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Ron Wright was the King of the Hillbillies . Ron was everything people love about wrestling. He was one of a kind , a true all time great.
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The NBA Playoffs are pro wrestling
Memphis Mark replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Griz are all hurt. It is like death by paper cuts. No season ending injuries , just nagging stuff that keeps them down . Allen has a hamstring , Lee has a bad wrist , Green has a bad back , Gasol has a bad ankle, Randolph has a hurt elbow and Conley has a sprained foot. Before all the injuries they were playing .800 ball , now they are barely over . 500 . I still think they can handle Portland and then lose to Golden State. The thing about Memphis is that Conley , Lee and Green never shoot their average from three. They are all either hot or cold. If Memphis can hit any threes at all they are tough to beat . If you cannot double Randolph you are usually going to lose, get away with the double team , because of poor perimeter shooting , then you are in good shape. -
The NBA Playoffs are pro wrestling
Memphis Mark replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Tony Allen = Cactus Jack Zach Randolph = Vader Marc Gasol = Stan Hansen. You may beat Memphis on the score board , but you will take an ass kicking in the process, -
The NBA Playoffs are pro wrestling
Memphis Mark replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
The baby faces of the NBA playoffs are the Memphis Grizzlies . Every other team in the playoffs are just a bunch of dirty heels. -
From Tim Dils interview with Jerry Jarrett on kayfabe memories Dills: Since we're talking some about Buddy Fuller, he became your partner after the split. Buddy had a long career working behind the scenes in Georgia and Florida after retiring from the ring. How involved was Buddy in working with you those first few years and what led to Buddy selling his part of the company? I have heard about the Welch family training wrestlers through the years around Dyersburg, did help train some guys when he came back? Jarrett: As stated, Buddy was never involved in the promotion of the Tennessee territory. For a time, Buddy owned a farm in west Tennessee and during that time, he opened a wrestling school. I brought Buddy into the business as a political move and because his father was in great part responsible for me getting started in the business. Buddy asked if I could secure television in Ohio because he wanted to get active again in the business. I got television in Cincinnati, Dayton, and a couple of small markets in Ohio. I put the Memphis TV on in the towns and booked the first couple of tours with this talent. Buddy and Louis Tillet moved to Ohio. The plan was for them to begin with some of the Tennessee talent and develop a crew and begin producing their own television shows. The split was fifty-fifty in Ohio between Buddy and I. On the first night of the first tour, Bill Dundee called me and alerted me that things were 'beginning to smell funny' already. Dundee said Fuller came to the dressing room and told the talent that he had found a back door to the building open and hundreds of fans were coming in the door. Bill said the place was very near a sell-out. Various stories came in during the remainder of the tour, much like the first night, but with different twist. One spin was that the talent was told that most of the crowd was 'paper' because they wanted to have a big crowd on the first night. There is an old saying that goes, 'if it walks like a duck and quacks, it is probably a duck.' Well, this tour was walking like a duck and quacking loudly. I called all the buildings and because I had set the buildings up in the first place, asked that copies of box offices reports be sent to me. When Buddy showed up in Hendersonville with a check and reports that failed to match the reports from the buildings, he realized his hand had been called. I advised him that he and Louis could have Ohio and I'd run the Tennessee area. I already had a contract drawn in anticipation of his report. He signed the contract and that was the end of our partnership. Years later, Buddy called and asked if the IRS had contacted me. I said no. Buddy advised that they would be calling and that he had told him that he had no assets and asked if I would do the same. I said no. I explained that while I had few fears, the one I did have was messing with the IRS. I told him that unless he forgave the remainder of the contract, I would have to report it. Buddy was then faced with being caught lying to the IRS or forgiving the balance of the contract. Buddy forgave the contract. After Buddy's death, his wife and Ron Fuller, Buddy's son, found the contract and got an attorney and sued for the balance of the contract. With Buddy dead and the issues of involving the IRS, and the fact that Buddy had left small children with little means of support, my attorneys advised that winning the lawsuit could be as costly as the settlement. I settled with Buddy's widow. This is in Jarrett 's s autobiography . This is Jarrett story . Buddy Fuller is not here to tell his of the story . I am sure that Jarrett story has some elements of truth . However Jarrett has having to pay Buddy Fuller every month for supporting him in the war with Gulas. I am sure that Jarrett wanted Buddy out of the way and this was the way to do it. From Tim Dils interview with Jerry Jarrett on kayfabe memories Dills: Since we're talking some about Buddy Fuller, he became your partner after the split. Buddy had a long career working behind the scenes in Georgia and Florida after retiring from the ring. How involved was Buddy in working with you those first few years and what led to Buddy selling his part of the company? I have heard about the Welch family training wrestlers through the years around Dyersburg, did help train some guys when he came back? Jarrett: As stated, Buddy was never involved in the promotion of the Tennessee territory. For a time, Buddy owned a farm in west Tennessee and during that time, he opened a wrestling school. I brought Buddy into the business as a political move and because his father was in great part responsible for me getting started in the business. Buddy asked if I could secure television in Ohio because he wanted to get active again in the business. I got television in Cincinnati, Dayton, and a couple of small markets in Ohio. I put the Memphis TV on in the towns and booked the first couple of tours with this talent. Buddy and Louis Tillet moved to Ohio. The plan was for them to begin with some of the Tennessee talent and develop a crew and begin producing their own television shows. The split was fifty-fifty in Ohio between Buddy and I. On the first night of the first tour, Bill Dundee called me and alerted me that things were 'beginning to smell funny' already. Dundee said Fuller came to the dressing room and told the talent that he had found a back door to the building open and hundreds of fans were coming in the door. Bill said the place was very near a sell-out. Various stories came in during the remainder of the tour, much like the first night, but with different twist. One spin was that the talent was told that most of the crowd was 'paper' because they wanted to have a big crowd on the first night. There is an old saying that goes, 'if it walks like a duck and quacks, it is probably a duck.' Well, this tour was walking like a duck and quacking loudly. I called all the buildings and because I had set the buildings up in the first place, asked that copies of box offices reports be sent to me. When Buddy showed up in Hendersonville with a check and reports that failed to match the reports from the buildings, he realized his hand had been called. I advised him that he and Louis could have Ohio and I'd run the Tennessee area. I already had a contract drawn in anticipation of his report. He signed the contract and that was the end of our partnership. Years later, Buddy called and asked if the IRS had contacted me. I said no. Buddy advised that they would be calling and that he had told him that he had no assets and asked if I would do the same. I said no. I explained that while I had few fears, the one I did have was messing with the IRS. I told him that unless he forgave the remainder of the contract, I would have to report it. Buddy was then faced with being caught lying to the IRS or forgiving the balance of the contract. Buddy forgave the contract. After Buddy's death, his wife and Ron Fuller, Buddy's son, found the contract and got an attorney and sued for the balance of the contract. With Buddy dead and the issues of involving the IRS, and the fact that Buddy had left small children with little means of support, my attorneys advised that winning the lawsuit could be as costly as the settlement. I settled with Buddy's widow. Everybody knows Jarrett's story , it is in book . Jarrett is going to spin everything to make him look good . However it Jarrett story and there are two sides to every story . I am sure a lot of the story is true but Buddy Fuller is not here to tell his side of things. It is a fact that Buddy supported Jarrett in his war with Gulas. Jarrett had to pay Buddy a fee for really doing nothing. The Ohio deal provided Jarrett with a way to dump Fuller and not get heat with the NWA. I don't believe that Jarrett would have not settled out of court with Ron Fuller if the Fuller 's did not have a case . Ron Fuller is a smart businessman , he would not have taken legal action if there was no case. This is the same Jarrett that promised to make Lawler a equal partner if the King jumped from Gulas to his new company. Years went by and Jarrett did not fulifill his promise . Lawler and Lance Russell were set to run against Jarrett . Jarrett said he simply forgot about his promise to Lawler. So in order to keep Lawler , Jarrett finally gave Lawler his 50%. Does anyone really believe he just forgot about the deal he made with Lawler ? Jarrett cared about making money for Jarrett . There is nothing wrong with that goal . The bottom line is that Jarrett 's side of the story is merely his point of view and not the whole story ..
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Not sure you can call anything a sucker punch once a gun is pulled. Why Not ? They said Dundee was pulling a gun and Savage punched him on his blind spot. That is called a sucker punch in Memphis. Maybe they call it something else in Kentucky. The story was that Dundee was surrounded by Savage , Angelo , Rip Rogers and George Weingeroff . The legend is that Dundee was going for a gun and Savage punched Dundee on his blind side and broke Dundee jaw . Dundee never saw the punch coming. I was not there , I am only repeating the story . Rip Rogers , and Dundee know the real story . Anyway , I think it say to say Dundee and Savage disliked on another.
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Robert Fuller and Jerry Lawler were not best friends. Fuller was raised in the Welch family that ruled wrestling in South. Robert and Ron Fuller were trained by Buddy Fuller . They were trained as shooters / hookers from an early ages. The Fuller Brothers and their cousins were bought up in the old ways of the Welch family. Jerry Lawler came into the business without having to go thur all the years of training. Lawler did not have the shoot background of the Welch's , so Robert Fuller did not respect Jerry . Lawler and Fuller were working a big program , when Robert told Lawler that he could kick his ass anytime he want and Lawler could do nothing about. Lawler was concened that Fuller would shoot on him and had Jarrett end the money making program . There were hard feeling . I got most of this info from listening to Fuller's shoot interview I guess matters were made worse when Jarrett kicked Buddy Fuller out of the Memphis offfice. Robert Fuller was the Memphis booker in 79 and Jarrett fired him as well. Jarrett and Lawler ended up with Memphis , Louisville and Nashville. While the next generation got Welch's/ Fuller's / Golden's were left with the lesser Knoxville and the old Field's Gulf coast territory . Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden did work in Memphis again until 1988 , after Ron Fuller solded the Welch promotion to David Woods..
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Randy Savage and Bill Dundee. During the Jarrett / Poffo promotional war , Bill Dundee had the logo " Macho Man " on the back on his tights. Randy Savage took it as a insult. Savage and his crew confronted Dundee in the parking lot of a Nashville gym. Legend has it that Dundee tried to pull a gun , so broken his jaw with an alleged sucker punch. When the Poffo family worked for Jarrett , Dundee was booking for Watts. I do not think Dundee and the Poffos were ever on A Jarrett card together . I could be wrong , but I think Dundee was in Mid- South for the entire Poffo Memphis run.
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AIW's JLIT 2015 For what is considered the ultimate indy fed in North America, I'm not so sure they are putting on a more interesting lineup with their annual tag tournament. Actually think PWG stealing Gargano and Ethan Page for the 22nd increases my anticipation for this bad boy. I made this point on Twitter but I'm not sure if there are 3 wrestlers in the entire DDT4 (Gulak, Busick, and Sydal) that I'd consider clearly better than Little Guido in 2015. And not more than 4(Hero) on that entire card. While I think the percentage of interesting talent for AIW is bound to go down, I still think they have a good shot at surpassing DDT4 on overall, on paper quality and at the very least surpass that card in the intrigue factor. Is the independent intergender wrestling craze here to stay ? I mean how long can PWG continue ask male wrestlers to put over the Joey and Candice show ? The Joey & Candice team is why I quit watching PWG. Also the AIW tourny looks like another intergender deal , there are several women in the field. . I know I am old school but I think all of the intergender wrestling is going to have a negative impact on the business. I know some people enjoy watching women and men wrestle , but I think it is a very limited number.
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I Well , I AR Fox was hard for Gabe to deal with. Now that he has Davey Richards and TJ Perkins , Gabe did not need Fox . Despite what Gabe said that the way it is . If Gabe wanted Fox he would have found a way to smooth things over with Fox.
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Might be. I don't know . However Delirious is really pushing the paid try out camp concept to Sinclair as a revenue stream . They post photos of the camps on their facebook and twitter accounts, that how I knew about Americos. They make just about everyone who is not an established pro go to the camps and pay the fee. Ciampa , Fish , Taven , Bennett , Josh Alexander , Hansen , Dijak , Castle , Rowe , Elgin , Ethan Page , The Reno Scum and countless others have been to the camps. I think ROH has got one hell of a waiting list for a spot.
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Sinclair owns ROH , Joe Koff is a longftime Sinclair executive who worked with CWF in the 80's . Koff help put on the Battle of Belts shows. Koff knew Gary Juster who knew Jim Cornette , that how the deal got put together. Most People , like Mark Madden , do not understand that Sinclair is three times than the WWE . They pay millions of dollars for these TV stations .Sinclair stock is worth almost 3 B . They don't have to go WCW crazy with money , but they could at least fix the production issues.
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How have ROH's show been drawing? It's hard to justify to anyone, let alone an alleged penny-pinching bean counter, to spend the extra coin to run another arena in Nashville if they can't even fill the one they're using now. ROH sells out every building they run , the company is averaging about 1 ,100 fans per show. Nashville is always full .
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I am the only one that finds the Sinclair era of ROH to be a study in frustration ? This multi - billion dolar , publicly traded broadcasting corporation buys the largest independent wrestling company in North America and refuses to put sufficient capital into ROH . I glad they bought ROH because Silken would have been forced to close and sell the footage to the WWE . However Sinclair Corporation is worth billions of dollars , yet they will not up upgrade production , rent decent buildings for shows , run a full time schedule and give all the talents contracts . I understand Sinclair being risk adverse and protecting their stock holders . But you have to spend some money to make money . Hopefully things will improve in the future .. They could start by buying a lighting rig and renting decent buildings . The Nashville venue is a dump , it is an old Golden Glove boxing venue. Also sign the best available talent. Stop trying to force establish pros to pay money to go to your training camps. Sign Taylor , Gargano , Matt Cage , etc. The fans want to see the best available talent , not the cheapest available talent . We will see what the rest of the year brings . Just venting , I doubt Joe Koff cares enough to makew any positive changes .
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Tommasso Ciampa done with ROH . Maybe a work , Anyway that is Jacobs and Tommasso gone from ROH. They should give Dalton Castle one of those spots and push him to the moon.
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Well I am hoping it will be guys that move the needle, otherwise it would be pointless to do the angle. I think that there are some WWN Live guys that could be the invaders. Chuck Taylor has put out a story that Delirious thinks he is a bad wrestler and won't book him in ROH. So Taylor would be my first choice along with some combination of Johnny Gargano , AR Fox or the Bravado Brothers. Most ROH fans are eating up Taylor's sad story of rejection . You could have a Alex Shelley , Chris Sabin and Sonjay Dutt , former ROH / TNA guys. . Another group could be a returning Chris Hero put with the Bravados and / or Taylor.. Then you could do group of young wrestlers that were rejected by ROH for onre reason or another . . Ethan Page , Trevor Lee , Matt Cage , Biff Busick come to mind.. You could form a stable of ex- WWE guys like : Jinder Mahal , PJ Black , Curt Hawkins , which is a long shot.. Top choice would be if Austin Aries. If Aries TNA deal ran out and he came back with Shelley and Sabin that would be a major draw.. An Aries return would generate the most interest . I cannot think of anything else off the top of my head that would draw any money . Just guessing , could be anyone. I don't know the contract status of all these guys,
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Also Tommasso and Silas should be in San Antonio , I think they are starting a prorgam between those two guys. Also the three masked invaders should be revealed on Friday . So it looks like a nice lineup , I bet they tape 4 hours of TV .
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BJ Whitmer , Adam Page , Caprice Coleman and Donovan Dijak are booked for Texas. Also it would not shock me to see Dalton Castle on the card . I think Castle wil be a regular on all of the TV tapings . I saw Castle in Nashville , he is a really talented performed. Dalton just holds the crowd spellbound.. So there are so more guys that could be in single matches.
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Wrestling was a joke long before Vince was on the scene. I love the stuff, but realistically, that's true. I'll nominate Michael Hayes. A good ol' boy racist who thinks he's not, and has probably damaged multiple careers thus. Wrestling was not a joke to me or alot of other people before McMahon took over the WWF. People in the South loved wrestling , it was part of our lives . . Nobody was dropping their pants on TV and having other adults kiss their ass. or committing their wife to an insane aslyum Wresting was presented as a sport , not as The WWF/ E is the joke , not pro wrestling. Yes, who can forget the serious sporting events featuring Lawler fighting a Frankenstein. No, It is who cannot forget : Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat Nick Bockwinkle vs. Curt Henning Terry Allen vs. Tully Blanchard Buddy Rose vs. Roddy Piper Condry/ Eaton vs. Morton/ Gibson Dusty Rhodes vs. Kevin Sullivan Von Erichs vs. Frebireds Nick Bockwinkle vs. Jerry Lawler Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee Terry Funk vs. Ric Flair. Billy Robinson vs. verne Gagne Rockers vs. Rose/ Sommers. or Chief Jay Strongbow vs Bulldog Don Kent in a shark cage match. or Ric Flair vs. Harley Race at StarrCade (Sic) I am just stating my opinion . I guess people can find example of wrestlecrap all day to try and needle. me I am asked the question the man gave an answer Wrestling has always been a joke, especially in the South. You're just cherry picking matches to attempt to prove a point that's not really true. Memphis (which you are presumably a mark for) has had some of the goofiest gimmicks of all time. And I also don't see the point in posting that woman's photo I did not post any photo of a woman . I am not a mark for the Memphis teritory . I am a lifelong wrestling fan. I call myself Memphis mark , because I was born in Memphis , TN. I still live in Memphis . Anything else?
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Wrestling was a joke long before Vince was on the scene. I love the stuff, but realistically, that's true. I'll nominate Michael Hayes. A good ol' boy racist who thinks he's not, and has probably damaged multiple careers thus. Wrestling was not a joke to me or alot of other people before McMahon took over the WWF. People in the South loved wrestling , it was part of our lives . . Nobody was dropping their pants on TV and having other adults kiss their ass. or committing their wife to an insane aslyum Wresting was presented as a sport , not as The WWF/ E is the joke , not pro wrestling. Yes, who can forget the serious sporting events featuring Lawler fighting a Frankenstein. No, It is who cannot forget : Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat Nick Bockwinkle vs. Curt Henning Terry Allen vs. Tully Blanchard Buddy Rose vs. Roddy Piper Condry/ Eaton vs. Morton/ Gibson Dusty Rhodes vs. Kevin Sullivan Von Erichs vs. Frebireds Nick Bockwinkle vs. Jerry Lawler Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee Terry Funk vs. Ric Flair. Billy Robinson vs. verne Gagne Rockers vs. Rose/ Sommers. or Chief Jay Strongbow vs Bulldog Don Kent in a shark cage match. or Ric Flair vs. Harley Race at StarrCade I am just stating my opinion . I guess people can find example of wrestlecrap all day to try and needle. me I am asked the question the man gave an answer
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Wrestling was a joke long before Vince was on the scene. I love the stuff, but realistically, that's true. I'll nominate Michael Hayes. A good ol' boy racist who thinks he's not, and has probably damaged multiple careers thus. Wrestling was not a joke to me or alot of other people before McMahon took over the WWF. People in the South loved wrestling , it was part of our lives . . Nobody was dropping their pants on TV and having other adults kiss their ass. or committing their wife to an insane aslyum Wresting was presented as a sport , not as The WWF/ E is the joke , not pro wrestling. Yes, who can forget the serious sporting events featuring Lawler fighting a Frankenstein. No, It is who cannot forget : Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat Nick Bockwinkle vs. Curt Henning Terry Allen vs. Tully Blanchard Buddy Rose vs. Roddy Piper Condry/ Eaton vs. Morton/ Gibson Dusty Rhodes vs. Kevin Sullivan Von Erichs vs. Frebireds Nick Bockwinkle vs. Jerry Lawler Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee Terry Funk vs. Ric Flair. Billy Robinson vs. verne Gagne Rockers vs. Rose/ Sommers.