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Also just wanted to add: Showing footage of Lashley celebrating with Trump might get a negative response by some fans, might get a positive response from others, but how many guys with all the credentials listed above also wrestled a major WrestleMania match with the POTUS as their second? I'm not saying Lashley needs to wear a MAGA hat, but if they had built him up with all the hype described above and, in the inevitable video package, also showed him getting his arm raised by Trump, it would've made him seem like an even bigger star.

^ If they're holding onto Braun/Brock for Mania, which I expect will be a clunker based on their previous matches, I'd love for them to go with Balor/Cena. Of course, that would necessitate one of them turning heel - unless they did a face/face thing, which could work, but would be considerably less "hot" of an angle. Its interesting to think about Cena turning heel in 2019. On one hand, I could see Vince supporting it now more than ever as Cena has one foot in Hollywood and there's certainly plenty of mileage in a Cena heel run even if he's only around 5-6 months a year (not dissimilar to Brock). From a "TV quality" standpoint, it is probably the best option they have at revitalizing RAW's content with a major landscape-shifting angle. On the other hand, I believe Cena is still somehow the top merch mover in the company, Reigns is gone, and if you're only going to have Cena for 5-6 months of a year, why on Earth would you not want him to be your returning hero? Cena as the top babyface has worked for over a decade, so even if he's not around as much, messing with the formula seems silly - like if they'd turned Undertaker in 2008 or whatever. It seems to me we're at the start of the Cena Victory Lap years, when he will progressively wrestle less and less matches and eventually become a Mania-only guy like Taker. That role is best served by Cena being a face then, now, forever.

I'm not sure I agree with this sentiment either. Braun's worst matches, to me, were the WrestleMania tag with Nicholas, the "comedy" TLC match against Corbin last month, and the 2017 Survivors Series main event. My reasons are pretty simple: (1) he shouldn't be doing comedy matches and (2) even when he's a face, he shouldn't be buddying up to anybody because it takes away from his character too much. That Mania segment seemed like something Hillbilly Jim would've done, not a Monster Among Men, a one-man army who should be feared first and foremost, even when he's doing something heroic. The tags as a member of the Wyatt Family were unremarkable. Not terrible, but not noteworthy. He was also just coming onto the main roster during that run. His best bouts have definitely been the multi-man car-wrecks. The good news is that the WWE puts on at least 4-5 of those a year. He's been in some 4-ways, some 3-ways, some Survivors matches, a team-based TLC match, and an Elimination Chamber (I think?). He's very good at matches that involve furniture damage, set pieces getting destroyed, and lots of moving parts that enable him (and others) to take turns being the focal point of the match. It just so happens that, in today's WWE, those type of matches are headlining close to half of the Network Specials. In that sense, he's perfectly suitable to be a top guy. But what about those singles matches? His matches against Reigns, which I liked, all lasted at least 10 minutes and the Great Balls of Fire one lasted close to 20. He also had some fairly decent bouts against Big Show on RAW. But the match I think that was really most worth mentioning was the 10-minute challenge against Zayn. Against Lesnar, it just seems like these two guys can't find their groove, but there is only one Brock Lesnar on the WWE roster and there are like 12 Sami Zayns. What I mean is, we haven't really seen what a Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, even a Seth Rollins (my skin crawls to include him but I'll deal) could do against a Strowman. Sami Zayn got a good 10 minute match out of him. I think Mysterio could. If both guys were more over in their respective roles, I think Balor could do something fun with Strowman. Paired with the right agent helping out, I wouldn't be surprised if Almas, Velveteen Dream, Richochet, etc. could too down the line. To me, its still too early to say that Strowman can't wrestle a 12-15 minute match that would be really good if he was paired with the right guys.

I don't see him beating Lesnar and I'm of the opinion that Lesnar drops the title at Mania to someone (hopefully AJ, but more likely Rollins) and then does some sort of big fight for UFC in the summer/fall of 2020. Granted, I've been wrong about Lesnar before, thinking (falsely) that he was leaving after last year's Mania and then he stuck around (relatively speaking) till SummerSlam. Maybe the same will happen this year? So yes, Braun Strowman is heading into Big Show territory. Will he one day hold a World Championship? Absolutely. Like Big Show, there may even be some good runs and some stretches where he's somewhat credible. But a real aura? A bankable draw like The Undertaker? Nope. Whatever is left of it (and there's not much) is going to be F'5'd to oblivion on January 27th.

As I wrote in my first post, I was saddened to hear about the passing of "Mean" Gene and can't say enough about what he brought to the table. But count me as one of those cynical viewers that thinks bringing Hogan out for a special ceremony or whatever is super lame. I'm willing to hear the argument, but to me, it does feel like the WWE shoe-horning a Hogan appearance into the show. Like, when Sherri died, maybe I missed it, but did they bring out DiBiase to honor her? Or HBK? Or Harlem Heat? Or Rick Martel to give a heartfelt speech about her? Did they? Or were the ratings not in a huge slump so they just played a respectful video package and went on with it? I hate myself for saying it, but it does seem like opportunism. Like, if the ratings were high and they had a bunch of hot angles, they wouldn't bother...but because the ratings are in the shitter and they have 0 hot angles on RAW, any excuse they can to get the Hulkster in the ring is good enough for them even if I can't even imagine what kind of promo or speech Hulk Hogan would give in front of a live audience that would be better or more fitting than just airing Okerlund's HoF induction. (Which, I believe, Hogan also gave?) Its like - if you want to honor the guy, devote 15 minutes to a well-made biography video about him. The WWE's production crew is perfectly capable of it. It would bring tears to many eyes and be heartfelt. But bringing in Hogan so he can pop the crowd seems like you're really just honoring Hogan, not "Mean" Gene. I hate to be crass, but I hope when Ric Flair does, one day (hopefully a long time from now) pass away, they don't use it as an excuse to have Triple H do crotch chops and spit water in the air "out of respect." EDIT - If it just a sit-down interview interspliced with other tributes, that's fine. Just read the post above. That sounds perfectly classy. I just don't want "Real American" blaring and a posedown.

One of the most iconic, beloved on-screen characters in wrestling history. Its hard to say he was underrated because he was so iconic, but when you think of a backstage interviewer in wrestling, its "Mean" Gene. He is on the top floor of a skyscraper and everybody else whose ever done the role is waiting for an elevator at ground level comparatively. He made being the straight man to larger-than-life personas like Hogan, Savage, Flair, and Heenan look completely effortless while also being the perfect shill for the companies he worked for (and I mean that as a compliment because that was his job). RIP Gene

Fun idea. Here's some that spring to mind as I wait for my Uber: - The first time I saw the Finn Balor Demon gimmick, I thought it was stupendous. It doesn't pack the same punch now, but that first time (admittedly, it was in NXT), I thought it was incredible and the entrance was shot perfectly. - Any time Rick Rude spray-painted his tights, it was $$$. Velveteen Dream has been crushing it too for similar reasons. - Macho Man's full bodysuits might be the only full bodysuits I can get behind. They were glorious - especially for his bigger matches. On that note, I never got the idea of MVP looking like a multi-sport athlete or whatever. To me, it was just weird. At first, I dug Seth Rollins' look because it reminded me of Snake Pliskin from Escape from New York, but I actually think he looks better without the top just because everyone and their mother seems to wrestle with a shirt on these days. - Shawn Michaels had some good looks. Liked the original black DX gear where (I think) it was just his black pants/silver or red hearts with DX green crosses over them. I also liked the Texas-inspired ones he wore at Rumble 97' and the white/gold combo for WrestleMania XII. The rest of his outfits are very reminiscent of the "leather daddy" scene, so, I'm not gonna co-sign on the mirror-covered chaps and zebra-print cap (look it up - the fact that they sold replicas to unsuspecting kids who wore them in public seems like it could be the basis of a Law and Order: SVU), but his pants were cool.

I'd be okay with that. I loved their SummerSlam match. Cena getting #17 doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother anyone else. Since he'd likely only be coming back for the short-term, I expect he'd drop the title within a couple months back to Bryan or to AJ or to Almas. Any of those three matches, on a Network special, given time, sounds great. I don't see them doing the Lesnar thing and putting the title on Cena and letting him take it to Hollywood for 6 months at a time, so, who cares? Its Mania. I'm hoping the AJ/Vince thing is to heat him up for a Rumble win and to challenge Lesnar, but with him in a title match on that show, I'd be surprised to see him then win the Rumble. On the topic of talk show segments (and Alexa Bliss's in particular), it's a minor grievance but Raw should take a "paige" from SD and mix up the way the genders interact too. For example, Edge doing a Cutting Edge with Becky Lynch some months ago may not have produced gold, but its a small way to cement the idea that Women's Division isn't this separate, lower-tier novelty that only the women care about. By having former World Champion "name" talents like Edge and Foley coming out and interacting with Becky, Charlotte, Asuka, etc., its a not-so-subtle nudge that these are the must-see acts on the show. Having Alexa Bliss hosting a segment with Rousey and Nia (or whoever) not only makes no sense (in kayfabe terms), but also isn't fresh when its essentially going to lead to the same name-calling and diss-trading they did when they feuded last spring and had your typical in-ring segment. Sadly, I can't think of any males on Raw that could pull off a talk show segment right now either because the Raw roster lacks over talent in general and great promos specifically. Maybe Titus? I can't see a kayfabe reason for Heyman doing a talk show segment that doesn't involve Lesnar. But, yeah, in theory, a MizTV segment or Highlight Reel or something of that ilk where a heel host was stirring shit between Rousey and Nattie just to see the sparks fly would, to me, make sense. Just like having Bliss host a segment interviewing the returning Owens and Zayn would work if Alexa promoted it as her "one-upping" the McMahons and personally welcoming back two stars as a way to pad her own ego. In summation, talk show segments can work, but (1) throwing them on a show nonchalantly with no purpose and hoping for the best is a recipe for disaster and (2) they're far more intriguing when the characters interacting have not interacted countless times before.

Big Show's Cobra-Clutch Backbreaker and that whole initial run in ECW is probably my favorite run of his ever. The matches weren't "good," but there was just something inherently watchable/must-see about Big Show vs. Sabu as a match. Like a Pro Wrestling Illustrated "What If They Fought" column from 96' magically coming to life 10 years later. The use of the Crossface by HBK and HHH (and I think maybe Punk or Bryan used it too) is one of my favorite "meta"/post-modern spots to analyze. I say post-modern (maybe wrongly?) because I feel like intention takes a backseat to what the viewer's interpretation is. For example, I think HHH busted out a crossface against Daniel Bryan at WM30. This was years after the Benoit tragedy and the move had been done before. Many viewers probably didn't immediately connect it to WM20 or the idea of Bryan being "the next Benoit," but that's how I interpreted its usage - that whether HHH or Bryan intended it or not, that specific move in that specific context was an almost cathartic moment - that what Benoit represented 10 years earlier was what Bryan represented that night and that it was okay for that desire, passion, even recklessness to exist. To them, it was probably just another spot, but to me, it symbolized so, so much more and was a tremendous statement about not only the dangers of wrestling in a ring, but also the dangers and tragedy of devoting your life to the livelihood of being a wrestler. Almost like Triple H restraining Bryan with the Crippler Crossface was asking him, "Are you sure you want this? Because if you submit to this, submit now, because this is the darkest side of this life. If you fight through this, know what you will be fighting through." Again, I could be dead wrong and they didn't even use the move in that match or, if they did, 99.9% of people forgot they did (including the wrestlers involved).

Didn't he use the Hells Gate against Lesnar? Also, I know he busted out the Last Ride in his feud with Edge (around 2007 or 08', I think?). I wouldn't be surprised if he also used it on some of his other smaller opponents in those years - CM Punk, Rey, etc. Any analysis of his moveset after 2010 would be sketchy just because he only wrestled a handful of times each year from then till today. Has Seth Rollins used the Pedigree since the feud with Triple H ended?

Not sure what to make of that segment. Seems like swimming against the tide to turn AJ, especially when Bryan's killing it in the role and it also hasn't been too long since Nakamura turned (and you still got Joe quietly doing well). Seriously, I'm not against dual brand PPVs, but aside from whatever Rousey's doing, I don't think there's a single feud on RAW that I'd like to see represented on a PPV more than the least interesting feud on SD. Like, I'd more interested in a Naomi/Asuka rematch than whatever cockamamie gimmick match they'd do with Rollins/Ambrose or Balor/whoever if there was PPV on Sunday. So, then, if its not meant to turn AJ, it seems like its meant to "darken" him - but for what? HHH? Hard pass. Taker? Having the McMahons involved sounds like the most convoluted route to get there possible. Maybe Vince will exact revenge by making AJ #1 in the Rumble? And he'll win it and then, to prove to Vince he's got the "animal" instinct, he'll challenge Brock? That scenario works for me but it just seems ludicrously far-fetched. Then again, realistically, when they lost Reigns and looked at the numbers, was AJ the #2 merch seller? Or was it Rollins? Or someone else?

My MOTY is Almas/Gargano. Selfishly, I really came here to cheaply plug my 4th annual "10 Favorite Network Matches of the Year" column over at my blog (Kwang The Blog). Just like previous years, all matches from the WWE/NXT Network Specials/PPVs, so its far from comprehensive, but I enjoy writing it so I keep doing it. Check it out!

I'd have no problem with Jeff Hardy getting that spot. I'm not a huge fan or anything, but in terms of star power, he's often (unfairly) kept out of the conversation of Most Popular of the past 20 years when I think one could argue he's in the top 10 for babyfaces. I can't relate to it personally because to me he always struck me as a Hot Topic goth, but guy was considered somewhat of a heartthrob in the early 00s, the crazy stunts he did endeared him to a lot of fans, and he's been able to maintain that fan connection for 20 years now. If I was fantasy booking things, though, I'd like to see Bryan feud with Big E. New Day are walking billboard ads for useless crap (sugar-loaded cereal, cheap tee-shirts, etc.) and Big E just needs a "serious feud" or two to breakout. Plus, they already had a pretty good bout a few months back. I think it could happen, but I'm not sure if they're confident enough to do it at Mania.

I'd be immensely surprised if Bryan has "Hogan-like" creative control. I just don't see Vince ever agreeing to that for Bryan. I'm gonna go "Occam's Razor" here and guess that Bryan, someone fairly universally liked by most accounts I've read, may have fans and supporters in top Creative positions on SmackDown and he's pitching them the ideas that he thinks will make the show better. They're trusting him because, well, his ideas do seem to be good for the show and are somewhat low risk (its not like he's booking himself as the next Goldberg, just destroying people left and right). He wasn't setting the world afire as a babyface anymore, so, he probably requested a heel turn and ran down a slew of guys he'd like to work with - from AJ to Rey to Ali to (I wouldn't be surprised) even The New Day. Bryan strikes me as a creative guy, like a Jericho, who has enough pull to say, "Hey, I want to work with ____. We're gonna tear the house down. Just give us 12 minutes." And then, when the live reaction is strong and it works, the producers are more likely to hear his ideas and collaborate. Maybe even the same writers/agents/producers who helped make him a mega-star 2-3 years ago are still around and have even more clout and, justifiably, believe that if they continue to collaborate and take in his ideas, they can strike gold again. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think its a simple as Bryan exercising Creative Control to make his (and only his) storylines good. The fact that the rest of SmackDown has also been pretty good and interesting while RAW has been objectively terrible makes me think that there are teams of writers/agents/producers attached to each show and one team is just more open-minded, organized, and willing to play to wrestlers' strengths (rather than Vince's personal tastes) more.

Will post my full review over at Kwang The Blog tomorrow (hopefully). A few thoughts I didn't necessarily see mentioned or not mentioned enough... - Fun opener. Felt like "the best kind of house show match." It was light, a little silly, but everyone maximized their minutes. R-Truth and Alicia Fox are entertaining. Carmella has quietly earned recognition as "Most Improved" in 2018 (and maybe even 2017) from where she started. - Rollins/Ambrose felt like "the worst kind of house show match." My full scathing review will be at my blog, but this match had everything working against it - from loathsome commentary to even a bit of a "bait and switch" for the live crowd to the lackluster build to the layout of the match itself. What I'm referring to with the "bait and switch" is that when you spend a month of RAW promoting a match for a PPV entitled TLC and use the phrase "TLC" every time you promote a match that is built as the main draw of the show (at least on the RAW brand), fans are going to expect it to be a TLC Match...or at least something close to it. Also, Rollins wrestling 20-minute mini-epics on RAW every week when the rest of the card is woeful reruns containing the likes of Bobby Roode, Apollo Crews, and Baron Corbin, you're going to stand out as a "great wrestler." On a show with AJ, Bryan, Ronda, a healthy Rey Mysterio, and a motivated Randy Orton, you don't look quite as impressive. - Can we talk about how fun that Orton/Rey match was? It was resthold-free and wrestled like two guys that, backstage, said to each other, "We're two of the biggest stars of the past 20 years and they put us in the midcard, let's go show them how it's done." Orton, when motivated, which seems like maybe 3-4 times a year in a good year, can be really good and Rey is Rey. That Bronco Buster onto the chair on the outside of the ring was batshit crazy awesome. The audience was more engaged for this "throwaway" match with a third of the build than it was for Rollins/Ambrose. - They need to think about giving Graves a break on these shows, pulling him from a match or two for each brand. I like his commentary for the most part, but his work during the Rollins/Ambrose match was abysmal. I was actually shocked that the live crowd turned on it because I thought it was only fans watching at home that were being tortured. They should be lucky they didn't have to listen to 10+ minutes of Graves and Renee Young bickering back and forth while Cole tried (unsuccessfully) to get the match over.

I didn't see Rollins' initial tweet. How lame if he felt the need to stick up for Creative. I get it - the job is hard and these people are friends or co-workers who he feels empathy for and wants fans to have empathy too - but, and I hate to sound like I don't care, but I don't care. Defending Creative is only one step away from "If you don't like it, don't watch it." Personally, I don't watch RAW (and it boggles my mind that anyone does), but the 2 million fans still watching have every right to criticize even if they don't know the full story about why certain crap gets put on air and some ideas, that might be great, don't (the answer is VINCE). The recent Guy Evans book Nitro does a great job of showing how certain decisions were out of Bischoff and Russo's hands at certain points, that you can't just book a real wrestling show like Extreme Warfare 2000, that there are variables and factors that fans aren't privy to that make impacts. It is a much fairer assessment of the end of WCW than Death of WCW, but it also doesn't deny that bad creative was an issue and that Bischoff and Russo made errors that fall squarely on their shoulders. There's no reason to defend the writers (still headed by, if I'm not mistaken, Vince, Stephanie, Dunn, and a bunch of the same guys who've been in charge for over a decade) when we're talking about a scripted TV program. If you can't blame the writers (esp. Vince) and you can't blame the wrestlers and you can't blame the production crew or USA, then who should be criticized for what RAW has become?

Obviously cards are subject to change. But here in Cleveland, the radio advertisements for Fastlane (in March, I believe) are hyping the following matches: Styles/Bryan (WHC Title) Ambrose/Rollins (IC Title) Lynch/Charlotte (Women's Championship) No mention of Brock or Braun (let alone any returning guy like Taker, HHH, or The Rock). I'm thinking none of those matches are actually set in stone for Fastlane, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Yeah, I also read that he fought A-Wall again the next night on Nitro, so whatever happened, he must have been medically cleared. Based on what I've gathered (which is pretty much nothing), it might be that he had a unscripted "false alarm" after the match - loss of breath, chest pain, etc. - that required him to need oxygen and EMTs at Mayhem, but did not actually suffer a heart attack or anything. It just feels like WCW, as many tasteless decisions as they made, wouldn't run this sort of angle so closely to the Paul Orndorff injury? Plus, I can't seem to find much about it online, which means, it probably wasn't mentioned again or used as storyline fodder (because, if it were, I think there'd be more hubbub about how tasteless it would be). EDIT: So, I kept watching Mayhem today and, lo and behold, as he's getting carted off to the back and General Rection is making his way down the aisle, Bigelow gets off the stretcher and sneak attacks him before his match against Lance Storm. It was all a swerve.

Quick question that I'm sure someone here can answer - I'm watching Mayhem 2000 and after the Bam Bam Bigelow/A-Wall match, Bigelow is taken out on a stretcher and the announcers treat it like a legit injury. I haven't finished watching the show so I"m not sure if they bring it up again or this is just a swerve for a future angle, but did Bigelow legitimately hurt himself? Suffer a heart attack? Concussion? He doesn't look great in this match, but again, its WCW in late 2000 and his opponent is A-Wall, so I wasn't expecting him to put on a clinic or anything.

I'm a huge homer for Gargano (being from Cleveland and having great memories of watching him wrestle since 2006), but I'm not super into the turn. I'm not sure if there's a word for it, but to me, its almost like, in the late 90s, I used to be in e-feds where people created characters, wrote text-based promos and "competed" with one or two people writing out the matches, etc., etc. all through email and message boards. When it started, you could essentially envision a character based on their name - my character was Owen Masters (son of the supposed legend Larry Masters), his finish was the Master-Plex, and, as the name and pedigree hinted, he was clearly meant to bring to mind Mr. Perfect and Owen Hart. There were guys like Mortal Kombat-inspired Johnny Star and the cocky Johnny "Hotbody" Michaels (in retrospect, there were always lots of Johnnys in these feds). I remember feuding with Hatashi (whose entrance theme was "Big Me" by Foo Fighters and was, you guessed it, a monster sumo whose promos were written in a style that would now be considered blatantly racist). Inevitably, though, the creator of one of these characters - purposefully developed to be one-dimensional so that you and your opponent could engage in a war of words that could be understood and purportedly enjoyed by others - would listen to one too many Smashing Pumpkins songs and decide to have their character "go dark." Guys originally created to be a hybrid of Hulk Hogan and Austin like "The Rebel" Jack Eastwood would now deliver "promos" full of (literal!) bad high school poetry in dark gray, gothic fonts atop black backgrounds. Imagine if, in WCW, not just Sting turned into the Crow, but Luger did also, and so did both Steiners, and because why not, so did Public Enemy and Rey Mysterio Jr. This was the e-fed world in 97'-98'. And that's kind of how Johnny Gargano looks to me right now. Like, yes, Gargano failing to beat Ciampa and being driven to this dark, moody "emo" character makes total sense and I can see exactly what he's going for with it - but that doesn't mean its good (and its certainly not original). It feels like something a 15-year old would "fantasy book" because of how "cool" it theoretically is for a hero, like a John Cena, to become an anti-hero. But what they're forgetting is that, like in an e-fed, a good character in wrestling shouldn't need to be constantly refreshed if there is progression in their opponents, reasons for various feuds, different short-term and long-term goals he can strive for. The Ciampa/Gargano feud needed to end or be suspended for a little while, no doubt, but who the hell thought turning the best babyface on the brand into a generic, pouting heel was clever? Its not even that Gargano's turn feels forced - its that its not remotely interesting and has actually only served to make him feel lesser than he was as the underdog who couldn't win the title. Now, I'm not sure where exactly that underdog babyface character could've gone, but I think, if it were my job, I'd be able to come up with some pitches. I could go on and on with how much I dislike the turn, but I'll stop here.

Yea, hate to piggy back, but wasn't there a stretch where SD was getting higher ratings than RAW in 02'? A cursory google search also reveals that SmackDown 1000 outperformed the RAW from that week and in the last week of 2016. That being said, this week's very cold RAW did no favors to SmackDown, which did a miserable rating too.

And it wasn't just Houston that didn't turn up last night. RAW posted its worst ever rating (an average of 2.29 across 3 hours) ratings this week. I'm not sure if Vince is in panic mode or not. We'll find out on Monday if we get some sort of "shake up." I wouldn't be surprised to see Vince himself on the show or maybe Shane. Maybe they bring back Owens or Strowman early (not to wrestle, but just to appear and lend some spark). Is Wyatt still around? What brand is he even on? Cena's due to come back soon, right? To promote Bumblebee?

Yeah, the images that are going around (just google "RAW Houston Attendance") are reminiscent of some of those really sparsely attended SD shows from years back. They should absolutely be worried. By my estimate, its look like they had maybe 6k-7k people in an arena that can hold 18k. While Vince and Co. may have been able to turn a blind eye to those because SD has always been the "B-show," is taped, and doesn't have the brand power of RAW, this show's failure to sell tickets is (at least) "half inexcusable" - which is to say that when you build your whole late summer/fall programming of your show around guys you knew wouldn't be around in November/December (namely DX, Undertaker, and Lesnar), you're running a big risk for when those guys aren't around. Then, when unforeseen instances take away your next biggest names (Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman), you're left with big gaps on top. As has been said countless times, the entirety of the brand is what seems to be driving the ticket sales more than one specific act (hasn't it been confirmed that Lesnar's advertised presence doesn't generate that much of a boost compared to non-Lesnar shows?), so it can't be interpolated that RAW attendance has do with any failure on the part of Rousey or Rollins or any other specific talent. What I think it does show is that these bigger names (Rousey, Rollins, Ambrose) are not big enough on their own to entice people to RAW and the rest of the roster - even acts I personally love - have been made to be such "small potatoes" that the sum of the parts are worthless. Considering that Banks, Bayley, Balor, AOP, and The Revival were, at different times, key parts of NXT shows that had no problem filling 2-3k auditoriums without a TV show or anything more than print/radio advertisements, this just goes to show how poorly the Creative team has done in making any of these acts worth watching/supporting. And the fact that this was in Houston matters too. The greater Houston population is something like 6.5 million people. I live in Cleveland, where the area population is closer to 2 million people. We both have indoor arenas that seat 18k. That tells me that filling an 18k seat arena in Houston in December shouldn't be that tough if you've got 3 times the population.

Last week I derailed the thread into a discussion about Lars Sullivan and I regret it. So, my repentance will be to try to stick to talking about just the TV product. Let's play a game where we list why the Seth Rollins/Dean Ambrose feud is a flop. I'll start. Seth Rollins, for as much as I don't "get" his appeal, is clearly above being the IC Champion and feuding with guys he's already feuding with - Ambrose and Ziggler - so, its kinda like, the definition of a filler feud or a "wait and see" regarding his chances as a potential WrestleMania main eventer against Brock. I know there's at least a half dozen other reasons, anyone else want to chime in?

I only watch WWE/NXT (and old stuff) and will post my annual Top 10 Network Matches in December, but I did want to jump in and ask: "PWO ain't got no love for Daniel Bryan vs. The Miz at SummerSlam 2018?" I don't know. I really, really liked that match. Its not my number one MOTY, but I think it stood out most because it wasn't a borderline spotfest, false finish-loaded "epic" but rather an excellent match between two strong characters with plenty of history. Will definitely make my Top 10.