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Silver Kings (Los Cowboys) vs. Freebirds from Clash of Champions XIX. A really fun match with the Luchadores having the cojones to bring all kinds of cool offense, despite only being there to put over the Freebirds. Pillman/Lyger vs. Benoit/Wellington from the same show as well, featuring the possible US debut of an Asai Moonsault. Savage vs. Roberts from the Feb SNME, mostly for the angle at the end where UT saves Savage and Liz. Plus, the Jake/UT funeral parlor angle. If you want to show how campy WWF was at times, then the Warrior/Papa Shango stuff is right there. Also, at least a couple of the Nailz vignettes and the angle where he attacks Bossman. LOD/Money Inc from Summerslam, as the last hurrah of the Road Warriors for nearly four years. The PTW angle where Perfect agrees to team with Savage and pours a pitcher of water on Heenan's head. Greg Valentine vs. Marcus Alexander Bagwell from Beach Blast. A shining example of the Bill Watts mentality. The Paul Orndorff heel turn in SMW, where he snaps and starts dishing out piledrivers (illegal in SMW) like there's no tomorrow.

I'd also suggest Yamazaki vs JT Southern from UWFI 7/3/91. Yamazaki supposedly (depending on if you believe Southern) got fed up and started shooting on him.

When did it become somewhat normal for the WWF/WWE Champion to lay down in non title and tag matches? Other than Miz and Rey, the only other person I remember doing it quite a bit was HHH, putting over RVD and Booker several times before winning the blowoff. The only other times I can recall the champion jobbing are Nash in a RAW six man from 1995 putting over Bulldog, and Shawn at IYH International Incident putting over Vader.

Definitely the Savage/Roberts snakebite angle from WWF TV, and their Tuesday in TX match and angle afterward.

Don't forget that Hase had a few days as "WCW International World Champion" in March of 1994.

I'm adding this to my list of stuff to try to pick up sooner rather than later, along with Santo's rudo turn and the Satanico/Koshinaka hair match.

Ditch, what's your basis for putting TNA at number 2?

Stuart's post saying that Nakamura over Ignashov brought him to tears is still amongst the funniest things I've read when it came to NJ fanboys going gaga over Nakamura.

I imagine he'll do the same thing he's always done, just follow the DG storylines and angles and act like it's always been that way. It was cool when Shingo was in the middle of the whole CIMA/Doi feud in 2007 and teamed with both of them on back to back ROH shows. But it's just annoying now WARRIORS are babyfaces on one show, but heels on the next called Blood Warriors and we're all supposed to just accept it.

I'm wondering if Pac/Yoshino winning the tag titles is a sign over which stable is going to win the decision match for having Pac in their stable. Or, since the PPV won't be airing for a few months, does this mean that if Pac joins Blood Warriors, he'll be joining W-1 by the time it airs?

According to PW Insider, WWE has signed Mistico.

He'll get a decent sized pop when he comes out. He'll probably eliminate a few undercard guys like Santino, Ryder, DH Smith, etc. and then get dumped himself.

My on-again of-again lucha watching has recently reverted back to "on" so this is awesome timing. Definitely keep it up, if you've got the time for it, Bix.

Obviously nobody here, except OJ could really answer that, but I would think so. Kobashi was two years into the reign at that point. I'm recalling the 9/10/04 title defense where the Budokan fans seemed to be dying for Taue to pull off the win. Plus, Rikio had a decent little push leading to the title match. He'd pinned Kobashi in a tag tournament final in November, and teamed with Misawa to beat the outsider team of Tenryu and Koshinaka in January, scoring the pin over Koshinaka.

What he said.

I'm surprised that more people haven't figured out what DGUSA really is by this point. It's just another Gabe fed with Gabe's boys, along with a handful of DG names to appeal to the DG fanboys. It's really no different than when Vince restarted ECW in 2006, it was WWE through and through, but with the ECW name and some familiar ECW faces to appeal to the orignal ECW fans.

Well, look at the circumstances of Miz winning the title, it wasn't exactly designed to show people that he was a tough guy or a credible champion (although I thought his counter of the RKO to the Skull Crushing Finale was rather nice).

Loss, assuming they did try going in that direction, what would Bryan's counterpoint be to Miz? Because while Miz was saying that Bryan didn't have the personality, Bryan was pointing out that he was a better wrestler than the Miz.

I watched it and enjoyed it, for the most part. I'll agree that Amy Lee was horrible. She said herself (over and over) that she was drunk on Jack Daniels. I think the problem was more with the crowd, than with the pannel. The roast was filmed at a legends convention. So I'm guessing that the bulk of the people there were specifically there for the convention and probably didn't know exactly what they were attending. Mick Foley had the same problem last year when Terry Funk got roasted.

In my teenage mark days, 1997-99, my buddies and I all thought Scott Norton was the toughest guy in the world. We always wondered why he was never in main events or challenging for titles.

I know it had to happen eventually, but I think ending his unbeaten streak was the beginning of the end of him. Whenever anyone on TV talked about Tatanka, the first thing they'd say was how he was undefeated. Once he lost to Borga and Yoko put him on the shelf, it seemed like they didn't know what to do with him. I don't recall any meaningful blowoff to the feud with Borga, Bigelow replaced Borga at the '94 Rumble. Then, he basically treaded water until the whole "Lex Luger sold out" angle started up.

Not because it's great or anything, but I think Team DiBiase vs. Team Dusty from the Surivor Series would need to be included simply for the historical impact.

My first one was Wrestlezone, when I was about fifteen. My best friend in high school turned me on to it. I don't recall that there was too much wrestling talk going on in the forum though. My first real board that I posted on regularly was TSM. TSM led me to DVDVR and SSS because Stuart and Dean would make posts in the puro section. TSM also led me to Spider Twist. Later on, I started posting on Happy Wrestling Land, which is still my all time favorite (although I maintain that this one is the best for pure wrestling discussion). I forget how I discovered NMB, maybe from Goodhelmet, and NMB became PWO.

The unedited angle where Cornette and the Heavenly Bodies show up on WCW TV and confront Bill Watts. I don't have the date available offhand. Bix might, I first saw the unedited version on Cageside Seats.

With the anniversary of his passing coming up, I'd love to hear you guys talk about Dr. Death.