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Way better match than I would have expected from Global, but it is hardly surprising because both these guys are always at least solid. I liked the two guest heel announcers too, Tatum and Price do really well. Manny gets a little off the rails during his promo, but it's mostly good and he keeps the intensity up.
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Best AAA match so far for sure. Opening mat exchange was amazing. I know I complained about Eddie Gilbert punching the ref with a chain a couple of times blatantly a while back and how it shouldn't be allowed without repurcussions. I take it back here. Punch that bald fuck over and over until he's out. The match will improve. Great dive in caida 3 by Astro, who is such a surprisingly good to great worker.
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Love both of these guys in this match. And the story. One of Han's early bouts he shows his strikes to be almost as good as his grappling and the match suffers for it. Here he plays up Vrij's striking superiority in every way possible and it is just amazing. Even down to the "that didn't hurt" reaction after the third knockdown he suffered that tells you he really is hurt. Not on the list of the best sub-10 minute matches ever, but totally on the list of best sub-11 minute matches ever. And probably one of the greatest worked shootstyle matches you'll see too.
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I thought it was a fun matchup with both guys bringing something fun in a grappling sense to the table. Busting out the Karelin lifts on each other was pretty sweet too. Liked the story of Koba looking like the underdog on paper but being ahead on points due to somehow being able to find counters to everything Zaza did that led to submissions. And Zaza fighitng back with a better striking offense and more flexibility. The kick to Koba's chin while on the mat and the finishing submission were nasty in the most awesome way possible too. At around 11 minutes this one does not overstay it's welcome.
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No expert but Ogawa was always Misawa's buddy. So that may have played into it. And a great opponent. Love when Misawa busts out all of the offense he learned in his excursion to Mexico on Ogawa, offense you never see him use on anyone else. He once got a win over Ogawa (the flip side of this match) with one of those double chickenwing submissions that involved a figure four at the same time. Also, you have to know that Baba was a very slow, slow slow-and-steady booker. The big wins for guys coming from underneath came rarely and meant a lot. It also meant you could predict who was going to take the fall on either team pretty easily and see momentum shifts coming based on who was tagged in against who. As far as the match goes, it's another really good AJPW 6-man from the Jumbo vs. Misawa era. Probably my favorite era of AJPW is 91-mid 94, so this is my bread-and-butter. Love how it is always Taue interrupting Kawada pins and Jumbo is always willing to take those cheap shots at Misawa. And how Taue may be bigger than Kikiuchi, but he takes Kikuchi for granted a little bit and gives him too many chances when he has him down. The way each matchup is wrestled differently in these matches was always a big thing for me. I'll probably still be enjoying them when I'm about ready to retire. Also, Kikuchi getting absolutely murdered by Jumbo is amazing to watch.
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[1992-08-15-USWA-TV] Interview: Eddie & Doug Gilbert & Brian Christopher
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
One thing bugs me about Memphis heels the more I watch. Eddie hits the ref twice with a chain. Anywhere else that would be grounds for the guy never being invited back. But he keeps getting matches somehow. It's hard to reconcile even with suspension of disbelief. Same as some of the rampages the Moondogs went on, needed to be curbed a little to be effective. Great promo though and Christopher is starting to find himself as a heel. -
[1992-08-15-WWF-Superstars] Update: More Summerslam hype
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
Not sure what the Beverly Brothers did to get a title shot. Wonder how that match would play out with bruisers like Bloom and Enos against the big immovable objects. The whole Hart family being torn apart thing is kinda overplayed. You'd think with a family as involved in wrestling as theirs it would be old hat. Also, is it really hard to tell Davey was on the roids? No wonder the WWF got pinched. Not sure on Martel/Michaels. I suppose you need a heel/heel match given how all the big name babyfaces seem to be busy. Bruno's screaming was necessary, but it took away from the promo for me. As did Kamala. Honestly the tag match for curiosity and the Hart vs. Davey are all I would want to see on the card.- 9 replies
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[1992-08-15-WWF-Superstars] Randy Savage and Mr. Perfect
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
Not a fan of the idea of both big babyfaces courting the #1 heel manager. But I kinda get what Flair and Perfect are doing. Eh, it kind of works. -
I would also say that the post-match is the best part of this. And that the tag from the earlier show was better. That being said, one Hell of a spotfest and props to these 2 (Yamada especially) for being able to cut this pace.
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Great tag match with a bunch of different stories going on. Yamada's disgust with the partner's tactics ends up hurting her team more than anything else and they lose decisively.
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Solid match between a couple of really green guys. As mentioned previously they keep it simple and that helps.
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Not truly a match but a spectacle with truly no comparison in the world of wrestling. Still hard to say if that is in an entirely or mostly bad way.
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I come down somewhere in between Sleaze and the people who love this match. On the plus side I really dug the opening matwork. Struggle along with both guys aiming at important targets, as well as Chono staying really active throughout. The match lost me a little in the middle of the finish run when they slowed it down, but not enough that they didn't have me back by the end. I liked the finish not coming from the STF. If more matches ended with unexpected moves the finishers would have more impact. I wouldn't call it a great match, but I'd say it was really, really good with some major flaws that drag it down a little.Great work by Rude for sure.
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[1992-08-12-NJPW-G1 Climax] Rick & Scott Steiner vs Keiji Muto & Kensuke Sasaki
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
I want more of the Keiji Mutoh who is here to entertain first and foremost that we got here. Amazing performance and Sasaki was really game here as well. Not much to add on this one, just a super fun bomb-fest with all four guys seemingly having a good time.- 12 replies
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[1992-08-12-NJPW-G1 Climax] Jushin Liger vs Wild Pegasus
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
I would swear that backslide won Benoit a match against Liger previously. Most of what I would say has been covered, but I really did enjoy this match as a sprint with a power vs. guile story. That baseball slide was easily the best one I've ever seen. Never been a fan of the pointless, feeling-out matwork they do in NJPW. It rarely figures into anything except for passing time. Here they at least kept it mostly to the neck-based holds that actually do come into play later, so it isn't as bad as it could be with a bunch of arm and leg work that goes nowhere.- 12 replies
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Great match for all of the reasons above. I would add the following. Atlantis losing the first fall after hitting a couple of big moves on Charles that he couldn't follow up on because of the bad shoulder and then Charles putting him away with a quikc follow-up move after a dropkick was genius. Charles got away from the arm in caida 2, which is why Atlantis was able to hit a few high impact moves that targeted his back and finish him with the abdominal stretch. If it had been caida 3 I would have been upset, caida 2 makes sense. I called the finish once Charles started rolling him up over and over. The fact that Charles went for a leg submission to set it up made it much better, but it made so much sense given the rest of the match.
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I really, really wanted to like the matwork in the opening part of the match. I actually did like the really awkward, between-submissions positions both guys got stuck in a couple of times. Once Mutoh took charge I thought it was too little Chono for a long, long time. And the thing that really got to me about it didn't hit until after a bunch of Mutoh nearfalls that the crowd just wasn't even beginning to care about. Once Mutoh misses the moonsault and Chono grabs the STF the crowd is alive for the first time since the opening sequence. And Chono had barely gotten offense in the preceding 8 minutes of the match. Was the crowd hip to Mutoh not winning this match all along? Were they not into his offense? I thought he had a lot of cool offense and a good amount of it focused on the neck, which Chono sold like a champ. For whatever reason I didn't find it as compelling as I thought I should have. Then more Mutoh nearfalls and more crowd not buying it and Chono makes his comeback before that goofy Yakuza kick-dropkick thing. At best you get 2 or 3 repetitions before one guy catches on and punishes what he knows is coming for all he's worth. Instead it wiped out pretty much the entire match that came before it. Chono kept getting up just a little quicker than Mutoh, showing more resilience I imagine, but he had taken the lion's share of the damage leading up to it and hadn't worn Mutoh down much at all. If the first two-thirds was uninspiring for reasons I don't understand, I can at least put into words why I didn't like the finish.
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[1992-08-11-NJPW-G1 Climax] Rick Rude vs Kensuke Sasaki
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
I liked this a lot more than the Hashimoto match. Up until the closing stretch Sasaki was all over Rude's back and Rude was trying to protect the back as much as possible. I thought this was really tight and even Sasaki was doing some good work selling for Rude down the stretch.- 14 replies
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[1992-08-10-NJPW-G1 Climax] Rick Rude vs Shinya Hashimoto
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
I wouldn't say this was a bad match. I'd also not put it above "good" which seems like less than you'd expect from these 2. What I liked: Rude's selling was top-notch. Hash brought some really great kicks to the match for sure. I did like Rude staying true to who he was at the time. I know it's in NJPW, but too many changes and it doesn't make sense. What I didn't like: This is a criticism I have of many NJ juniors matches of the later 90s and I wonder if it just isn't lazy booking on somebody's part. Going to the top way too often without any real good reason killed this match more than any camel clutches Rude could do. Rude's offense did not hold up next to Hash's. He needed to work a little stiffer. After that first third of the match up to the finish nothing had much consequence for more than about 30 seconds. I hadn't thought of this watching the match, but Loss may have a point with the bit about both guys used to being in charge.- 22 replies
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[1992-08-08-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Jake Roberts
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
Jake with a great promo that takes shots at both his dad and the Hulkster. In a perfect world Jake would have at least had some control over his bad habits and had an amazing career. I'll settle for the amazing tidbits that he did leave behind. Such a great heel promo.- 10 replies
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[1992-08-08-WCW-Saturday Night] Big Van Vader vs Ron Simmons
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
As TV matches go, this is pretty amazing. Watts, for all his faults and prejudices as a booker, knew how to get the crowd worked up and it's nice to see a guy like Simmons at least get this moment. Regardless of the run he follows this with, I can't imagine he has ever forgotten that match or the post-match. The promo was perfect for what it was supposed to be too.- 18 replies
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Good not great match, but the reasons for that were addressed above. Corny killed it before and after the match. Loved Bobby Fulton saying the HBs had to wait.
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[1992-08-08-SMW-Fire on the Mountain] Heavenly Bodies vs The Fultons feud recap
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
Great feud recap and I think it definitely tops Lawler/Jeff vs. Moondogs. Can't wait for the cage match!- 8 replies
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[1992-08-08-SMW-Fire on the Mountain] Rock & Roll Express vs Stud Stable
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in August 1992
As mentioned before, by-the-number RnR tag. Which is a perfectly fine thing. Good heel beatdown after to set up whatever the gimmick match ends up being. Nice to see Ricky and Robert working together again and the crowd loved it.- 10 replies
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