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It was all downhill for Vince after he lost his infamous hair to Donald Trump!

Glad Muertes is back & the new golden mask looked cool... but he didn't feel like he was in the best ring shape if I'm being honest.

Coincidentally, I made this exact point on Twitter five hours ago. Is it height, weight, both? How tall? How much weight? Is The Undertaker a big man? Hulk Hogan? Mark Henry? No one would argue about someone like André the Giant or The Great Khali but what about Kane or A-Train? Shit, half the roster in the WWF 80's was big men. We talking about the likes of The Warlord? If you start putting criteria on it, suddenly guys like King Kong Bundy or Bam Bam Bigelow might not even qualify.

I would probably be the high vote on Scott Norton & One Man Gang in that one too! Bam Bam was awesome in ECW but that was mostly booking. He had a good bad ass aura about him which they didn't really capture in either WWF or WCW. I like Big Van Vader but I wouldn't vote him above The Undertaker I don't think, anymore. I don't know. I did in GWE I think. EDIT: Just checked, had Vader #11 (he has def dropped for me in the past five years) and Taker at #30 (and he's def went up)

Alexa Bliss teleporting on a swing set Pee-Wee's Playhouse style until The Fiend comesback maybe with a different clown mask & even bigger mallet this time!

If we're lucky, maybe they can bring back THE ANIMAL BATISTA and Evolution can ride again! But then, oh no, here comes The New Age Outlaws & X-Pac with HBK The Heartbreak Kid, Mr. Wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels! Now The Game, the Cerebral Assassin, the King of Kings... has to choose where his loyalties are! Does he choose Evolution or DGeneration-X!? What's that? *glass shatters* My God! It's Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Texas Rattlesnake! The Bionic Redneck is asking Hunter if he wants to bring back the 2-Man Power Trip! OH MYYYYY what is HHH going to do?? We'll be back, as WWE Monday Night RAW rolls onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

This is an interesting take. I would like to hear more about why you feel this way. If the goal was for Brock to win to give more of a rub to Roman... why not just have Roman be the one to beat 'Taker, like they ended up doing anyway? Maybe they feared it would give Roman backlash & make him a heel? Which... he currently is & is showing that it was probably the thing they should have done a long time ago. Brock didn't need the streak. He already had credibility. And if they wanted to make him the huge megamonster they did, why did they have him lose to John Cena in his first match back? WWE constantly shoots themselves in the foot. And sometimes still manage to limp to the right direction by accident anyway.

That's actually really shocking to me. I guess I just assumed with less people watching & attending, less people would be spending. So are the remaining fans just buying more to make-up for the less people or, how does this work? That's crazy.

Is WWE too big to die? In my life time I have seen a lot of pro wrestling companies come & go. The one constant has always been WWE. Now they're publicly traded & seemingly bigger than ever. But Vince McMahon is going to die during my lifetime - more than likely - and I have no idea what that will mean for the future of the company going forward. They've removed house shows entirely & currently have no paid attendance. So I imagine that has also tanked merch sales. You can pretty much get WWE Network for free, so they're not even really getting PPV money anymore. It feels like all of their eggs currently exist in the TV contracts basket & 1. TV is a dying medium & 2. they're definitely not going to get those huge contracts again with the way the ratings have been going & how bad the advertising money for wrestling shows is. And I believe the Saudi deal is over as well so that money also is seemingly gone? So... what's the business strategy going forward, as the wrestling company does everything it can do to not be a wrestling company? Triple H going to take it over with Steph & try to convince shareholders that it'll still be the same well-oiled, money-making machine? I feel like they need to do something big & drastic with the WWE network soon. Might we see WWE become solely a WWE Network product without anymore USA or FOX involvement in the future?

You got me there

I can't. I can't even watch it. It completely kills the shows & the nostalgia for me. It's not as bad, but watching old WCW shows & seeing them dub over the WCW themes with the WWE versions is also a shit sandwich. I hated that Taz talked all over it but it did show how much of a difference a real song makes. Jungle Boy seems like a genuine, cool dude, so I'm happy for him. I hope more is to follow for other stars. It's another way AEW could differentiate themselves from WWE, too. Don't give every single person a generic rock song. Part of what made buying into Mark Henry more believable to me, after all the Mae Young shit & what not, was him coming out to Three Six Mafia. I felt like it gave him credibility. Look how much of a difference it made for C.M. Punk when he switched from that shit scream rock song to Living Color. NWA Power using Dokken initially was cash too for the vibe they were going for. Completely changed when they switched to Pantera imo. Man. I'm really fucking bad about seeing a reply & then responding to the thread before reading the rest of the replies first. Most of these points are already made but still.

It turned out to probably be a blessing in disguise as the PPV went off the air when they ran late or some shit but I thought DDP should have beat Goldberg with the Diamond Cutter at Halloween Havoc. It might have hurt DDP though, as mentioned earlier. Hard to know for sure. Kevin Nash didn't just end the streak of Goldberg & then do the Fingerpoke bullshit with Hogan but he also ended the Streak of Wrath and won World War 3 on the way. The whole thing was dreadful. That completely killed Wrath too when he was getting pretty over with his Meltdown finish. Having a good finish is a BIG deal.

This will have to go into the same category of "I don't see it" as Trish & Kofi being good as well, I guess. Other than I.R.S./Wallstreet there's not much I can think of more boring than the idea of a 15-minute Kane match.

Jay White leaving New Japan would be a damn travesty.

Please don't ever stop doing this. I just want to show my appreciation for taking the time & effort.

LOVED Shingo Vs. Cobb. Good, hard hitting stuff. My kind of wrestling there. Awesome. That's the Jeff Cobb I've been waiting to see again in New Japan. He disappointed me last year but he definitely brought it tonight. Even with the tired wrestling trope that is the strike exchanges rearing its ugly head again, I enjoyed this one a lot. The sound when Shingo hit the driving forearm to the back of Cobb's knee was good shit. Cobb has some freakish strength & I loved him during his Lucha Underground run as Matanza Cueto. Shingo is fantastic. That fucking pumping lariat that flipped him... my god.

I legit don't know how Chase Owens is a professional wrestler.

Literally turned RAW off after less than five minutes after starting the show with that New Day/Miz horseshit. Who the fuck thinks that's entertaining? Even kids aren't going to be into that shit nowadays. They have cellphones & YouTube.

This is fair. I will say, that as much as The Hart Foundation may be overrated to some, the Headshrinkers are super underrated to me. I would put them in that top list ahead of some of those teams. I'm also pretty high on The Nasty Boys but feel that may be a more minority opinion there. I do think that Bret's tag stuff is more of a positive for his case than a negative though, for sure.

Now seems like a good time to try. WWE doesn't feel unstoppable anymore. If anything, they feel complacent, even without the pandemic. Patterson & Briscoe are gone. Vince is older. They're publicly traded. Saudi looks to have blown up in their faces & their ratings are tanking. So now seems like a good time to try.. something. When are their Fox & USA contracts up for renewal?

Wiseman is going to be good. Great, maybe, even. If he develops & the Warriors get Klay back healthy while keeping Steph & Draymond, they're going to be title contenders again. As far as WWE is concerned, I heard tonight is another Legends gimmick. While NJPW is doing Wrestle Kingdom & AEW is apparently doing some sort of reverse territory thing & trying to get all the non-WWE promotions aligned & working together. Which is both crazy & something I never thought I would see in my lifetime. Wrestle Kingdom spoilers:

Admittedly I don’t hate the Great O Khan gimmick but the man playing it.. is not great.

I used to not dig him but Yano is a guilty pleasure for me anymore, honestly. Chase Owens though? That dude is the drizzling shits. Still.

I like Nick Aldis, but to me, he comes off - as Rob Van Dam said about Shawn Michaels - as if he is dripping with insincerity. Part of the reason why I was such a big Tim Storm fan as the NWA babyface was because he played his underdog, old man babyface so well. I believed him. I think Aldis is pretty good but I don't really believe anything about him.

Didn't expect to see this here! Tom Waits is my all-time favorite musical artist & I also got into him around 2004ish when I was turned on to him via a burned album, that my manager was listening to when I was working at a local pizzeria. Although for me, it was Small Change that I initially heard. Nighthawks at the Diner is also very special to my girlfriend & I & my personal favorite album of his is Mule Variations. Tom Waits' music is also responsible for getting me back into buying vinyl records.