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You're right. People who love wrestling in a huge variety of forms and generally praise WWE are just desperately trying to be cool by hating on this show. That's exactly it.
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I'm well and truly mystified by some of the praise for this show (on Twitter, not so much here). Even the stuff I liked, such as Bellas and Rusev-Show, felt minor key. The potentially exciting lower-card matches underdelivered, even if they weren't bad. And the big matches were dull in the case of Cena-Orton and genuinely off-putting in the case of Rollins-Ambrose. Overall, the show left me the lowest I've been on WWE in years.
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Oh fuck this.
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I must be crazy, because I think this sucks.
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The double bump came off as such a contrived attempt to evoke HBK and Foley. Ugh.
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This is not off to a promising start.
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That was pointless; leaps and bounds below the Bellas match.
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Flat finish to what had been a good match.
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I really liked that Dylan Thomas video game ad.
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I thought Dave reported Lesnar isn't working Survivor Series, unless they call an audible. Did that change?
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Question, Joe: Do you actively enjoy the back-and-forth elbow battles in New Japan? Or is it more like you accept them as part of a style you like overall? I ask because it seems those strike exchanges irritate a lot of the skeptics about modern New Japan (and yes, they irritate me, even though I'm enjoying the promotion overall). But I'm unclear if those who truly love New Japan also love that aspect of the style.
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Agree with this. Taue produced some great moments in NOAH. I just watched the 9/18/05 tag with him and Kobashi against Akiyama and Tenryu, and he was arguably the best guy in it.
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Well yeah, wouldn't be healthy to have too strong a moral compass in this town.
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I actually think Taue vs. Akiyama will be an interesting call for me. I would've said Taue was the no-brainer choice for years, but Akiyama has managed to keep it going for so long now and has produced excellent matches in a lot of sub-optimal settings. We'll see. But I've said often in the '90s threads that Taue-Kawada was the great underappreciated rivalry of early '90s All Japan. Parv, you guys could do a whole show on their matches and eventual partnering.
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I've felt perfectly comfortable watching Benoit for years now, and he'll do well on my list, though I wouldn't try to sway anyone who feels the opposite. Obviously, he's not a guy we'll get a clean read on in terms of where he rates. And that is what it is--nothing to be done about it. Invader, I don't think twice about, because I never attached any emotion to that situation. I wasn't the right age and knew Brody only as an abstract figure from the Apter mags. But generally, I'm similar to Parv on this issue. I don't struggle to separate the art from the artist. And I don't have a lot of interest in feeling outraged.
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Nakamura has the best shot at my list of the current NJ guys. He might not do the 30-minute epics as often (or as well) as Tanahashi, but he has been compelling in a wide range of contexts over the years. The guy is just interesting to watch, with the unusual way he moves around the ring and his offbeat intensity. The Sakuraba and Ibushi matches were two of my favorites from last year, and I've enjoyed him in what I've seen of the 2014 G-1. His ultimate placement will depend on how much I like his early career stuff and how many more great performances he reels off off over the next 18 months.
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[1998-08-30-WWF-Summerslam] Jeff Jarrett vs X-Pac (Hair vs Hair)
Childs replied to Loss's topic in August 1998
I enjoyed the Fink stuff. Otherwise, this was a perfectly fine undercard match that never really hit a third gear. This Jarrett run never clicked for me. -
[1998-08-29-BattlARTS] Yuki Ishikawa vs Alexander Otsuka
Childs replied to Loss's topic in August 1998
I liked this, of course, because I love these two guys. But I'm not sure it will stand out from the pack of really good BattlArts matches. Otsuka was super-fun as always, transitioning from nifty submissions to a tope con hilo. And Ishikawa threw some badass punches to the ribs to break up the matwork. I also liked the way he flipped out of an Otsuka suplex attempt and hit a sharp enzuigiri to set up the finish. So yeah, lots of cool stuff here, even if they didn't hit that transcendent level of Bat-Bat violence. -
They did a super job making me want to see Akiyama vs. Ogawa. I loved the way both guys had eyes only for one another and the way Ogawa seemed a tad incredulous that he'd pinned Jun. Everything else felt pedestrian, but that hardly mattered.
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I think I liked this better than either of you guys, though I agree with the general criticism that they were just doing moves without a ton of meaning. I also didn't really understand the pairings. But I guess what redeemed it for me somewhat was the force with which they hit their shit. If you're going to give me an empty vessel, at least throw it at me as hard as you can. Wagner, especially, brought some real violence to his big moves. I don't know; this is just relativity praise. If Chad gave it 2 1/2 stars, I'd probably give it 3.
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I went back and watched after sleeping through this part of the disc the first time through. And boy was this cool. It could have been a real disaster but instead, they used the room absolutely perfectly. I loved the swinging kicks from the overhead pipe and the finishing spot where Owen put Shamrock's head through the ceiling. It was just over the top enough. And yes, Owen's ability to do this kind of match with Shamrock spoke to his immense talent.
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Yes, but mercifully, the tape version is clipped.
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Solid match for sure. I know some people have argued Luger's work in this period should help his case to make a GWE list. Not sure I saw anything that made me feel that, though he was certainly game enough. But Bret worked with a lot of intensity, showing how much he had to offer, even after eight months of ridiculous undercutting. This blew away everything from the PPV two days earlier.
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[1998-08-09-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] The Undertaker vs Mankind
Childs replied to Loss's topic in August 1998
WWF was taking a bit too large a page from WCW with this fake Kane shit. -
1998-08-08-WCW-Road Wild] Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff vs DDP & Jay Leno
Childs replied to Loss's topic in August 1998
I felt bad for the announcers, having to sit there and put over Leno. Ugh. On the other hand, Kevin Eubanks looked like he could have worked a decent few minutes. I didn't really get Goldberg's motivation in coming out. He had never been portrayed as that type of character. But whatever. No use trying to find sense in all this madness. Again, it's amazing they thought fans would remain loyal, given these types of matches as PPV main events.