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Oh, I agree...but in 2019, Cena is gone, Reigns was somehow a bigger deal before he beat cancer (!) Daniel Bryan is in a tag team, and as much as I like and think the WWE could do a better job at making guys like Orton, Jeff Hardy, Mysterio, and AJ come off as bigger attractions, none of them have much aura right now. And that's before we even talk about guys that could've/should've/would've been main event stars like Strowman or Rusev or Big E. Sadly, I think we'll see the same thing with someone like Velveteen Dream - someone whose Takeover matches have become "must see" to me and who oozes charisma and feels like a transcendent star (the way Nakamura did in his WWE debut). But they'll probably have him come in and feud with Robert Roode over the 24/7 Title or whatever and that "specialness" will disappear. So, you're right, it shouldn't be a "Lesnar Or No Stars" situation...but it IS a "Lesnar Or No Stars" situation because unless I'm missing someone, I don't see anyone with the same aura as Lesnar on the main roster currently and, even when the WWE does seem to have someone that has that aura, they crush it almost immediately with 50/50 booking and overexposure.

Oh, I agree...but in 2019, Cena is gone, Reigns was somehow a bigger deal before he beat cancer (!) Daniel Bryan is in a tag team, and as much as I like and think the WWE could do a better job at making guys like Orton, Jeff Hardy, Mysterio, and AJ come off as bigger attractions, none of them have much aura right now. And that's before we even talk about guys that could've/should've/would've been main event stars like Strowman or Rusev or Big E. Sadly, I think we'll see the same thing with someone like Velveteen Dream - someone whose Takeover matches have become "must see" to me and who oozes charisma and feels like a transcendent star (the way Nakamura did in his WWE debut). But they'll probably have him come in and feud with Robert Roode over the 24/7 Title or whatever and that "specialness" will disappear. So, you're right, it shouldn't be a "Lesnar Or No Stars" situation...but it IS a "Lesnar Or No Stars" situation because unless I'm missing someone, I don't see anyone with the same aura as Lesnar on the main roster currently and, even when the WWE does seem to have someone that has that aura, they crush it almost immediately with 50/50 booking and overexposure.

- Footage of wrestlers standing around in catering being themselves would probably be more interesting, funny, and help said wrestlers get over more than wrestling to be the "LOL Champion" for 3 days or whatever. I mean, did you hear the Good Brothers on Austin's podcast? You can stare at a brick wall and listen to that on headphones and it'll bring more smiles to your face than the average episode of RAW these days. - Saw the Ziggler segment and dug it. I wrote about it in the MITB thread, but I'm far more into actual heel/face drama than "let's see who the better wrestler is" bullshit like the Rollins/Styles match. The Bryan/Kofi Mania match is my WWE MOTY simply because, even if it was imperfect, there wasn't a single "This is Awesome" chant. People cared about who was going to win because Bryan winning would've pissed them off. Owens face/heel flip was too sudden for anyone to really care, but this angle at least started off hot with a heel doing something vicious to a face and the face being sympathetic (and not made to look like an idiot, i.e Kofi ever, even slightly, thinking Owens wasn't going to turn on him).

Just finished the show today. I'm seriously worried what I'll read from the RAW and SD results... - Definitely a candidate for worst PPV of the Network Era. I haven't read the RAW/SD results but, reading through this thread, I also wondered if all the ref screwups was the start of an angle. I kinda hope so because, if not, those ref screw-ups were woeful. - Like 99% of the audience in attendance on Sunday, I don't watch 205 Live and this match makes me think that's the right move. I'll say this too - the production choices around that match were all really poor too. This might be blasphemy or a "hot take" to some but this match, or most any 205 match on a major PPV, would benefit from not featuring elaborate entrances, from not having it take place right after the "international commentator round-up," from not being given more than 7 minutes. The first two things on that list made it clear this was a bathroom break opportunity. The last thing on that list is just poor design. I feel like, when the cruisers were starting to be featured, part of what made it work was that, at the time (95'/96'), you basically had two nobodies come out and, in one segment, they just AMAZED you with their skill. It was "blink and you'll miss it" - but it wasn't their entrances or poses that caught your attention, it was their in-ring ability. Nobody knows who any of these 205 guys are and their gimmicks aren't going to make me care...but if this match had just kickstarted, and they'd done some crazy shit, doing a string of ridiculous moves in under 7 minutes, I'd be like, "Woah, that was a blast!" I may not even watch 205, but I know next time they appear on RAW or SD or a PPV, I'm going to be excited about it (just as people were whenever you'd hear Liger or a Japanese women's tag team match was happening on a WCW PPV). I don't think Rey Mysterio, Psicosis, Juvi, La Parka, etc. would've gotten over without a bit of that "blitzkreig" production style where Nitro almost "jump-cutted" from main event guys (Randy Savage, Ric Flair) cutting promos to, out of the blue, two guys in colorful costumes wrestling a completely different style at a breakneck pace with (admittedly) a bit less focus on psychology. We get enough elaborate entrances from the rest of the roster, that elaborate entrances for nobodies is driving away the live crowd's engagement. - Bayley's cash-in was a great moment. Proves to me that she still has goodwill and support from the audience that the WWE unwisely chose to ignore for the past few years. It was interesting that they mentioned Sasha in the post-match interview too. Maybe she is coming back after all? - I am SHOCKED that some people really liked Styles/Rollins. As a match it was fine, but I found it be heatless and was not really engaged. I was rooting for Styles (kinda) because I dislike Rollins, but the build and "hype" for this match made no sense to me. I can get behind face/face matches when there has been a clear collision course (Hogan/Warrior) or when there is a culture clash (Hart/Michaels). I don't mind a "passing the torch" type deal (again Warrior/Hogan). This was none of those. It was two guys known for having good matches having a good match because they can have a good match and, look, one of them is going to win but they're both really great, right? Yawn. They seemed to try to paint it as Styles being the more seasoned veteran and Rollins "chasing" him, but Styles was never a dominant champion on RAW and Rollins has been in the WWE, in a main event position, for longer too. I know the actual timeline of careers make it clear that AJ is the vet and Rollins is (comparatively) the young lion, but in "WWE age," I don't see the "veteran vs. upstart" dynamic at all. Plus, yeah, with neither guy working remotely heel, this was just a really good exhibition match. - I am ALSO SHOCKED that everyone here is shitting on Brock Lesnar winning the MITB. I found that to be a WELCOME curveball that I didn't see anyone predict before the show. I can't believe that on the same board that regularly bashes Rollins for not eliciting any real responses from crowds, that regularly talks about how the WWE has no stars, that regularly discusses how much the company has failed with Reigns since his return, that we're going to then criticize the WWE for *hopefully* putting the Universal Championship back on Brock Lesnar? Come on. You can't have it both ways. Either you want one of these "good match for good matches sake" nerds to be your champion or you want the title around a guy that evokes a visceral response and a "big fight feel" from the crowd like Lesnar does. The AJ/Rollins match might have been *technically* a great match, but it had zero "big fight feel." Every Lesnar match has that.

The documentary before the match is really fun. The match itself is far from a masterpiece, but I still enjoyed it more than most matches I see on RAW or SD today. Its the little things you get here that I don't think we get today that make the difference. For example, Magee does two armdrags into an armbar and actually looks like he's putting some pressure and torque on the limb, Bret really sells the struggle and works out of the move slowly (telling the story that its not just about pulling his arm out of the hold, which could cost him his arm, but angling out of it so Magee can't just snap it in half with his strength or pull it out its socket). Its such basic offense, but who cares? It has logic that Seth Rollins' repeated suicide dives spot doesn't. Later, Magee backflips off the corner and then hits two dropkicks. They're not the prettiest dropkicks ever, but hey, at the time, you didn't see guys built like Ultimate Warrior leave their feet much. Today, nearly everybody does superkicks, planchas, and moonsaults so seeing a guy with Magee's physique do backflips wouldn't be impressive, but in this context, it popped the crowd huge. The lesson here, to me, is diversity in movesets is something the WWE should consider being a bit stricter on. After getting with the dropkicks, Bret leaves the ring and takes a breather with his manager, Jimmy Hart (whose incessant "C'mon, baby" and taunting of Magee as a "meathead" and "pretty boy" is terrific and sorely missed in today's product), and a fan gives him the bird and tells him to fuck off. Wow...today, there'd probably be a "This is Awesome" chant because audiences are "too smart" to actually boo or cheer characters. Back in the ring they go and Bret takes control. Magee seems out of position for a move here or there, but nothing I'd consider a real "botch" because perfect execution and choreography makes things look less real to me. So, even if Bret doesn't really catch him with all of his elbow from the 2nd rope because Magee sits up/rolls out of position somewhat, it still works because why on Earth would anyone just lie there and take an elbow drop if they had the will and energy to try to dodge it? The same can be said for Bret having to struggle a bit to get Magee up-and-over for an attempted suplex (that ends up leading to the finish). Worth watching for the doc and, because the doc is good, I was totally on-board to watch the match too and I like that they are compiled together so that you don't have to search for it separately.

I didn't like the Firefly Fun House this week. Seems like a punt to me, even if the intention was always to re-introduce the old Bray Wyatt (Now with mask!) through this "new Bray Wyatt" character. Evil children's TV host is a very tough character to turn into a wrestling persona (as we all said after the first video), but I think there was at least a feeling like, "Hey, if you're going to strike out, you might as well take the biggest swing possible." A split personality where one of the halves is just the old Bray Wyatt with a new catchphrase and slightly altered look is meh to me. Its like they actually convinced me that this new persona could work and then pulled it back for something many of us stopped caring about years ago.

Spoiler-Free Thoughts - * I don't watch the TV regularly because life is too short, but I try to keep up online and catch segments here and there. I totally missed that they're going with Charlotte/Becky again. I can't believe there's not more of an uproar online about this and I'm a Charlotte fan. I know there's a term for wrestlers called "go away heat," but this is one of those times where a match itself has "go away heat" from me. Lynch/Flair might have just bumped one level closer to HHH/HBK and Cena/Orton as pairings I wish I didn't waste 30 hours of my life watching wrestle each other. * I like the new Sami Zayn gimmick. Its fine. I don't like them restarting the Sami Zayn/Braun Strowman feud. WWE, if you want your fans to feel like things matter, like every week is a new and exciting show, like I need to tune in or I'll miss something, the first step should probably be making sure you're not running the exact same feuds you did two years ago. * Speaking of Strowman, they really seemed to have cooled on him this year. I forget - did he even appear at WrestleMania? Vince failing to make Braun a star - or even whatever the modern version of that would be in the "Brand Over All Era" - is the equivalent of whiffing at t-ball. It is and should be embarrassing.

Its a weird look to bring an award you received to a meeting, period. If I win a Hot Dog Eating Contest over the weekend, I'm not wearing the medal to my staff meeting on Monday...even if I work at a hot dog factory. That being said, it is also proper manners to congratulate a co-worker for an award they win and if there was any petty jealousy, that'd be equally lame. In response to Charles question, my guess is that she is a consulting producer/writer (?) and is not a full-time one just based on the fact that she won an award for a separate production she was involved in. Maybe something similar to what Freddie Prinze did where I don't think he was punching a timecard 5-days-a-week for the WWE, but was writing/producing/pitching ideas in more of a consultant role (compared to Gerwitz or Ryan Ward or Road Dogg or Russo, who were full-timers, and probably a bunch of other people I don't know the name of). So, for her, the money must be worth it or maybe she's a long-time fan or whatever.

I don't think every wrestler in the WWE is a "geek." I think the booking has failed many of them. Becky Lynch, for example, being considered a "geek" is weird to me - she's pretty badass, great look, natural charisma. Her booking has been shit, but you put a picture of Becky Lynch in 2019 next to a picture of Alundra Blayze in 94' and ask who looks cooler, Becky Lynch wins hands down. I'd also say that Sasha Banks, in NXT, had a great character. Charlotte gets over the "Genetically Superior Athlete" gimmick very well. In the males department, The New Day got over the "larger than life" gimmick quite well. They have flashy colorful clothes. They march around with trombones and throw pancakes around. Its basically a more nuanced High Energy. I'd argue that the issue isn't that they aren't capital-S Superstars, its that this gimmick, like Koko B. Ware or the boomerang-tossing Lanny Poffo or the fun-loving Bushwhackers, doesn't necessarily work at the top of the card without some serious, serious character development. I think they did a good job with Kofi...but maybe not a full, A+ great job. Strowman was booked into being a geek - he wasn't a geek to begin with. Same for Roman Reigns. Bray Wyatt was booked into being a geek but, initially, did have a larger-than-life gimmick and aura. The Miz has loads of charisma, but has been booked up and down the card for so long, he just seems like an aimless character with no motivation. Same with AJ now (and, at one point, the same was true of Jericho and RVD). While I agree that the intensity and larger-than-life characters of the 80s/90s is missing today, I'd also point out that not every star of that era was a steroid-fueled psychopath (in the sense that they gave insane promos, not that they weren't on the juice). For example, Rick Rude was calm, composed, but self-possessed. Mr. Perfect was a cocky snob. Jake The Snake had menace, but he wasn't a brute like Warrior or Hercules. Piper's words got him over far more than his larger-than-life look. Bret Hart eventually got over as a hard-working wrestler. I don't think its far-fetched to say that guys like The Miz, Velveteen Dream, and even Dean Ambrose and CM Punk fit in this mold despite not having huge, over-the-top Road Warrior gimmicks. Now, Owens, Rollins, Ziggler, etc. - yeah, they're geeks. No real gimmick. Fight meaningless matches for the sake of fighting meaningless matches. "Steal the show" bullshit. I'd also just add that not every wrestler I described above is someone I personally like. I'm not a massive Wyatt or Ambrose fan, for example, but that's also something people should be clear about. Just because we don't like a worker, or think they suck, doesn't mean we speak for every fan. Ambrose, for example, was, at a time, very over and clearly the number 2-3 babyface on the roster (maybe it was 2015/16?). Then he was booked like a geek.

So, as the ratings drop the production value will look more and more like college volleyball?

https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/the-xfl-partners-with-disney-and-fox-broadcast-schedule-revealed I'm not super surprised that the XFL got a TV deal, though I'm guessing the networks involved are paying bargain prices for the rights to air these games - with Vince probably agreeing to some sort of "play or pay" situation where, even if the ratings are so abysmal that ESPN or ABC decide to simply air something else, they'll still get paid something. I just don't see Disney forking over big bucks for content that has a very, very steep uphill battle of even matching the weekly 2.0 rating it averaged in 2001* - comparatively the stone age before streaming channels and the "real" internet made much of Network TV obsolete. Plus, he's trying to sell a product that is a proven failure. * note - I did not include the historic 9.5 rating of the first XFL game in my calculations. Nor did I include the 4.6 rating that the second game earned. In 2001, wrestling was mainstream (meaning Vince himself was a mainstream celebrity) and the XFL media campaign was so tremendous that the first game was a "must see" event. That number, and the 2nd week's number, became outliers as the season went on and 80% of the audience abandoned the league. 80%.

- Yeah. I know "ratings don't matter," but a show like Hell's Kitchen brought in 2.5+ million viewers on Friday nights (and is dirt cheap to produce ) and Last Man Standing does 2.5+ million and even The Cool Kids had 2.16 million last week. Their lowest rated show last Friday was Proven Innocent, a new courtroom drama, and it had 1.69 million viewers. Now, that's not that different than SmackDown, which does consistently bring in 2+ million viewers - but Network execs are always searching for a surprise hit and consistency is not necessarily honored over time unless that consistency is winning*. SmackDown is not going to overtake shows on NBC and CBS that bring in 4-7 million viewers on Friday nights even when they're on reruns. So, yeah, as long as Fox is happy with a 3rd place showing, SD is probably safe...but, hey, the TV business has lots of moving and shaking at the top and we saw TNT, TBS, and USA all cancel or let wrestling go (when Raw when to Spike) when new bosses took over, even when they brought good ratings. I tend to agree with the prediction that it will end up on FS1 by the end of 2020 if not sooner. - I was definitely more on Lio Rush's side of things based on what we've seen on Twitter and in various reports...but if you have a second, check out what Mark Henry said in a recent interview about it. As much as it is BS that Lio or anyone else is being asked to carry ice, etc., Henry's take is insightful and does offer an interesting counterpoint. The fact that its coming from Henry also makes me more likely to consider the other side than if it was coming from someone like JBL or HHH. - I can't believe anyone is arguing Vince is in the right about not pushing Harper because he can't do a southern accent. That's Vince saying Luke Harper looks like white trash but doesn't sound like white trash because white trash have southern accents. Even if that wasn't outright classist/regional horseshit, every single one of those writers and producers on staff should've had the guts to tell Vince that good TV writing is often about subverting archetypes. Hannibal Lector was a monster...who talked with serenity and calm. Walter White was sympathetic high school teacher with a deathly ill wife moonlighting as a drug lord! Harper being eloquent and clever adds much more to the character than him being the 2019 version of fucking Skinner. * A quick note - I'm not 1000% sure Hell's Kitchen was airing on Fridays in 2017-18 (Season 18), but that year, its average was actually 3+ million viewers. At one point the show probably did an even bigger number on a different night, but as it started trending below 4, I'm guessing it was sent to the "death night." I bring this up as an example of how a show that is trending down, that does not seem to be picking up any buzz or momentum, is not something Networks tend to prefer over a "shiny new toy" that might be a hit. For the first 6 months of SmackDown on Fox, it will be that shiny new toy and Fox will put money behind it. They want it to succeed. But, right now, the WWE's TV ratings are trending down yearly and that is not something TV networks overlook no matter how much the WWE is reaching "record profits." Fox is in the business of having hit shows, period.

The Moxley video is all sorts of silly/over-the-top/corny with symbolism so "on the nose" that I'm not sure it can even be called symbolism...but I'd be lying to say I wasn't excited about it. El-P mentioned that this video already makes him seem like a bigger star than he ever was in the WWE. I'm going to raise you one further, brother; If this same video was produced by WWE and aired on Raw in the weeks leading up to Dean's return from injury (instead of "Mox," it would just be hyping the return of an "unchained" Ambrose), it would be getting LOL reactions because (1) the video implies that barbwire and blood are in Dean's future and the WWE no longer does that and (2) the WWE's track record of booking stars is so atrocious that no matter how much a wrestler is hyped or promoted, we all know its only a matter of weeks before they're losing in the midcard, doing comedy gimmicks, or reading awful verbiage in the middle of the ring. So, in a sense, even if the WWE could set the table as well as this video does (and I'd argue that they could), its like, did anyone really believe that when Ambrose returned he was going to be treated seriously? How many months did he end up going before that butt injection skit? And , sure, its understandable why they'd pair him with EC3 and Nia Jax after it leaked that he wasn't re-signing...but even if he had re-signed, who would he have been trading wins with? Balor? Maybe feuded with Braun? Those don't sound too bad on paper, but they also don't sound super interesting and would've probably been booked the same as every other "filler feud" that the WWE does in the midcard these days.

Especially because the Lacey Evans character is so strong - just as a gimmick - that it would benefit from her defeating a "less classy" babyface like the "tomboys" Nattie and Bayley or the "crazy" Nikki Cross. I know its not a perfect comparison, but like, it made sense when Luger showed up as the Narcissist that he would feud with Mr. Perfect rather than get thrusted into a title match against Bret. With Evans, you have a gimmick that is based on her being a "lady" and while "The Man" is the obvious feud, its not like you can't run her against other non-traditional symbols of femininity (again, Bayley, Nattie, Cross, and Naomi spring to mind). But WWE booking themselves into dumbass corners is about as new as learning as Raw has hit a ratings low. Meaning: not very.

I'm really curious about the tiered approach. I'm happy with what they offer now for the current price point, though the app itself is definitely in need of repair and upgrades. I don't know what they could possibly offer to make me pay more. And if they take things away from it - for example, if PPVs are put on delay (meaning, for $9.99 you still get every PPV but its a week late), I'm either going to cancel or stick with whatever the lowest tier is (which I assume would be what they offer now). I certainly wouldn't be pay more to watch stuff live when, for the most part, I end up watching stuff a couple days after anyway. I have a sneaking suspicion that many fans are like me too. The Network is really convenient, but if you're savvy enough (or visit the right porn sites), you can usually find these shows within hours of them airing anyway. Eliminating stuff from the app is more likely to convince me to cancel outright than to ever pay more.

My prediction: #FreeSasha and #FreeHarper will become a "thing," and then WWE will try to create their own "#Free____" angle that will be used for Vince to show his incredibly petty side (once again) on TV. "Free Luke Harper" is so chant-able. I'm hoping it catches on.

Oh, absolutely. I think if you had had some sort of Rumble moment or whatever where Big E went face-to-face with Lesnar, the fans would've lost their shit. In an alternate universe, Big E/Lesnar is a WrestleMania main event to me and the build-up writes itself with Heyman and Lesnar laughing off their "comedy opponent" with his pancakes and wiggling and Big E kinda being like, "Yeah, I'm funny...but I'm also a strong ass motherfucker who can beat you."

I'm not sure I 100% agree. While Kofi may not have the traditional "aura," he does have a few things going for him that make me see him as a credible champion. Its not dissimilar to Rey Mysterio, whose championship reigns some people have always frowned upon but I never felt were too cartoonish or unbelievable. Mysterio had pulled plenty of "fluke" victories before and was a veteran so his ability to pull a rabbit out of his hat and outsmart/outwrestle Angle and Orton in a match where the title goes to the first man to get a pinfall made sense to me. Plus, he had the "spirit of Eddie," right? Its pro-wrestling so I don't mind that nonsensical stuff. Kofi is similar to me. Like Rey, he's over and that's kind of all that matters. Like Rey, its not necessarily clear how long this overness will last or even how much has to do with Kofi singularly as opposed to the popularity of the whole New Day gimmick (much like part of Rey's overness in early 06' was clearly tied to Eddie's death). Like Rey, Kofi has never been a guy who dominated opponents - but Rey had plenty of matches where he either beat or almost beat heavyweight wrestlers like JBL, Angle, Booker T, and Jericho. Over the years, Kofi won multiple IC Titles and, though he may have never dominated an Orton or a Sheamus, there's always been a hint that on his best night, Kofi could hang with anyone. Finally, and this is different from Rey, you have a little bit of a reversal on the classic heel stable vs. lone babyface story. Typically, the lone babyface has to combat the numbers game to get a fair shake at the title. With Kofi, its a twist - Kofi is backed up by New Day, who make sure Kofi's matches are on the level. Without the opportunity to cheat (because Kofi's allies prevent it), Kofi faces every challenger on a level playing field - and, traditionally, a level playing field favors the good guy. I know the WWE is reticent to putting Reigns back into a position of getting booed, but I say, feed Owens and whoever else to Kofi all summer. Then, give me a face/face Kofi/Reigns match. I think it would be a "buzz" match. Obviously, many fans would probably boo Reigns, but who knows? Maybe by then part of the audience would want Kofi's run to end. I don't think the WWE would do it, but to me, putting the title on Owens just to get it (eventually) onto Reigns isn't going to entertain (or "fool") anyone. At least Kofi/Reigns is an interesting dynamic.

I mentioned it in my Mania review, but I'll repeat it here because I agree with SomethingSavage... I don't think you'd find many people who would argue Kofi Kingston is a better wrestler than Seth Rollins, but at WrestleMania, Kofi/Bryan wasn't the best match of the night because of any single move or sequence, it was the best match of the night because, for 15 minutes, people cared. You know what didn't happen during Kofi/Bryan? A "This is Awesome" chant. Not once. People were too busy booing Daniel Bryan and cheering on Kofi because they cared about who was going to win and who was going to lose. Now, obviously, Daniel Bryan is an amazing worker and put on a great performance. Kofi held his own too. But that match worked because of the emotion (as SomethingSavage said). Rollins has yet to have a singles match that good or even in the same zip code (hell, not even the same planet). And he's had chances - against Ambrose, against Reigns, against HHH - to tell emotion-driven stories. So I don't personally rate Seth Rollins very high no matter how many matches he's had where people chanted "This Is Awesome" a half-dozen times. Some of those matches were great fun, no doubt. But what's really awesome to me is a match like Kofi/Bryan or Bayley/Sasha or those Revival/#DIY matches or even the (admittedly maudlin) Flair/HBK Retirement match. Those matches were awesome because it mattered to me, and to the audience, who won and who lost. With Seth Rollins, the finish never matters, its always the same match with the same "spectacular moves" with interchangeable, meaningless endings that I'm never invested in.

The reception to the new Bray Wyatt has been positive on every board/site I've visited. I think the introduction is the easy part of any character. Its the fish in their own water. Bray Wyatt hosting a bizarre, surreal 4-minute "children's show" with ugly puppets is great. The hard part is how this character works as a wrestling character. What would motivate this character to enter a wrestling ring and compete? Its been a long time since the days of wrestling dentists and wrestling clowns. Back then, I think the show was so clearly marketed to kids that they got away with everything just being exactly what it was at face value. TL Hopper was a wrestling plumber because...he was a plumber who wrestled. There was no backstory, no purpose, no motivation. For Bray Wyatt, a guy who I believe the company still wants us to regard as a big deal, putting this new character into a wrestling context is going to take work. Like most people, it seems, I'm intrigued.

So, in my years-long quest to watch all the WCW PPVs I've finally reached Starrcade 2000 and Sin. I'm not sure when it started, but on these shows, as I was watching them this weekend, the level of "sweetening" of the crowd noise really, really stuck out to me. I'm not sure why I didn't catch it before. I mean, the crowds here are just visually dead. You can clearly see that nobody, not a single person any of the first few rows from any angle, is standing or screaming or shouting. And yet, the crowd noise for the duration of a 10+ minute Goldberg/Luger match is deafening. When Goldberg does hit a big move, you can hear a clear (and likely real) pop...but you're hearing it over a constant din of crowd noise that is coming from some mysterious portion of the audience that is, inexplicably, as excited and vocal for Goldberg's entrance as they are for both guys selling their exhaustion on the mat in minute 9. WCW was putting on these shows in arenas that held 15-20k fans but only filling a third of them. Obviously, 6000 fans can be plenty loud...but when you can visually see a majority of the audience is sitting completely still, yawning, and casually sipping sodas while the audio makes it seem like you're at WrestleMania III, there's a huge, huge disconnect and now that I've seen it/heard it, I can't unsee it. It makes me wonder how long the "sweetening" was going on and how much of it still goes on today with the WWE. And, if I'm wrong about this, and that was actual crowd noise, then WWE really dropped the ball because if you listen to just the audio of the Mike Sanders/Ernest Miller rematch at Sin, you'll think you're hearing a Road Warriors entrance that's been put on slow motion. Based on the audio, the Natural Born Thrillers were basically DX meets peak-era Horsemen.

I'm one of the few people who liked their match from a few years ago. Here's what I wrote about it at the time from my blog (some edits): The history of the Goldust vs. Stardust feud was replayed before we got Dusty Rhodes in the back with Goldust, the two discussing how this match is about reuniting the family more than it is about wins or losses. From his gait down the aisle, Goldust came into this match with psychology, moving with apprehension, looking not too eager to fight, only taking the offense to seemingly slap some sense into his brother. I like Stardust’s reactions to the crowd chanting "Cody"...while some of the audience seemed bored with the pacing, I found it to be fitting to the story being told. Anyone expecting a vicious, fast-paced brawl was looking in the wrong place as Goldust's hesitation in hurting his brother was the crux of the match and Stardust, weaseling his way to the outside and cheapshotting his opponent at every opportunity, showed arrogance and a willingness to hurt his older brother that came across as personal. Then, you get to the finish - a flash pin that advanced the story and helped define the Stardust/Cody character... Forget the loud, ignorant fan who was chanting "boring" throughout, this match hit the right notes to me. Throw in Stardust's post-match promo, which I found to be well-delivered, purposeful, and captivating, and I'm totally down with this angle, even if I’m in the minority. (3.5/5)

Agreed. I was as critical and down on Carmella as anyone when she first got pushed, but she's clearly come a long way in the past two years. And I think its also to her benefit that her progression has been somewhat tied to her character's development. Like, she started off as an inept heel who targeted a much bigger name to make her own (the Nikki Bella feud), when that didn't work she hired/seduced/manipulated Ellsworth to help her and wins the MITB - the ultimate shortcut to a championship. As she improved, though, she became a babyface and now that she's actually competent, she no longer has to cheat because she's finally been accepted by the fans, blah blah blah. To me, that shows the kinda range where, sure, her current gimmikc is fun dancer/rapper, but I could easily see her becoming a more serious challenger with the kind of storyline you described above. And, because she has range, even if she were to lose that feud to Charlotte, she could go back to being that fun dancer/rapper or they could always turn her again and she'd be a bigger threat because she's not the inept rookie anymore.

Yea. I was a couple beers deep when I wrote that rant. I think what I was trying (but failed) to convey was that, if you look at the female roster, you have a bunch of colorful, interesting characters (moreso than the men). While not every one is a great worker, I'd rather watch Alicia Fox feud with Nikki Cross in a battle of the crazies over just about any Seth Rollins or Dolph Ziggler or Kevin Owens match you could think of. That, at her most heel, Alexa Bliss was one of the best all-around characters on the whole roster - and ran circles around certain guys with more experience and indie cred (*cough* Bobby Roode *cough*) in terms of making me care about their matches. That I think there are interesting stories to tell with Naomi practically living under the glass ceiling, Carmella being a 2nd generation performer, etc.

I always looked at it like this: - 97' - 01' Attitude Era. This era ends with the WCW buyout. - 02'-05' Ruthless Aggression. HHH, Lesnar, and Angle on top. Storylines are generally tasteless. Matches are even more violent than in Attitude Era, but garner less response. Mainstream culture moves on. WWE becomes last bastion for Nu Metal. Envelopes being pushed just to push them (HLA, for example). Ratings plummet as teen boys learn that they can go to internet for this. - 06' - 14' The Cena/PG Era. Less violent, less overtly sexist, way more meta. Sadly, same level of Nu Metal for some reason. Sure, there are flickers of indie wrestling influence seeping in, but by this point, the WWE is so big that the content - good or bad - takes a back seat to the global expansion. - 2014 - Present: The Network Era. Really just a natural continuation of the decade before it. Again, as fans, we care about content, but the WWE is more successful than ever before because of expanding markets. Plus, thanks to the Network, its not just a "PG" brand anymore - its an "everything for everyone" one-stop shop where you can go back and watch old ECW, old WWE, old territory shows, etc.