yet I couldn't be more wrong about it as I sit here typing this out a decade later.

Did Flair and Gordy ever go one-on-one?

His role on Ballers is pretty serious, at least compared to his movies. Unfortunately the show itself is not on par with being something that can lend itself to taking his acting more seriously, but it's some of the best on-screen work he's done so far. I thought he was brilliant in Pain & Gain.

He was 2nd billed to Denzel in the Magnificent Seven remake too.

At least there's going to be consistency, as opposed to just throwing them on once they're ready which as been their MO with putting a lot of the old stuff on.

I think Cena's going to get huge. He's gotten some good notices lately, mainly for supporting roles but I think he'll be able to carry something himself soon enough.

And Dwayne has been a producer for some years now, which means he has a foothold on the other side of the business too. That said, Dave is making much more interesting choices, working with more creative directors, and seems to have genuinely embraced acting by not taking the obvious route.

The one on the 1997 Royal Rumble is pretty fascinating in terms of the actual business of promoting the event and everything they did to fill the place up.

Flair said on his podcast that he paid people to rip up Hogan merch on camera. That's brilliant as both shoot and kayfabe.

Watching it now, it's clear he was a heel from the moment Finkel introduced him. And I just watched the portion of the Ken Burns documentary where it talked about how the Reds/Sox series of '75 was so heated it made baseball popular again, getting some enormous TV ratings. Kane was a top heel, but this came off okay. If it were anyone above him doing it, it would have sent mixed signals certainly.

Bruce Prichard confirmed on his podcast that Flair was to be a surprise guest for the Brother Love segment on the SummerSlam '88 show. I can kind of see how that works into leading into a main event with Savage on the same show. Build up a mystery opponent for Savage, and have the new heel personality say that it will be revealed by him on the night of the show.

Road Warriors turning on Dusty in '88. Major missed opportunity there. It would have made everything the character did before look more funny if you knew it was a con-man screwing with people.

Maybe they start an hour early?

Ted had to wait 11 years

I think clips from the match are on the last episode of Saturday Night from the batch they put up last month. I wonder how today's good financial news will affect the Network.

Bruce said on his show that there was talk about bringing him back as "Bobby Heenan, Jr." to manage Ric Flair, since Heenan was done managing and only broadcasting by this point. Ultimately Vince didn't like the idea, given his history with not liking "Junior". They could have gotten around that by just calling him Bruce Heenan. He also said just before he left Global to go back to the WWF, WCW threw out an offer to make him Steve Austin's manager.

Yeah, someone put it up on reddit last week. It's the one where he's bleeding so much some commenters made Kool-aid jokes which weren't that far off.

One of the underrated highlights of the Attitude Era for me is when McMahon's group beat up Boss Man and he was thrown out, and the next week he came out during the middle of a Vince interview (I think), to his old music. He ended up begging forgiveness to be brought back in but for however long that music played I was really excited we were getting the old Bossman.

1. Hogan 2. Warrior 3. Jake 4. Brutus 5. Dusty

I think that's what it was, Bill mentioned something about it without spoiling it during his podcast with the director. For some reason I thought the painting was from some old angle Bill remembered watching old WWF. I know people are giving Shoemaker crap for his contributions, and I'm not above some of that either. But the part of the movie I most identified with was when he talked about the childhood discussions of Hogan/Andre and how it was treated by him and his friends as something huge as Ali/Frazier. I came of age a little later, but I had those same discussions when I was a kid too (and I guess we're still having them now, not unfazed by the knowledge predetermination of it all).

On his recent appearance on the Masked Man podcast, Bill Simmons and Shoemaker made a big deal of Pat Patterson's suede painting in the background shown during his interview, a reference I didn't quite get. Can someone explain it's significance to me?