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Okay, so if someone thought that the way to end that Modern vs Past discussion was THAT, well I don't know what to say. I enjoy posting here but that felt pretty shitty.

Not out of the running at all. I mean TNA has killed a large amount of his career which sucks for him and AJ's case but his run as Ace of ROH gives him something to work off at least. And since I feel I'm a bigger fan of Kobashi vs Joe around these parts than most(that is nearly pure assumption) I'll probably be a bit higher on other stuff as well. And while he has this TNA black mark, he has managed to have some pretty darn good stuff there. I don't know how much it would count for in the end but if I watched enough TNA (already setting myself up for not finding out) and he ended up having the top match or at least 2 out of the Top 5 then I think that is at least something of note.

His series with Callihan is one of my favorite indie related things in the past 5 years. Clearly that isn't where a case begins but more an added cherry to anyone thinking of voting for him. Best Callihan matches whose had his own share of quality matches, though not really nomination worthy as an individual.

Be real interesting to see how it works out for them. They are going to be announcing what it'll be looking like production wise it seems. Sorta hoping they start phasing out the DRAGON GATE out of EVOLVE. I like Rich Swann and some others but don't need 17+ minute main events from them showing they can FLY!

I don't think that is 100% on the nose with the "all singles matches" point but it has become pretty evident throughout the year that Gabe is approaching EVOLVE a little differently right now. Trying to imagine how a Thatcher vs Busick match in China comes off to that crowd since I have NO idea if they have this big interest in combat sports or anything.

Has their been a promotion that has tried to run semi-consistent wrestling in China?

Might as well give this thread a boost since indie wrestling seems to be a big issue. SO QUESTION TIME! Is Evolve going to China being incredibly downplayed? When is the last time an indie company went to an Asian market? Would that be ROH? China from the sounds of it is a very hard market to crack into for wrestling. And from the sounds of it they could be in front of their largest crowds to date by a pretty big margin.

YES!!! Top level banter.

I'm still a little confused why people are already against the GOAT Project? There are CLEARLY a good chunk of people who would have Tanahashi, Michaels, Toyota and Angle high...but people would have to vote and it seems people are pre-disposed to think their favorites are already out of the running. EDIT: Not arguing that the initial impression of PWO at face value is not a modern wrestling discussion haven. That is an intended generalization. Sure, there are people that watch it and enjoy it here but if I said my first impression of this board was I'm gonna chat about the helluva year Cedric Alexander is having.

I'm not saying justification for him being great just justification versus a couple other wrestlers of his ilk. That is more of an overall thing that'll come into play in the GOAT Project and WKO100, but sadly since that part of the discussion isn't really apt RIGHT here and since WKO doesn't have much talk going it really isn't necessary right now.

I tried starting a modern indie thread...it died very quickly.

I'm a fan of Titus but I wouldn't say he was anywhere near a Top 10 wrestler in 2014. And yes, art is subjective and yadda yadda but sometimes I don't think it is outlandish to ask someone, in this case Bill, to justify him not just being great but #4 in the world great.

Yeah, not seeing how he is in the same boat as Thatcher. Thatcher is young into his notable stuff while Cesaro has been around for awhile just depends on how much you enjoyed his indie stuff which either works for him or against him. Thatcher doesn't have a ton to work against him yet.

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So it'd be cool if I started sending messages to people on other boards? Cause that's what I'm gonna do...

Wouldn't say that Generico is a shoe-in for my Top 100 but certainly one of the workers in contention for the back half of my list. Actually, no idea if he'll go higher but lets start there to be reasonable. He's a great babyface, had good tag team runs between ROH and PWG, and he had engaging feuds. That alone from his indie days is enough to at least be someone to give a look. Certainly have to go back and see what holds up but I've got a feeling that a good chunk will still hold value. I feel he's adapted real well in NXT. I don't know how much stock I'll put into this as a point towards him but he seems to have been the best guy in WWE's development for awhile now and even on down episodes he manages to give something watchable. That might not be crazy praise but it is something when you have to go against guys like Corey Graves.

That would probably be a better requirement for nomination than 3 matches, topic starter, granted now that is a moot point.

YAY IT'S MIKE!!!

There are a few guys so far on the list that I will be dismissing most likely because of time. KENTA won't be one. Haven't gone back and watched most of his stuff so I'll be trying to get an idea of where his career lands. He does have going for him that he was one of those GUYS people were talking a storm up about when I was getting into the OTHER WRESTLING stuff that exists in the world.

I'm going to go ahead and say I've gotta prioritize and Timothy Thatcher trying to drag Adam Thornstowe and El Chupacrabra for a few years probably won't convince me that he is a Top 100 guy all-time right now. Though Dylan creates hours in the day so if he says he has a couple of case beefers from earlier in his career I'll give them a look.

Great wrestler but not at all sure how one could put him as a Top 100 worker EVER.