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That stuck out in my mind the most. I'll probably skip over that end part once I get to it again. I felt sorry for Wight looking like a green fool trying to cut this seemingly pre-planned promo while everyone else is screwing it up for him. On that note I never got anything like that out of it either. That the other NWO guys were messing it up for him or that he was pissed about it. Hogan summed up the main points in like 30 seconds better then the he was doing anyways "We got a hold of the Giant and straightened his head out. Brother everything I showed you can be yours. Wanted a part in Arnold's new movie? Got it for ya. All the houses, all the cars, your's brother". Really didn't need the 5 minute speach the Giant was trying to give to get that across. One other thing not mentioned yet, I really liked that the final shot of the night was the Dungeon of Doom carrying Randy Savage to the back with the yellow streak painted down his back. Cool little moment
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Gonna have to go with Daisuke Sekimoto as i've pretty much considered him the best wrestler in world over the past couple of years.
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Agree about Mongo although I did find him countering Bubba's slide out of the ring uppercut with a straight arm punch to the nose to be pretty damn cool. The rest of this was just as great as I remembered. I agree with the above sentiment of fuck neat, nice, well executed, well spoken perfection, i'll take wild, crazy, sloppy, raw, stumblin over your words chaos any day. A little part of me is sad watching this through "2011 eyes" though. In this day of over analyzing shit WAY too much all I could think when Sting & Luger destroyed a limo, shoved a policeman out of the way and stole a fuckin cop car to chase the limo was how in the hell did they get out of a lengthy prison sentence? Watching it live as a young teenager I was jumpin up & down in excitement and thinking "holy shit that's awesome" and calling my mom at work to tell her how cool it was....I miss those days.... Oh, also kinda sucks...I guess.....looking back knowing that, ya know, like 1/3 of the ppl involved in this are dead and another 1/3 are broke, divorced and or crippled...... stupid adulthood.....
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Just watched Regal vs Luger 8/31/96 for the TV title which was surprisingly good. On paper it seems like a style clash to me but they made it work, helped by the fact that Luger seemed really motivated. He mixed it up with Regal doing some low level chain wrestling and arm drag spots that I wasn't exspecting early on, mid match he took a giant beating and he was pretty fired up for his comeback too before Hall & Nash run in to cost him the belt.
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AJW TV 3/11/1993 - Kyoko Inoue & Takako Inoue vs Suzuka Minami & Etsuko Mita Really nice sprint, full of all the usual fast paced, big move, near fall goodness. Suzuka got to play heavy hitter for her team and wipes out Kyoko on a couple ocasions in this but the story of the match is W Inoue having better teamwork. Every time Suzuka or Mita would get a little something going one of the Inoue's was right thear to cut em off and take back controll of the match. After a nice string of stuff leading up to the finish the Inoues eventually get the win with their combo choke slam/niagra driver on Mita. About 10 mins out of 18 aired. Good stuff. - Aja Kong vs Yumiko Hotta Interesting match, full of all the things you'd exspect. Lots of hard hitting strikes, brawling and smash mouth action. At the same time, a bit more one sided then you'd think as well. We only get to see 7 mins of 16 and what airs is largely Aja kicking ass, pounding Hotta down, draging her all over the building, etc.. What small bits of offense Hotta gets in only comes after either attacking Aja from behind or being able to dodge one of Aja's moves and counter with her own. Finish comes when Aja blocks a Hotta kick & coming back with a stiff uraken right to the forehead and followed by her diving back elbow to end the match. Not as great as what they'd do a year later but this was still pretty enjoyable. Not a total squash but still did a good job putting Aja over as a monster. - Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs Sakie Hasegawa & Debbie Malenko Things started out quite nicely, their tag league match a few months back was one of the better matches in 92 and it seemed like they were on course to have another really good one until Debbie gets injured 7 or 8 mins into things. She was catching Toyota on a dive, nothing special, your standard cross body but Debbie plants her foot wrong and snaps her ankle badly on the landing. Bit hard to see if you're not looking for it because it happens so fast, I re-wound the dvd to see if I could spot what happened and I actually really wish I hadn't now. The angle Debbie twist & then snaps her ankle at was nearly as bad as what happened to Sid. Really uncomfortable to watch. Toyota tries to continue the match but Sakie quickly realised something wasn't right and gets her off her pretty fast. After what felt like forever but was probably only a few mins they get Debbie to the back and they decide to have the match continue 2 on 1. They go another 5 mins or so a good portion of which ends up being a disaster with tons of blown spots and awkwardness but you honestly can't blame them for not being into it after what happened earlier. Yamada puts an end to things with the diving enzu kick. It'd be over 8 years before Debbie would show up in wrestling again, making a 1 time return for Sakie's retirement show in ARSION. Undercard Highlights Shimoda over Numata in 12:30 Bat & Watanabe over Ito & ? in 20:30
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You should be able to find the listing somewhear on here http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/WCWresults.htm
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Always thought this was a fun match with Shawn bouncing all over the place. This was his first match back after turning face if I remember correctly he looked like he was having a blast out thear. Always got a huge kick out of the spot whear he slides out of the ring and puts his arm around Dibiase all buddy buddy like. Was disapointed they neved did anything with the Nash/HBK/Bam Bam trio, atleas that I remember.
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Hamada's UWF Vol 7 Comp - 1990 - 1993 Joshi 11/10/1990 - Kaoru Maeda & Mika Takahashi vs Xochitl Hamada & Esther Moreno Bit of a weak follow up to the match the day before. More just a standard tag match with Moreno & Hamada going for fast paced flippy stuff and the Honey Wings slowing it down with mat work. Near the end team luchadora have a bit of miscomunication and get in a shoving match after accidenly hitting each other. Kaoru & Takahashi take advantage and are able to finish off Xochitl pretty easyily after isolating her. Takahashi gets the W with a big superplex. 11/12/1990 - Kaoru Maeda & Mika Takahashi vs Xochitl Hamada & Esther Moreno A mix between their previous two matches. Like the first match it starts pretty hot with Kaoru & Mika again running out to jump them then when things settle down we get a long matwork section. Bit hard to focus at times due to the camera angle but this is a 21 year old fan cam so beggers can't be choosers. Moreno & Mika are really good during this part. The action picks back up once the lucha girls get in a big series of highspots , they miss a pair of dives outside which leads to some pretty nice brawling around the building for a while. Back inside we get a little more matwork before going into the finish which is a bit of a repeat of the last match only this time it's Moreno eating a giant double superplex. Post match Hamada goes nuts on Moreno beating her down with a chair, the Honey Wings leave at first not caring but Hamada keeps beating her down, including giving Moreno a tombstone on the chair until finally Kaoru & Mika begrudgingly make the save. Damn good match, bit of a toss up between for which is better, this or the first but I slightly lean towards 11/9 however. Sadly there's no footage of any Hamada vs Moreno singles matches that may have come out of this as i'm sure that'd be a great pairing opposite each other. 3/7/1991 - Mariko Yoshida vs Sakie Hasegawa This was ok. They only got 8 mins so kind of a cliff notes version of what they could do as they run through the usual. Little sloppy in a few spots which hurt the momentum of the match too. Near the end Sakie goes for a diving cross body and somehow catches Yoshida in the nose on the way down busting it open so they go to the finish pretty soon after that. Sakie goes for a suplex combo but Yoshida reverses out and hits one of her own to win. 3/7/1991 - Noriyo Tateno vs Kaoru Maeda Crowd was hyped to see Tateno as this was a little over a week before she was set to retire. They did a few nice spots in this, crazy suicide dive from Kaoru and Moreno dead lifting Kaoru up by the hair into a big slam were two of the highlights. Beyond that and a few other things they didn't do much else of interest. They went to a draw and even at a measly 10 minutes it still suffered from a lot of the same issues that plauge those types of matches. 3/8/1991 - Noriyo Tateno & Sakie Hasegawa vs Mariko Yoshida & Kaoru Maeda Bit better then either or their individual matches the day before. Kaoru & Yoshida get the early advantage and I dug the leg work with them going after Sakie's knee. When Tateno & Sakie gain control they don't fare quite as well. They get Kaoru in for an exstended beat down but every time it looks like she's gonna be in any real trouble Yoshida is thear to watch her back and make the save. All through the rest of the match Sakie keeps selling her knee from earlier which was a nice touch and eventually they go back to attacking it. Tateno gets the win out of nowhear with a surprise cradle on Yoshida. Fun match up until then. 3/9/1991 - (Special ref Kaoru) Mariko Yoshida vs Sakie Hasegawa No clue why Kaoru is on ref duty tonight, bigger mystery is why the heck they had her wearing a garbage man's uniform to do it in. Essentially they do 5-6 mins of really basic low level stuff then all of a sudden Yoshida nearly kills herself on a suicide dive outside, landing bad as her head goes splat on the concrete floor. Miraculously she appears to be ok, enough to continue the match atleast which wakes the crowd up and a big Yoshida chant ensues. They don't go too much longer however and back inside they imediatly switch it into high gear with a bunch of counter sequences that sees Yoshida come out on top, again reversing something of Sakie's into a pin for the win. Last few mins were good but before that pretty average. 5/24/1992 - Mariko Yoshida vs Mima Shimoda K, this is more like it as we skip ahead a year and are now in the middle of Yoshida's run as one of the best wrestlers in the world. Story early on sees them take it to the mat with Shimoda focusing on Yoshida's arm. As always, Yoshida does a great job putting it over not only while on defense but continuing to do so while on offense. She drops an elbow but it only serves to injure her own arm, she goes for a boston crab but doesn't have the strength to hold on to both legs so has to switch to a half. Great little things like that make her stand out as one of the best. For a while the match turns into a Yoshida showcase as she goes on the attack for a bit. Shimoda hits a lot of really nice flying clotheslines during the comeback which she always does but tonight they looked better then usual. Switching things up she starts going for a bunch of leg lock submission attempts now. In another cool little touch she locks in an ankle lock and when Yoshida tries to push up out of it Shimoda reaches over and punches her in the gut to shut that shit down. Like a lot of Yoshida matches that i've noticed, in the end things come down to them dodging and countering a lot of each others moves, lots of athletic back and forth stuff. Really puts over Yoshida as the type of wrestler who wins by outsmarting her opponents. Damn good match, i'd say this is just a notch or so below the great match Yoshida would have with Shimoda's partner Mita a month or so later. Really played to both girls strengths well. 5/7/1993 - (CMLL Women's Title) Xochitl Hamada © vs Kaoru Skipping ahead another year, Kaoru had droped the last name by now and had started working in the mask as "Infernal Kaoru". No major highlights in this, just a good solid match with Hamada mostly dominating and Kaoru fighting back ocasionally. Not enough in the end as she gets powerbombed to hell as Hamada retains.
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Wally Yamaguchi in Gran Hamada's UWF from early 90's is up thear with the worst refs ever i've decided. Gets in the way, ruins the flow of matches, screws up finishes and plays way too fast & loose when it comes to when he will and won't enforce the rules with the worst example being not allowing a tag that takes place right in front of him and then allowing like 2 straight mins of 2 on 1 beat down from the other team.
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Bambi was an AWA chick previously. Sexton was one of those journemen types who'd been around a while a bunch of diffrent places. Her biggest claim to fame was being the first LPWA champ around this time. WCW briefely tried to start up a woman's division in 90/91 but it never amounted to much other then that's how Madusa got hooked up with them.
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Don't get what the point of that would be, are there really that many ppl reading the Observer newsletter that would actually care about what Alan says about Indy Wrestling or Sims says about Lucha but aren't allready listing to their weekly radio aperances or reading what they write elsewhear?
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Vader, Austin, Bunkhouse Buck, Jericho & Christian Bret, Adrian Adonis, Slaughter, Inoki, Takada Owen, Backlund, Austin, Bulldog, Nash
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I think 2008, maybe 09 was probably the time I followed WWE heavily but I remember very little about it off the top of my head. Wrong link, that just takes you to a youtube clip of the Umaga/Hardy match
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They had several in 03 & 04 and they've gotten a bit mixed up in my head. I recall them all being pretty good but looking through old results real quick I think the major one i'm thinking of is their 04 tv match on Smackdown whear they got like 20+.
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Not sure I could come up with a full 5 for Scorpio but Sabu would be one of them atleast. Yeah I considered Jericho too & Angle. Punk, Michaels & Taker were the only 1's who immediatly come to mind for me when I think of what Cena's greatest matches are however, the rest I had to think about for a minute.
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The later I meant
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In no particular order Punk, Taker, HBK, Edge, Orton The 1st 3 are pretty much responsible for the best matches of his career
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Hi Smarks Choice Alan does a good job with his forum but the majority of the threads tend to be about modern day Indy & Japanese wrestling with a little bit of Lucha & WWE talk mixed in. Karl Stern does a good job with the classic wrestling forum too but it doesn't see much activity. Dave and Bryan for that matter rarely post in either. Reminds me that these days it seems to be really hard to get Dave to respond to random general knowledge type questions like you're describing unless you get Bryan to ask the question on one of the radio shows and if Bryan doesn't like you or have an interest in/like the question there's little chance it's gonna get asked. I tried 3 times (once asking Dave directly twice sending it in to the mailbag) to get Dave to talk about The Matsunaga's & Jimmy Hart as HOF candidates and never did get an answer so i've pretty much given up at this point.
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One of the funny occurances that happened after the merger was Bryan creating a moderated wrestling section (the one Alan is in charge of now) at Dave's insistance and everyone thinking he he wouldn't want to bother with the rest of the forum. Then after it was created, Dave largely ignored it and usually spends all his time now posting responses like the one shawmic quoted on the previous page in unmoderated parts of the board. ......*sniff*, we miss you Strangler Corleone
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Guessing Alvarez is too scared he might lose business over it. "The Board" is something he's used quite a bit (not as much lately however) as one of the selling points of the site and he'd always bring up ppl telling him they subscribed just for that part of it. I think it's the biggest shit hole ever myself but I will ocasionally post in the Radio & old school sections as well as Alan4L's since those are the few that aren't 100% swarming with trolls and idiots on a constant basis. Plus it gives Bryan & sometimes lately Dave too the excuse to brush off any legit criticism they may get as coming from trolls or ppl who just don't "get it"
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Dunno who's selling it but it's up on youtube if anyone wants to check it out.
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[1995-04-21-AAA-Sin Limite] Rey Misterio Jr vs Juventud Guerrera
FLIK replied to Loss's topic in April 1995
The Rey vs Juvy matches in 95 were some of the first lucha I ever saw back when I was first exsposed to non US wrestling years and years ago, I recall being really disapointed by their AAA stuff after hearing so much hype for it. I'd allready seen them wrestle in ECW & WCW by this point and didn't think their Meixico matches were nearly as good. Wonder if my opinion would change any if I went back and watched now. After this and a few other things I saw early on I kind of developed the opinion for a while that luchadors weren't nearly as good in a lucha setting as they were out of it (which I no longer think but still) -
Been too many years since I last watched this to give a detailed opinion but I def remember liking it a lot though I wouldn't give it MOTY either. Their best singles to me is no question the 8/94 match and I think the late 99 one is up thear too and probably the last legit great match Kyoko had. As a rivalry I always thought they brought out the best in each other though it probably did deliver more often in their tags then anything else.
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