Yo-Yo's Roomie

I'm doing this at the next show I go to for the absolute worst wrestler on the show, Don't give them more reason to keep pushing Orton.

This is what I said about the Cena/Khali match: John Cena Vs The Great Khali: This was my first time seeing this match, and I always wondered about the praise it got, and people saying it was a legit great match, and citing this as proof that Cena is an all-time great and what have you. So I was kinda expecting to be disappointed given the hype, but I really wasn't. I mean, I don't think it's a great match, but it is definitely a good match, and definitely a great Cena performance. He really makes Khali look like a monster with his selling and bumping, and the timing of the comebacks, the cutouts and the general layout are all excellent. This very much reminded me of a Hogan-type match, where Cena is basically getting his ass kicked the whole match and just building to that comeback. But the finish is more of a lucky one than what you'd get in a Hogan match, and Cena sells that sense that he's fortunate to survive really well too. Yes, I enjoyed this match a lot. I gave it 3 1/2 stars. I'm really tight with my ratings, so 3 1/2 is a very good rating. I also don't think Cena is a superworker, and would say he probably has as many bad matches as good ones. Just for a sense of context.

I wish in general people would stop arguing points made on other boards on this board.

I think a lot of the time there's this perception that in NXT, these guys and girls have more of a creative outlet, and can express themselves more, whereas on the main roster you're very much put in a box of 'this is who you are and this is your position', and there's really little opportunity to fight out of that. That's probably where a lot of the talk about people being buried comes from, rather than in the traditional sense of people doing jobs. Although I should say, and maybe it's because this and DVDVR are the only wrestling boards I read, that really the only time I hear about people being buried is when someone is pushing back against the idea that someone is being buried. I'm way, way more likely to read 'I can't believe people idiots think this guy is being buried' that 'this guy is being buried'.

I was there. Crowd came unglued. Maybe that didn't translate well to TV.

I bet Hunter will make reference to MNF being done. Taking ownership of the talking point with some snarky, insider-y remark is just the kind of thing he'd do.

Bret, Bock and Jumbo all falling. Heart punch.

I'll guess Rey Rey.

I'd probably call BW the most naturally gifted wrestler I've ever seen. Just a guy who could do it all, and even old, out-of-shape Windham at the end of WCW still looked more fluid and graceful than just about anyone else on the roster. What a guy.

It always bums me out that WWE are so intent on bringing in these past Attitude Era stars and putting them over the new guys and making them out to be the best thing ever, when they have on their roster fucking Goldust, who was a huge part of the Attitude Era, is still popular, and can outwrestle the BA Billy Gunns of the world on his worst day, and yet he's a glorified jobber.

For crying out loud. It's not hard to understand. Most of those guys ended up higher on the list than they did last time, whereas a lot of wrestlers from more niche styles (obviously those being lucha, shoot-style and joshi) ended up moving down. I'm fine with the list, for the record, but let's not pretend this hasn't happened.

Dustin as Costner? Beast, you like Elliott Smith so you're okay by me, but come on, dude? Costner can be Randy Orton. Dull as fuck. Dustin is Jeff Bridges. Second generation, great from the get-go, kinda uninspiring middle career, but highly lauded return to the limelight.

Buddy was my number 4, but I kinda wish I'd have had him at number one now. Not just to give him that extra bump in points ( I don't believe in strategic voting), but just because I feel like I have a fuller view of Buddy's work than I do of the guys I placed above him. For my 1-3 there are parts of their careers that I just haven't seen, or haven't seen all that much of. There's a certain amount of extrapolation at play there. Now, I haven't seen all the Buddy that's out there, or even close to it, but I feel like I have seen Buddy in pretty much every conceivable situation, with the exception being that I haven't seen that much of his face run. And based on just what I've witnessed with my own two eyes, he is probably the best ever. Also, as I go on I find myself placing less and less emphasis on longevity as a really key factor. I mean, it's important to me (and it isn't like Buddy was a flash in the pan anyway), but I think I value more if a guy can work for, say, four years, in a way that shows he really understands the art of wrestling as I see it, rather than someone putting together a ten or even fifteen year run as a great talent but falling short of that higher plateau.

Don't start at A and try to make your way through every nominee in alphabetical order. I may be done by 2026.

I couldn't justify voting for Street. Just don't see him near at that level. Fun enough character, though a bit broad for my tastes. Not that I expect subtlety in wrestling, but I think it takes a certain kind of performer to pull off this character well, and Street was just too hammy. I did enjoy when he would drop the shtick and just go on the offensive though, as that provided a neat contrast. Where Street suffers for me though is that his matches too easily just became drowned in shtick. I'm not a great matches guy, but I am a good matches guy, and I haven't seen too many good Street matches. The list may begin and end with the Breaks match actually (which is really quite good). Some of his stuff was actually difficult to get through. It could be a case of not having enough footage, or not having the right footage, as he was obviously a talented grappler, and could lay in some nice touches to his matches, but on the whole I won't be rushing to seek out more of his stuff.

I have 35 left of the 40. Hokuto is my highest drop, at 13. My other top 20 guys gone are Murdoch and Destroyer. I had Choshu at 25. One of the most charismatic wrestlers ever. He blew me away on the NJ set and I like to think him showing up with his white boots and long hair was like when the Beatles hit the scene with their mop tops. Choshumania!

And... Actually there are at least 5 or 6 guys I'd have behind Brock.

Brock may be the worst guy in the 100. I think his first run is probably more overrated than his second at this point.

Makes sense that the high vote on Punk is jpchicago. I had him in the 40s. Interested in where he ended up on Dylan's list after reading that quote.

I love Hokuto's theme! Had her top 15 I think.

I can't remember who I had higher between Vader and Aja. Both in the same ballpark, around the 20s for me. Two best 'big men' ever. I guess you could say Vader performed well and adjusted to different styles and contexts (and yes, he was good in WWF too) and Aja fell away a bit as a great worker, which I don't know if you can say the same about Vader. Both awesome though and could see arguments for either being better.

Arn is more like Robert Duvall. The consummate supporting player.

Keitel's career seems a bit more varied than that, and then he had a really strong resurgence. Maybe someone more like a Finlay.

For a guy for whom the main criticism is that he's too go-go-go, and doesn't know how to do things in moderation, Kurt sure did bore the shit out of me a lot of the time.