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So focus on what she did, not what she is.

Can a mod please split these last few pages off to a new topic? We are way, way, way past the point of this "not warranting a thread."

I couldn't find the original angle on Beau James' big 1986-89 set that he was selling, and he said he included everything that he could find. Now, I didn't watch the set comprehensively but I was on the lookout for it as I was ripping discs. It's also not on ArmstrongAlley's Continental playlist on Youtube. Unless the Wrestling Epicenter list is out of order, it goes from 7/9/88 (Humongous vs. Intruder, Davis vs. Alan Martin) to 8/6/88 (Prichard vs. Mike Starr). The angle was on 7/30.

Am I correct that for such a 1988 newsletter sensation, the Eddie Gilbert/Willie B. Hert son angle isn't actually in circulation? I chatted with Bix about this and he's not entirely sure either, but I haven't seen it in goc's Continental footage or any other sources of Alabama wrestling. I've found a very brief highlight clip from a certain tape-trader in Western PA, though.

And top of that, knowing Keith the odds are 2-1 that it was just some dude posing as Borga. "Warrior was supposed to be the one to sell out to Mr. Perfect" is another one that's gotten a huge amount of traction and I'm pretty sure is 100% bullshit. It doesn't really make any sense and when I watched the '92 Yearbook I didn't get any sense or hints that there was going to be any Warrior turn. The pre-MNW WWF was usually not in the business of turning a major babyface out of the blue like that--if there were plans for him to turn, there'd be some kind of on-air hint of it.

Same here. Though it could just be that it was an IC title match in the spring of '99 and that meant that more often than not the title was getting switched.

Even though sex with a minor is what the charges seemingly amounted to, Walker was one of 9 participants involved in a gang rape. It wasn't just an 18-year old running around with a 15-year old. And considering this was the early 1950's I have to imagine this girl had to have been fucked up bad for charges of any kind to stick.

Mongo was awesome as both an announcer and a wrestler. I mean, in some ways he was terrible, but in many ways he was great--both ironically and unironically. My favorite unironic Mongo image is his first Nitro run-in after turning at the Bash, killing Randy Savage with the briefcase during a match against Flair. Mongo in the all black and shades actually looked like a cool, intimidating motherfucker. What I'm really trying to say is, this thread is apropos, and I ain't talkin' 'bout diggin' around in the dirt with farm implements, baby.

I'm sure Brian would try to point to the Superpodcast as evidence that he's a draw, but I can't help but think that if that was bringing in beaucoup bucks, we'd be getting episodes more than once every 5 months.

How do you say "bald-headed geek" in French?

Depends. Is he still in prison?

Shrug. Talking about old stuff is our world now.

So...Scott finally reviewed that episode of WCWSN with the Muta-Armstrong match on it this morning. He gave it **1/4 and apologized for talking the match up years ago. We've got an epic thread shitting all over him, we may as well give him some props for when he does the right thing.

Per Cornette: in early '90 Douglas was booked for a TV match against Cornette that was supposed to end on a DQ. Douglas was upset that he wasn't even able to pin a manager, so he went over the heads of Cornette (who booked the program) and Flair (the head booker) directly to Jim Herd to get it changed. I think a lot of the animosity started there. Douglas may have had a right to be upset, but a.) Cornette was the one guy on the committee trying to do something with the Dudes, and b.) going over your boss' head for a fairly simple complaint is a pretty bullshit tactic.

The 12/82 match is on A Certain Tape-Trader in Western PennsylvaniaTM's Classic Germany #5, though I don't know that it's been online before. (Both Slaughter/Wanz matches are on it.)

The most amusing of these stories to me is what caused Jason Alexander to get the most hate-mail of anything George ever did on Seinfeld: not brushing off Susan's death, not breaking up marriages, not desecrating Yankee memorabilia, not trying to use his girlfriend's aunt's funeral to get a plane ticket discount...it was for eating the eclair out of the trash.

Interestingly, there was noise in 1997 about a meeting between George Steinbrenner and Eric Bischoff to hold a Nitro at Yankee Stadium. That would have been maybe the ultimate "fuck you" move from Bischoff and now I'm kind of sad it never came to be.

In the build-up to SummerSlam '88, the identity of Brother Love's guest was kept secret and even hyped as "someone who had never appeared in Madison Square Garden before." This was apparently supposed to be Ric Flair's debut, but it didn't happen and we got an underwhelming interview with Hacksaw Jim Duggan instead. But for them to kinda-sorta hype a special debut on television meant that things had to be very, very close to happening. (Yes, yes, Flair had worked an MSG shot in 1975--in that continuity it didn't count.)

I mean, "good-looking" isn't really that far from "babyface," is it? And in the UK it's "blue-eye," which could probably sound as equally nonsensical to foreign ears. Slang can be weird and inside-industry slang weirder still.

If I'm thinking of the same move, which I may not be, Kent Walton just called it a folding press.

I heavily disagree that Russo has a grip on reality but for reasons not relating to prowrestlingonly so I'll do a little passive-aggressive "bring it up and leave it at that" bit. Also, "creativity" is overrated in wrestling.

No, I don't find that take to be normal at all for someone involved in the business. I don't think many of us are all that enamored with making the business your life, but for a lot of people, it is. And not just Cornette. And in some ways "it's just wrestling, bro" is pretty disrespectful to them. It's "just wrestling" but it's also their livelihoods and in some cases the only life they know. It's a healthy attitude for fans, but dismissive to the actual workforce.

I feel like that's another point against him, actually.

July of 2021, maybe. There won't be a vaccine until fall 2021 at the very earliest, but I could see limited gatherings if we vastly increase the supply of tests and preferably if some sort of treatment--not a vaccine, necessarily--is discovered and mass-produced before then. But, those are huge "ifs." Especially in the U.S. Japan could be up and running before then, but alongside sporting events and concerts in front of crowds, I feel like international travel is going to be one of the absolute last things to return to "normal" if such a thing is possible.

Indeed, Trump is very much an "experimented politician," and the experiment is a colossal failure.