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Anyone else had a chance to check this out? I watched it tonight and what an uncomfortable movie to sit through. I never thought of the daily lives of washed-up 80s wrestlers until watching it but I would think this would be an extreme case of being down on your luck. I may be completely off the mark and this may be pretty typical. Anyone else care to comment?

Since I had seen these matches before, I only had to re-watch a couple of them for final placement so I have sent in my final list. What really stands out to me is that there are only about 15 matches total where I thought to myself "these don't belong". Really great set to put together and to watch. Here are my Top 25... 1. Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee (Loser Leaves Town) (6/6/83) [EWY-6] 2. Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee (No DQ, Loser Leaves Town) (12/30/85) [EYETIGER-10] 3. Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert vs. Pretty Young Things (Falls Count Anywhere) (5/18/84) [THRILL-7] 4. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (Barbed Wire Match) (3/29/82) [bLUESKIES-8] 5. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (No DQ) (3/22/82) [bLUESKIES-6] 6. Jerry Lawler & Dutch Mantel vs. Bill Dundee & Buddy Landel (3/10/86) [EYETIGER-11] 7. Jerry Lawler vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (Texas Death) (9/7/86) [MEMPTENN-1] 8. Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee (No DQ, Loser Leaves Town) (7/14/86) [EYETIGER-13] 9. Jerry Lawler vs. Austin Idol (Hair vs. Hair, Steel Cage Match) (4/27/87) [MEMPTENN-4] 10. Fabulous Ones vs. Moondogs (6/13/83) [EWY-7] 11. Bobby Eaton & Sweet Brown Sugar vs. Dutch Mantell & King Cobra (7/19/82) [bLUESKIES-10] 12. Jerry Lawler & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Austin Idol & Tommy Rich (Double Jeopardy) (3/16/87) [MEMPTENN-2] 13. Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk (No DQ) (3/23/81) [bADNEWS-9] 14. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (5/29/88) [TROUB-1] 15. Bill Dundee vs. Wayne Farris & Tojo Yamamoto (3/7/81) [bADNEWS-6] 16. Ronnie Garvin vs. Randy Savage (Cage Match) (ICW 1982/83) [WINNING-11] 17. Jerry Lawler vs. Ric Flair (8/14/82) [bLUESKIES-12] 18. Jerry Lawler vs. Curt Hennig (Title vs. Retirement) (5/9/88) [MEMPTENN-9] 19. Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage vs. King Kong Bundy & Rick Rude (9/10/84) [THRILL-15] 20. Pretty Young Things vs. The Daydreamers (Texas Tornado) (3/25/85) [WARMACH-8] 21. Koko Ware vs. Ric Flair (11/18/85) [EYETIGER-9] 22. Bill Dundee vs. Sweet Brown Sugar (2/3 falls, Scaffold Match) (6/21/82) [bLUESKIES-9] 23. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (Loser Leaves Town) (3/27/82) [bLUESKIES-7] 24. Fabulous Ones vs. The Moondogs (Stretcher Match) (5/2/83) [EWY-4] 25. Austin Idol vs. Stan Hansen (Texas Bullrope Match) (10/3/83) [EWY-11] And my bottom 5... 121. Bill Dundee vs. Terry Taylor (4/4/83) [EWY-2] 122. Eddie Marlin vs. Tommy Gilbert (Cowboy Boot Match) (4/4/88) [MEMPTENN-8] 123. Jerry Lawler, Dusty Rhodes & Magnum T.A. vs. Ole Anderson, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (11/18/85) [EYETIGER-8] 124. Tommy Rich vs. Masao Ito (7/9/84) [THRILL-12] 125. Buddy Landel vs. Freddy (8/12/89) [TROUB-11]

Would you be kind enough give a track list of the songs you used for the menus? Thanks 1- Bad News (sung by Jerry Lawler) 2- Blue Skies 3- Winning (by Santana) 4- Everybody Wants You 5- Thriller 6- War Machine 7- Eye of the Tiger 8- Memphis Tennessee (sung by Jerry Lawler) 9- Trouble (sung by Jerry Lawler)

I might have made a mistake and not adjusted the time of the song. If I forget to adjust the song time, it loops every 15 seconds.

The song is Bad News sung by Jerry Lawler. It is actually a 70s song and no, it was not written for Tommy Rich.

If you go to DVDVR, this topic has already come up in one of the matches. Some people go bell to bell. Some people consider the entire thing. Some people question if some of the matches should have been included at all. That is actually the cool thing about the project, you can decide for yourself and let your opinion be known.

I am with Phil here. Everyone who watched that match in the nominating process raved about it, including myself.

That Morton-King ranking is killing me but to each his own. My Top 3 for disc one... Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk (No DQ) (3/23/81) Bill Dundee vs. Wayne Farris & Tojo Yamamoto (3/7/81) Ricky Morton vs. Sonny King (4/26/80)

Loss and I had this talk last night. With WWF, he was pretty confident that Sarge-Sheik would be #1. With Mid South, I knew in my gut that the Stips cage would be #1. This set has no clear cut #1. You would think that the Loser LEave Town matches would take the top spot but they may be hurt by clips and splitting the vote. There are just so many good matches and nothing that stands clear above the pack.

Obviously directed at me but I would rather be a joyless sack of shit than pretend to like a match that is too clever for its own good and should be an extra in support of the much more superior Freddy music video.

It was a bitch to put together, I can tell you that.

Condrey/Eaton has always been my favorite version. In fact, when I got on the net, I was surprised by how many people thought the Lane/Eaton version was the ideal version. I stopped watching NWA wrestling around the time Lane/Eaton came through so the Condrey/Eaton version always held a special place in my heart. I have considered doing a mega-MX set but have too much on my plate at the moment.

If there is one thing we should have learned by now, the wrestling world is littered with hypocrites.

Brody singles matches I have nominated for the All Japan Project... Bruiser Brody vs. Abdullah the Butcher (4/10/81) - THis is almost an exact duplicate of the last match with very little wrestling and mostly arena brawling. However, where the last match had Steamboat chasing Sheik around the arena, this match has Abdullah and Brody with eaach other's hands around their throats the entire time they brawl. I am going to nominate this one with reservations. I want to see if there are any other Brody-Abby matches that are representative if what these two were doing and why they got their reputations. However, if a better one comes along, we can drop this one. Bruiser Brody vs. Dory Funk Jr. (10/9/81) - This is the type of brawl that people should point to when they stick up for Brody. The only problem is that this was fun almost entirely due to dory Funk's willingness to play human punching bag. He bleeds, bumps and shows as much emotion as Dory Funk is capable of. Brody sells a little when Dory is ramming him into the ringposts but that is mainly an excuse to let him bleed. Pretty sweet post-match brawl as well with Brody and Dory taking out all of the natives who try to break up the fight. Buck Robley even joins in the fray. Bruiser Brody vs. Dory Funk Jr. (4/21/82) - After about ten minutes of ok work, this really picks up when they brawl out in the crowd and Dory gets busted open. The crowd was really hot and Brody gave more to Dory than I have seen him give to anyone not named Baba. Both guys end up covered in blood and it even had a clean ending as Dory goes for a backdrop suplex but Brody pushes off the top rope and rolls through and pins Dory. This might be my favorite singles Brody match so far. Terry Funk vs. Bruiser Brody (12/7/82) - The story here has Funk nursing his ear that Brody kicked early in the match so Brody keeps attacking the ear, enough to make it bleed. He rams Terry’s head into the ringpost. When Terry tries to get in the ring, he kicks the ear. He drops knee drops on the head. This is actually a pretty smart match. Even though this is a Brody match, Terry’s selling is great. There is also an awesome Brody piledriver that looked brutal, especially after Terry had tried so hard to prevent it. Eventually, Terry gets a break after a low-blow sends Brody outside. On the outside, Funk busts Brody open after ramming him in the ringpost and slamming a table on him. Now, both guys are flowing and I mark out for the visual. This was pretty damn fun until Hansen interfered, which also brought out Dory for a post-match brawl. I have no problem nominating this match. It had blood, great brawling, focus on a body part and Brody even sold a little. Bruiser Brody vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (Japan) (5/26/83) - Surprisingly, Brody is giving Jumbo a lot more than I expected early on by bumping for him and giving him a fair share of offense without completely shrugging him off. This gets a little too chinlock-happy at times but I enjoyed this much more than the Flair hour match and the Bock match from Episode 91. In the end, this even turns into one of those wild, Brody brawls with both guys busted open for good measure. Good, solid nomination.

The problem is he lied and contradicted himself so much in interviews after he left WWE, we don't know what is truth in Kurt Angle speak.

Loss and I always end up talking about Luger in our discussions in one way or another. I know we have made the assertion that Luger at his peak is better than Sting at his peak. To defend him, I think someone brought in with as much fanfare as Luger could never possibly meet expectations.

You could make the same argument that the 80s didn't begin until Vince Jr. took over the WWF or that the territory system died. In fact, wouldn't it be better to look at it as the change from territory system to rockin' wrestling to whatever instead of by decade?

It can be found on my Jake the Snake set though /shill off Anyway, the match was nominated but found itself on the chopping block due to a strong Brad Armstrong backlash (ie. Phil hates him). I think he (Brad) may do better on the NWA set though with his stints in GA and even a few Crockett matches. Jake's series with Ron Garvin should also do fairly well esp. since we are splitting the NWA up from the first half and the 2nd half.

They're marks. It is the same way that companies like Amway/Quixtar get away with being a Pyramid Scheme. You get enough people to believe in the dream and they will do shit that no reasonable person would ever put up with. EDIT: I want to elaborate. I don't think they are marks the way that we are marks. We are wrestling marks but not target employees.

I agree... the Birds were already toast by the end of the 80s. after watching tons of footage, you could look at Hayes from 1980-86 and say... that is one bad mother. By 1989, you looked at him and he was goofy as fuck. It didn't help that he had goofy ass Jimmy Garvin right next to him.

I always like Waltman. In fact, about a month ago, I made a preliminary list of matches I would put on a Waltman comp.