JerryvonKramer

Since every news source I've seen reported that Snuka was acquitted, I thought I'd look up what the word means. I don't have any legal training so I wasn't sure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquittal In the common law tradition, an acquittal formally certifies that the accused is free from the charge of an offense, as far as the criminal law is concerned. This is so even where the prosecution is abandoned nolle prosequi. So when the charges were dropped, he was in effect acquitted. Which is presumably why every newspaper reported it that way, and since he was never found guilty in court, it was presumably why the WWE ran the tribute. Like I say, I'm no legal expert, just a bloke with Google at my disposal.

You're not that dense, are you ? It is not about what you think. Nobody fucking cares. It's about showing a little bit of decency on the part of the WWE. Imagine if someone from the family had to see this "great tribute to a fallen hero of the dignified pro-wrestling family". For fuck's sake. It's embarrassing. In any other field, movie, legit sport, music or whatever, this stuff would have been eviscerated on social medias. (And as far as "rumour and innuendos" go, just go get some infos first instead of talking out of your ass. Your no-selling of Bix setting you straight was pretty typical of your unbearable attitude.) Leave it out

It's actually on the Ric Flair and the Four Horseman DVD, not the Ultimate Ric Flair one. Steel Cage Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship Ric Flair vs. Ricky Morton Great American Bash - 05/07/86 Seems like WWE won't allow it online, maybe it is on the Network?

Well it's not for me to say; I don't have full details, only rumours and innuendos, and the demand for retribution which is par for the course from any family who loses someone in tragic circumstances. Apparently, it is for you to say, so have at it.

I haven't seen this footage yet, but one match where I LOVE the presentation is Flair vs. Ricky Morton on the Ultimate Flair DVD. That really makes you feel like you are inside the ring. No commentary. Just amazing experience. I'd love more to see more footage shot like that.

I am not a judge or a lawyer or a polceman. I'm just a bloke. I have to have faith in the legal system to bring people to justice. This is called the rule of law. It's not really for me, someone who has literally nothing to do with these things, to deliver a verdict one way or the other in any of these cases. I don't see why people feel the need to as much as they do.

No one knew Nicole Brown Simpson or Ronald Goldman, that shouldn't make the disgust over OJ Simpson's lack of incarceration due to their murder any more appropriate. Or the smug satisfaction of karma getting his when he was sentenced on the memorabilia theft charges. I don't really care about any of these things. I enjoyed watching the OJ trial itself cos it was good TV. Some people like to reach for pitchforks whenever they can, other people just don't care. Chalk me up in the latter group. Just don't care.

Yeah, it never made much difference to me, but then I never had much emotional investment in Benoit, he wasn't my hero or anything, just "a good worker". I recall a lengthy discussion during GWE over Invader 1 and Carlos Colon which touched on some of this stuff also. I guess I just don't really care about what workers do in life. It's a scummy business.

I dunno, over time you spot patterns. The same people who are anti-Snuka were also anti-Hogan in the gawker case. Personally, I don't care either way re: Snuka. Maybe I lack empathy, but I'm more on the side of thinking: 1. It's none of my business and 2. As a fan, I can only really think about Snuka the worker, as opposed to Snuka the man and what he may or may not have done.

Here's a pretty good example, It's Giant Haystacks on They Think It's All Over, which was a sports-themed comedy show that went out in the late 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-kgnTNKh8 Gary Lineker (football star, tv personality, current host of MOTD) worked out that it was Haystacks after a minute or so. I guarantee you that he couldn't have done that with any other wrestler other than Big Daddy himself.

I don't know the ins and outs, I just know that people on the street can name Big Daddy vs. Giant Haystacks, but they can't name most other wrestlers from the era. Also worth noting that they weren't just name checked on those TV shows, they might have guest spots. Whatever the reality of the numbers, etc., the perception is that it was the biggest match. Similar to how someone like Geoff Capes might not actually be the strongest man in the world, but was certainly the most famous strongman in Britain, etc.

Daddy vs Haystacks is the sort of thing that would come up in passing in completely random contexts. Noel Edmund's House Party, say, or The Generation Game, or whatever. It's something in the wider cultural ether.

People do remember it. It comes up here and there. There's a big distinction between "old-time fans", and "the man on the street". My girlfriend mentioned in passing how she loved Big Daddy as a kid the other day. After reading your post we had this conversation: Me: Can you name any of Big Daddy's opponents? Or any big matches he had? Her: Giant Haystacks! At Wembley. Me: Can you name any other British wrestlers from that time? Or maybe any other opponents of Big Daddy's? Her: No I suspect I could walk down the street and have that same conversation over and over again assuming the people are over a certain age.

If I were a podcast guy, I think I would have a show about whether this match killed the territory. The two matches that old time British fans always talk about are the Kendo Nagasaki vs. Count Bartelli mask vs. mask match and the White Angel vs. Doctor Death mask match. People probably don't think of British wrestling when they think mask matches but Bartelli had worn his for 20 year when Nagasaki unmasked him and Doctor Death was a massive draw. Neither of these matches drew huge crowds by US or Japanese standards but the number of people who claimed they were there has grown exponentially over the years. The McManus vs. Pallo Cup Final Day match from '62 is another major match in British wrestling history and drew a huge television rating. People often talk about the night Prince Philip was at the Royal Albert Hall but that was more for his appearance than any particular match. If you're going to include Daddy vs. Haystacks then you should also include Daddy vs. Quinn from Wembley. I'm pretty sure Bert Assirati had some big matches back in the day. I know of one famous one against The French Angel Maurice Tillet. If we're talking about important matches then the success of the first TV show ought to carry some weight. The matches on that show were Francis St. Clair Gregory vs. Mike Marino and Cliff Beaumont vs.Bert Royal. The peak of the TV success was an episode in 1965 that drew 7.3 million viewers. The matches were Roy Bull Davis vs. Billy Howes and Johnny Eagle vs. Ken Cadman. Not the most famous pair of matches in British wrestling history but possibly the most watched. Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks is the one people remember most widely.

I don't know if you noticed, but he was acquitted. I know people want their pound of flesh, but seriously, why do you have any stake in this at all? Did you know Nancy Argentino? Literally why do you care? Leave this stuff to the courts.

It was Morton, got my wires crossed. I think Eaton was actually against the York Foundation and was a babyface for a bit there in 1991.

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Best Snuka matches I've seen: Bruiser Brody & Jimmy Snuka vs. Dory and Terry Funk (12/13/81) **** Dory Funk Jr. and Terry Funk vs. Stan Hansen and Jimmy Snuka (4/16/82) ***3/4

Assume you mean Shibata vs Goto here?

Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks, June 18th 1981, Wembley

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For others I've seen, assuming 4 stars is the cut off, I'd be NO on Yehi vs Henry (3.75) and NO on Okada vs Omega (3.75) YES on Naito vs Tanahashi (4)

I'd like to see Shibata vs Goto represented, even if everyone says no.

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