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Orndorff cuts a heated promo promising revenge on Dr. Death for a sneak attack from behind. I seem to recall the Orndorff/Doc feud being the one of two really worthwhile products of the UWF (the other being the rise of Cactus Jack).
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Cornette presses Hayes & Garvin on the identity of their mystery partner for their Main Event match tomorrow--Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy are teased, which is downright unfair. Hayes gets in some cheap slurs about American Indians, bringing out the Renegade Warriors to rebut--they wear paint because they're warriors, not sissies! Not a bad segment but it's really, really hard for me to get excited about the Renegade Warriors against anybody, and even harder when that "anybody" is the '90s Freebirds.
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[1990-10-20-USWA-Memphis TV] Interview: Bill & Jamie Dundee
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
Bill explains what a horrible age 19 is. Jamie can make all of his own decisions now, as long as they're what Bill says. -
[1990-10-20-USWA-Memphis TV] Interview: Dirty White Boy & Doug Gilbert
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
Dirty White Boy has offered to set up Brickhouse Brown on a date, and produces a picture of the Dirty White Girl's maid, "Sweet Georgia Brown"--Brickhouse in the wig and make-up from the past studio angle. The USWA went over its Unified title rankings earlier, which is a nice touch. Doug Gilbert complements that by running down the top contenders to the Tag Titles--fearsome names such as the Fabulous Kangaroos, the Interns, Kurt & Karl Von Brauner, and Ken Raper & Freezer Thompson. Oh, and Brickhouse Brown & Dan Davis at #100. Dave Brown's exasperated reactions to the names are what really enhance this. DWG has sort of developed a ditzy rich-white-trash persona. She gets the champions' challenge over, at least: Davis & Brown can have a title shot if they put up $5,000 that they've previously won from Doug. -
Highlights of Callous set to AC/DC music as he absolutely brutalizes some guys. Amazing that WCW was unable to hang on to this guy when they had him. Lawler puts over the advantages of Mean Mark having Downtown Bruno in his corner, the deadliness of the heart punch, and his inability to pin Callous in the tournament. Good, to-the-point stuff.
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[1990-10-20-USWA-Memphis TV] Interview: Eddie Gilbert
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
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Let's not overlook the "dream match" factor--in a PWI MOTY discussion, that matters. Even if you didn't specifically lay in bed at night dreaming of such a match, it was WCW's two top singles babyfaces taking on the top babyface tag team. It's a few years after the equivalent of Dusty & Magnum going against the Rock 'n Roll Express, or maybe the MegaPowers against Demolition. These matches just didn't happen in the early '90s. Workrate is usually a secondary (or nonexistent) factor in judging PWI awards.
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This reminds me of something Abraham Lincoln supposedly said, when prodded about his excessively long legs: legs must only be long enough to reach the ground. There have been matches on the yearbook/'80s sets that ended just as they got going, and there have been matches on the sets that needed an editor. The first Larry Z/Bockwinkel match on the AWA set barely goes 5 minutes and Larry gets in all of one offensive move, but I could see it finishing in my top 25, because it told everything that it needed to tell in that time.
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Yes, they teamed up at the beginning of Greg's career. Fun note: so as not to make Johnny out to be too old, they were initially billed as the Valentine Brothers.
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Imaginary Comps Named After Famous Albums
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Marquee Moon A compendium of main event matches in which the heels' tights were pulled down. -
Didn't need a payoff, though one could easily inquire as to why we needed a cage otherwise. If Bull had won outright I'd be perfectly fine with that. I'm just not a fan of Bull's "first" loss (that we see) coming in rather screwy fashion, with the purposely shitty officiating and cage escape. God help me for making this comparison but it's not unlike Ryback's first loss coming as a result of a cheap referee double-cross/fast-count.
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I'm still getting freaked out watching Jake's treatment. Martel gives us a preview of the Axe/Tag body spray ad campaign--Arrogance will make babes 18 to 80 crawl all over you. You'd think Rude and Martel would be natural allies--or enemies. Rude is back to being a cartoon character--he's trying but this material is not what he needed at all. I prefer Heenan trying to paint himself as standing up for all the prisoners that the Boss Man abused in jail. I wonder how long they were sitting on the idea of Nailz.
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Taue and Kobashi both take a real beating here, as both men step up to fill the void of Tsuyoshi Kikuchi as designated whipping boy. I loved Kobashi popping out of his half crab to level Jumbo with a lariat when he tried to make the save, and Jumbo replaying the same spot later when Misawa tries to break up the power bomb attempt. This is based a little more on heated brawling than later 6-mans in this feud which were based on pretty moves, though we had those here, too. All that said, I think the two earlier 6-mans were both better.
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Overlong match that goes to a time limit draw, because in the UWF every match may as well be Roddy Piper vs. Stan Hansen. Kind of sad that this was the setting of their most high-profile one-on-one bout.
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[1990-10-15-UWF-TV] Captain Lou's Corner: Ivan Koloff
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
That wasn't about Ivan loving America, that was purely about burning hatred for Paul Jones. The team with the JYD was just an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" incident. Ivan with words for his former nephew Nikita. Ivan throws in some cheap-heat support for Iraq as his babyface turn is more or less Stalinized from history. This is a legitimately good promo from Ivan underneath all that.- 6 replies
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[1990-10-14-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Big Boss Man
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
Boss Man's voice is cracking as he's gone from being protected by his mother to being her protector. This is a feud with a bad beginning and a bad ending considering BBM/Rude never came off. The performances of Rude and the Boss Man both are crying out for a better premise than this. -
[1990-10-13-WWF-Saturday Night's Main Event] Oktoberfest!
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
Other than the Bushwhackers segment which goes on like a too-long one-joke SNL sketch, these are uniformly hilarious. Seeing Bret in this environment might be the highlight, but almost everything about this is WWF-style EntertainmentTM at its very best. -
[1990-10-13-WWF-Saturday Night's Main Event] Randy Savage vs Dusty Rhodes
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
Good Lord, the feud that's had more resurrections than the Friday the 13th, Halloween, and Nightmare on Elm Street franchises combined returns to haunt us again. Still, even though I consumed way more WWF product than was healthy as a young Hulkamaniac, I've never, ever seen this angle before. So it has something for me to look forward to. This is a triumph of Pat Patterson or whoever laid this out. Again, not a great match, but Savage and Dusty know or were instructed exactly what to do to get full attention on the angle with DiBiase when necessary (probably helps that Savage, he of the laying out of matches beforehand, was involved). The tension and conflict between Dustin and DiBiase is built up to just enough so it looks natural (heh heh) when Dustin finally clocks Ted and the beatdown gets on. Then even more tension in the ring as Dusty has his back turned beating on the Macho King while Dustin gets destroyed on the floor. Dustin eats a wooden chair to the head and gets busted open (!!!). Dusty finally sees this and goes out to run off DiBiase, but at the expense of taking an axhandle from Savage and getting counted out. At that point all he can do is cover Dustin to prevent any further damage, but DiBiase has made his point. WWF Angle of the Year. This had an AMAZING "organized chaos" feel to it that simply was not seen on SNME in particular or even the WWF product as a whole, but those WWF production values still gave the angle every bit of impact that it needed. You had a bunch of fans getting out of their seats to see what was happening with Dustin and DiBiase and then you really, REALLY are exhorting for Dusty to see what's happening. And of course, blood (!!!). The blood is never acknowledged at all but there's a nice close-up of Dustin's head at the end. Part of me wonders if he wasn't busted hardway by the chairshot, but it doesn't matter. And of course nobody can put over anguish like Dusty Rhodes. All the goofy shit about Sapphire getting "bought" is firmly shunted to the background now. You know it's a good angle when a fabulous Sherri performance is reduced to footnote status. -
Hawk cuts possibly the greatest Oktoberfest-themed promo possible. Pun-filled in that SNME fashion but still pure Hawk. I'm not sure anyone was quite aware of the implications of three ostensible babyfaces chanting BLITZKRIEG. Annoying Germany references on commentary aside this served its purpose. Nothing close to a great match but legitimately heated and gives anyone who really wanted to see LOD vs. Demolition what they wanted.
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[1990-10-13-WWF-Saturday Night's Main Event] Show opening
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1990
I'm really enjoying the barely-under-the-surface tension between Vince and Hotrod. Piper continues to shit on the Warrior. -
Great match. Even Lane's standard offense stood out as looking good. Eaton has the physical skills to take everything the Steiners want to dish out and the ring smarts to have it all make sense. Scott busts out a funky counter to Eaton grabbing his leg to block a kick, and then a fantastic sequence of Eaton trying to superplex Scott and ending up on Scott's shoulders to set up the Steiner Bulldog. I normally wouldn't like such a killer move being rolled out early on but both Midnights sell it great, with Lane pulling Eaton out of the ring to recover. We get some comedy from Rick working the Midnights from all fours, some timely Cornette interference for a hot near-fall, and an ending that works. This is not far off from the highest-end tag matches of the year.
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If I remember Foley's first book correctly...absolutely not.
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Didn't watch the match but it's in two parts on Youtube. That would indicate that it's a longer bout which would point to this: - Ted Dibiase (w/ Virgil) defeated Paul Roma via submission with the Million $ Dream at 10:01 (1/4/89; Birmingham, AL; Jefferson Civic Center) And DiBiase's announced from his winter residence.