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Great show. Everything but the cruiser match was a lot of fun. Goldberg returning to squash Brock might be the moment of the year. WCW finally won the Monday Night War.
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LOL. Oh. Canada. Potential MOTY, but other than that easily the worst Takeover ever. London and The End were both trash
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DIY/Revival was about as good as pro wrestling can get in 2016. I can't think of anything on that level that I've seen this year from WWE (including NXT), NJ, or indies.
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Today Sid is ironically liked in an MST3K kind of way, or considered one of the worst wrestlers to ever get mega pushes. There is a podcast dedicated to bad wrestling of the 1990s, and they just attempted to do a Sid match marathon. I guess your Sid comparasion is akin to JvK's constant wondering how Chief Jay Strongbow is remembered fondly by fand s of the time and given strong pushes. Sid wasn't ironically liked during his time. He was over. Everywhere. At times super over. With his look and weird charisma, it was a no brainer to push him to the top your cards. You don't have a guy like Sid and have him toiling away in the mid card for years. Of course he wasn't a great worker, but when has that ever been the most important thing about getting a push in America? As part of the Skyscrapers and Horsemen, got SID SID SID chants a month into his JCP/WCW run. Went to WWE and was instantly more over than Hogan (who, granted, was on the decline, but still). Went back to WCW, got cheered over Sid. Went back to WWF in 1996, turned MSG into a bunch of screaming marks for a muscled up stiff who "can't work" over who was considered to be probably the best worker of the 90s in HBK in the smark capital of of the world. Went back to WCW, was the most over guy in the company besides Goldberg. That's not ironic. It's not ironic to understand why he kept getting the main event pushes in his career. Him being a flake was his biggest detriment, not his lack of ring skill.
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It's strange for you to think this guy: was the center of any promotion? How do you have a guy who looks like Sid and NOT push him as high as you possibly can on the card? A dude who got super over both in 1989 JCP/WCW and got notoriously smarky MSG to turn on who had been considered one of if not the best worker in the US of the 1990s.
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How does play-doh, coloring books, and safety pins do anything to ease these fears, though? It gives people an outlet to relieve stress, which is an important part of mental health and when people mock it, it sends a message that you should just internalize everything which tends to not be healthy. The safety pin thing was just a form of silent protest as far as a I can gather. Just to let the world know you aren't down for this bullshit about to happen. People are mocking it because you're giving adults play-doh and coloring books to work out their issues with the election. That's ridiculous. Having gathering and talking about things like adults? Makes perfect sense. This type of infantilization is exactly why these people can't understand how their side didn't win since they were on the good side and good always wins. The pins are for white people to let people of color and religious minorities know that they aren't racist. Which means absolutely dick. Go get involved with your community, go to BLM protests, go do charity work and out reach programs. The safety pin is the peak of of self congratulatory bullshit that is allows white people to feel morally superior without having to actually do any work. A silent protest means absolutely nothing when you're the group least impacted by what you're protesting.
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How does play-doh, coloring books, and safety pins do anything to ease these fears, though?
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One campus was going to give students Play-Doh to work out their feelings on the election. Adults. Being given PLAY-DOH. Because they're upset. I think eventually they realized how ridiculous that was and canceled the event.
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There you go again. First, you keep saying it's obvious, except it's not obvious from the words he said and the actual clip if you watch it. Second, you also continue to ignore how deliberately disobeying a promoter's orders and then posting a self-righteous littered with lies non-apology, apology letter would look to other wrestling promotions he was associated with. So wrestling twitter is so self-righteous now they take it upon themselves to hound wrestling promoters to fire people who .. disobeyed their boss in another company? Are we happy with that? Seems pretty invasive to me. And not only that, it casts all the people from twitter like a collective bunch of petty tell-tale tits. If I ever bunk off work I better not tell them, I guess, lest they start telling every university around not to employ me. It's CLEARLY about the offensiveness of the comment. There is literally no other narrative you can weave about this that doesn't make wrestling twitter seem like the biggest bunch of cunts of all time. So tread carefully. Joey got fired from Beyond and Chikara because he showed himself to be a misogynist jerk. Chikara made that really clear with their letter, they do not condone that. A LOT of people have made "grab them by the pussy" jokes since that tape came out. Like, pretty much every comedian in the US. Are they all misogynist for making a joke about that situation? The joke is already ultra played out, which means that pretty much everyone immediately made their own joke about it, generally all being pretty similar because there are only 2-3 jokes that can come from such a thing. Is making a joke about what Trump said ever not misogynist? There's a big difference between making that joke before the Trump tape and after.
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You know what I always say: If good's on the left then I'm stickin' to the right Wait. AC/DC, Alt-Right confirmed.
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I don't think anyone is arguing about Gabe's right to fire Joey, are they? Seems like the one thing everyone is in agreement on is that Gabe had every right to fire Joey. The conversation is about if what Joey said was truly offensive or not, and if the joke was about sexual assault or not. My argument is that it wasn't offensive and wasn't about sexual assault, but it was tasteless and unfunny, and he definitely deserved to be fired if Gabe specifically told him not to say anything political in nature, then he made a show out of saying something political in nature, thumbing his nose directly at Gabe, a guy he had known for 20+ years for no reason other than he has no idea how to fill time without trying to be edgy. Or what counts as edgy for a 45 year old announcer who sells coins on the side, at least.
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I think Gabe's previous record of offensive angles (be it racist/misogynistic/homophobic/all of the above) and his penchant for booking terribly stupid worked shoots should always be on the table when something that creates controversy happens on one of his shows.
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So you think calling Hathaway pussy was a tag instead of the punch line? The entire first part is a set up to call Hathaway a pussy. The "Trump would" part wasn't a joke or a punch line at all. It was barely even a set up, but it was certainly closer to a set up in structure than punch line.
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Again, the punch line isn't about sexual assault. The punch line is calling someone a pussy. The Trump sexual assault part was the set up. Not that that makes it better or okay, but shit, at least learn your joke structure before you start throwing out the terms. I find it curious that people aren't upset about the actual punchline, where Joey used what most would consider an offensive gendered insult with the intention of demeaning another's sexuality. Toxic masculinity, as it were. It's almost like people stopped watching after the set up.
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I can't stop laughing at this
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Of course he sucks. He sucked in ECW, too. I think everyone had the same reaction to Joey being brought into EVOLVE in the first place: Why?
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As a way to circle around to calling SH a pussy. Which is not the same as "laugh at sexual assault, every body". Certainly misguided, certainly unnecessary, but the joke wasn't about Trump or sexual assault. He said she was going to be sexually assaulted for being physically attractive. That makes it sound like he was threatening her or something. It's missing some context, but the point of what he said was to be an insult towards SH, not her or victims of sexual assault. He took the worst possible path to get there, though. There were at least 3 grab 'em by the xyz jokes on SNL, none of them were jokes ABOUT sexual assault.
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As a way to circle around to calling SH a pussy. Which is not the same as "laugh at sexual assault, every body". Certainly misguided, certainly unnecessary, but the joke wasn't about Trump or sexual assault.
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The actual clip is not nearly as offensive as you'd be led to believe by the response it generated online. The audience kind of groaned, then popped when he turned it around to be talking about Stokely. And the popped when he said the announcer looked lovely at the start. Dude got canned not because of a sexual assault joke, but because he did exactly what Gabe told him not to do, and then made a show of doing exactly what Gabe told him not to do.
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That sounds like a disaster either way, tbh. I don't see how that doesn't get blown up within a week.
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WWE Network should really be running election coverage. Imagine the hot takes from Booker all day in front of that hilarious green screen set they have.
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Are we sure about that, or did Gotch just get punished because he lost the fight? I could see WWE being that petty. Jericho by all accounts expect his say he lost this fight, but Hunico was the one tossed of the bus
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I didn't put the blame on anyone. A guy who fights and a guy who gets obnoxious when drinking overseas....fights happen. But who is the guy with the anger issues in this situation? Jericho has been in as many fights as Hunicara.
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Jericho is a known obnoxious party guy especially on the overseas tours. Hunicara will beat the breaks off of anyone. Makes sense to me.
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My biggest issues are the stretched 16:9 content, and the what feels pretty shady in the Cleeng third party. That sign up doesn't tell you you're actually giving your info to a 3rd party, and then you can't even check your account status via the NWAOD site itself, only knowing where to check it from an email receipt is pretty gross. Especially since signing up for the trial auto signs you up for the $99 a year plan unless you cancel, which you can't cancel without going to a secondary site.