PeteF3
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Guess if Lawler's going to be a politican he's gotta have a significant other, so Stacy's back with him.
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Yes, it's a step down, but the match-up is fresh--TARU's in for SUWA and it's interesting to see Tiger Mask 4 and the two Kaientai guys teaming together, as though they're dealing with a bigger, incoming threat. It had the decency not to wear out its welcome, also. -
Yeah, I'm more open to this style than OJ but I didn't see the big deal about this one either. There were highlights, like Spike's balcony dive, Balls throwing an awesome superkick, and Spike hitting the Acid Drop on D-Von while also legdropping Bubba Ray for a hot nearfall. But the stabby-cutty stuff was whatever, Styles continues to ruin what could be great false finishes, and I don't get what rehashing exactly what we saw before with Balls and the flaming table is supposed to accomplish, other than to tell us that Balls is the only person willing to take the bump. And the Dudleys are getting to be as bad as 1996 NWO or '97 DX in terms of vanquishing their babyface opponents every time out. There are many crazy ECW brawls that are much worse than this but there are also a lot of better ones.
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This was a lot of fun, especially when Tanaka and Kanemura were in together. Maybe a few too many near-falls and saves for my liking (there's the thing about dumb babyfaces again--there are a few instances of the other 2 guys standing there picking their noses while the other heels dive back into the ring to rescue Hido). But with the stakes here I guess that's okay, and we get the right result. The Memphis influence is particularly strong here with that post-match.
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[1981-10-30-Houston Wrestling] Dick Slater vs Evan Johnson
PeteF3 replied to shoe's topic in October 1981
I had no idea Johnson ever worked outside the AWA. This looks very shootish and non-cooperative at times but I think that was just Johnson never really getting the hanging of working. -
The red trunks say Sakaguchi but the hair and face make me unsure. That could be Strong Kobayashi (also wore red) or the Great Kusatsu (had the flattop haircut).
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This guy: I don't know if he's ever been mentioned by name on TV, but one of Carmella's NXT videos acknowledged that she was second-generation and showed a brief clip of him.
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Nash in his tie-dye and leather pants is just the coolest motherfucker ever. I know this because Bischoff tries to put over his booking talent, calling him a "great mind," and putting the 39-year old Nash over as the "possible future of wrestling." Savage substitutes for Sid because reasons. "YOU ARE AT THE CROSSROADS OF A VICIOUS CAREER." God, Savage has NOTHING. Savage claims he pinned Nash last night but doesn't even come off well in a Hollywood Hogan delusional-heel sense. This crowd is not particularly happy about getting this instead of their announced main event. We get an exact replay of last night with Nash beating up Savage's ladies while Savage can't do anything, only for Sid to run in. Sting makes the save. Like I said after the Fingerpoke, this is pretty much all new to me. I've decided that I will not get overly angry at WCW now, and my laugh-filled reactions to what I've seen of this time period seem to support that. No matter how bad Bischoff's commentary gets, or how bad the booking gets, or how bad the execution of the bad booking gets...as ElP did his best to do I'm just going to enjoy the ride and the after-the-fact schadenfreude when this all comes crashing down on Eric's head.
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Konnan and Rey beat La Parka and somebody and are mobbed in celebration by the Zambuie Express while Bischoff treats this like the most historic win in history. "YOU STILL WANT P, COWBOY?!" Hmm...yeah, those sound like boos to me, along with groaning. P yammers some, but it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. Right as we go to break, Bischoff desperately tries to fit in the tidbit that the WWF supposedly offered them 3 times the money WCW did.
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Bischoff makes sure to beat over our heads that veterans will always find a way to outsmart youngsters. The idea of Piper "knowing his own weaknesses" is...oh, I can't keep typing "LOL" or fake-laughing at every single WCW segment, but that's what it is. Eric is rambling about nothing in particular instead of putting over the finish.
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This is basically what the planned Ric Flair appearance at Over the Edge '98 was going to be (except they were also going to publicly honor the man named Flair who'd recently won a North Carolina wrestling championship, referring to Reid, and ohbytheway Ric's sitting next to him).
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Swoll is being put over already. My past shame is that in high school I was an obsessive Smashing Pumpkins fan and a regular reader of their old Usenet newsgroup, on which a quasi-feud erupted between Pumpkins fans and Master P fans because both of them were releasing albums at the same time and both fanbases wanted to be #1 on the Billboard charts. And that and his work as a sports agent is about my entire familiarity with Mr. P. Again, hitching onto him isn't a horrible idea in the abstract but this is carried out in about as uncool of a manner as possible. Chad is right about Mean Gene--"...of such hits as 'I Miss My Homies'..." was an LOLworthy moment in a veritable sea of LOLworthy WCW moments these past couple of weeks.
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Feelgood segments in wrestling. Whatever happened to them?
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Those sort of look like Guy Fawkes masks but I'll chalk that up to coincidence.
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Savage looks so horrible here, it's sad and almost disturbing to watch. The ladies have to do the heavy lifting because he has absolutely nothing left to offer. Fittingly the best spot in the match is Miss Madness hitting Nash with a missile dropkick. Nash has to beat up the women after the match because Savage only has so many bumps in him, then we get Sid. Honestly, he's not a horrible get for WCW at this point but I remember absolutely hating the gimmick of beating up cruiserweights and educating the crowd that the mid-card (a longtime point of difference from the WWF) doesn't matter anymore. I suppose we'll get to that when we get to it. As it is, I'd rather listen to Sid cut a promo than Savage, so this feud is actually starting to look up.
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Bryan Alvarez went on a huge rant today on F4W on how the WWE books its babyfaces to be complete bumbling idiots. That's a problem that goes back to late '90s WCW, because good Lord was Malenko a dumbass here. I'm okay with the Triad but this is just another excuse to emasculate the Vanilla Midgets some more. Not only are they not as good as the Old Guard, but they're stupid, too.
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Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh my God. That's--that's...HAHAHAHAHAHA. Six days after the funniest angle of the year, WCW tops themselves. Tony gamely attempting to put this over as the most heinous act he's ever seen just adds to it. The shot of Doug Dillenger and his track meet security team...I'm literally almost falling out of my chair here. I've heard of both of these angles but never seen them. They're more hilarious than I ever could have imagined. On a less happy note, this is now the birth of Rick Steiner being possibly my least favorite worker of all-time, certainly the worst of this time.
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Between the Sheets #101 (June 21-27, 1995) (Featuring Emil Jay)
PeteF3 replied to KrisZ's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Kudos to Emil for a gallant effort in defending a universally panned show, but I don't see the comparisons of Mabel to the ECW talent named holding up at all (though Emil's point about fans accepting this if it took place in the Arena with Joey Styles putting it over is a fair one, even if I think he exaggerates a bit). Chad Austin, Donn E. Allen, the weirdo Dudleys, Big Val...all jobbers or comedy figures. 911 wasn't, but as Bix said, he didn't really wrestle--he was essentially a team mascot. Mabel was being pushed as a nominative main eventer. I'm as down on ECW and its trained seal fans as just about anyone, but in the end my response to Emil's point is..."Well, that's how wrestling works." It's not really about "giving the fans what they want to see," it's about making fans want to see what you're giving them. At this point in the '90s Heyman was more successful in that regard than the objective failure that King of the Ring was. I think if Nelson Frazier had come along in 1983, he'd have been a sensation--a near Andre-sized guy who could actually move and sell. But until he went over Adam Bomb in the qualifier the previous month, he was a tag guy. Or, when Mo was out in '94, a mid-card singles guy putting over the likes of King Kong Bundy and Jeff Jarrett. Throw in his attire and his name, which I maintain is possibly the worst in the history of wrestling when you factor in what they wanted him to be, and this push was death from the start. I'm with Bix on the booking of Sid--the idea of booking Sid as a Honky Tonk Man-type coward was dumb on its surface. -
The video package gives us a few fill-ins on stuff we missed, like how Benoit & Malenko split from the Horsemen. The confrontation with Arn, naturally, seems to be the best part of this. Piper reads a top-10 list of why Flair shouldn't run WCW, which was a quasi-infamous bomb of a segment but admittedly the #1 reason is couched in pretty airtight logic. That said, WHO ON EARTH DECIDED TO RUN THIS MATCH A *SECOND* TIME? Is this Nash using Piper and Flair the way Dusty used Paul Jones and Jimmy Valiant, sticking them with each other so they don't dare screw up anyone else? Arn is the best part of the match and post-match as well. The idea of Buff as the leader of the new generation is whatever but there's a ton more wrong with WCW than that. Still, the execution of the Piper turn is pretty shitty since a.) there's a way to do it without having him align with Flair all of a sudden, and b.) the announcers, Tenay's "establishment sticks together" line notwithstanding, obviously aren't clued in and don't know how to get over that Piper turned on Bagwell for costing him the match and Presidency. Heenan even says Piper's "directing traffic" when he's doing no such thing.
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I don't think anyone saw this gimmick getting as big as it did. We get Booker T's catchphrase, months before he had it.
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Test gets friendzoned. This won't last. We see the apparent set-up for a Test-Double J Heat main event.
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Don't know how anyone would have thought this was a good idea. Speaking of bad ideas, who decided on the Price Is Right Cliffhanger yodeling music as the right theme for this ad?
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DON'T TICK ME OFF. This is an improvement over his action figure, whose t-shirt said DON'T MAKE ME MAD.
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I'm not sure why the Dudleys have to suddenly be comedic idiots now.
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You have to admire the Dudleys and Gertner's commitment to being scumbag heels.