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To be added to the ballot next year are Bob Armstrong, Dave Brown, Jim Crocket Sr, Jimmy Hart, Takashi Matsunaga, Yuji Nagata, Ken Patera, and Stanley Weston. I expect to see a lot of discussion on this board on Armstrong, Patera, and Hart in particular. Rooting for Dave Brown to make it in, and kind of surprised he wasn't on the ballot earlier. It does go to show you the dearth of quality modern candidates to be added to the ballot when all eight nominees to be added next year are well past the 35/10 guidelines that Dave has set, and at least one of the candidates has been on the ballot before and fallen off.
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Didn't you see the episode of Raw where Harry Reid dropped the n-bomb???
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To be fair, you just described like 90% of our elected officials in this country.
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I think the Armstrongs left for a while, and weren't really regulars again for the rest of SMW"s existence. Not sure why, I think Steve got into All Japan and Scott started picking up jobber work in WCW, but they were sorely missed on the undercard as they were essentially replaced by the Moondogs, who were pretty bad. I understand trying the gimmick out to try something new with the Rock 'n' Roll, but it didn't work. I actually liked the Bruise Brothers/Bodies brawls, though. Honestly, I don't think the Bruises were ever better than they were in SMW. Granted, that's not really high praise, but it also helps that they pretty much exclusively worked with good teams like the Bodies and the RnR. And the DWB babyface turn was one of the best things SMW ever did. Loved all the stuff with Ron Wright.
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[1990-01-07-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Randy Savage & Sensational Sherri
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I'll second those saying that the Macho King gimmick was enjoyable, but felt midcard. Still, whether it's midcard or not, this promo rules, and if Savage is going to midcard purgatory for a while, he should at least be the most interesting damned midcard guy there ever was. -
[1990-01-06-NWA-World Championship Wrestling] Interview: Four Horsemen
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I think the Horsemen going heel are kind of telegraphed with Ole Anderson being a babyface. He just does not seem like a good guy, or a guy that would ever hang out with Sting under any circumstances. Maybe if they had gotten Tully instead of Ole for the group, it might have worked, but I'm not buying Ole Anderson as a babyface. -
What a strange setup. Four men in what looks like a radio recording studio, three men in suits and one men in wrestling tights with a long mullet. Did Scott Steiner not own a suit, so they just put him out for this in his trunks? What an odd segment (which I keep saying about these 1990 interviews, but...seriously, they all seem really weird 22 years later).
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Good interview. Ole really seems like an odd fit as a babyface, though.
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To be fair, while the picture wasn't exactly a work of art, it was probably better than it had any right to be coming from the likes of Norman. What an odd segment. And can I comment on how weird it is that WCW had both Norman and Rick Steiner doing mentally challenged gimmicks at roughly the same time? They even both had a thing for Nancy Sullivan.
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[1990-01-06-USWA-Memphis TV] Jerry Lawler and King Cobra
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
Mostly a one man show with Lawler carrying King Cobra through a promo to set up their match this Monday night, but a great one man show. And that's not to discount Dave Brown as the exasperated TV announcer or Eddie Marlin as the promoter, but Lawler does a great job here hyping a match that, on paper, would appear to be dying on the vine without a lot of help.- 20 replies
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[1990-01-06-USWA-Memphis TV] Dustin Rhodes and Gary Young promos
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
Dustin's really green on promos, not just with the Dusty impersonation, but just in general doesn't really seem to know what to say. Gary Young's promo is pretty remarkably sleazy, but awesome. The abortion line seems shocking in 2012, but maybe in a less politically correct era it wasn't? In any event, hard not to root for Gary Young after this one.- 16 replies
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Man, I loved the Brother Love show. How did Bruce Prichard pitch this to Vince? "Vince, it will be great, I'll do a Jimmy Swaggert gimmick, we'll get to make fun of religion AND southerners! It will be great!" But this is pretty great, they let Hart and Heenan carry it, give Sherri and Slick a little bit, and give Fuji two lines that he can't possibly fuck up, and then Heenan gets everybody mad at him to bring it home.
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[1990-01-06-WWF-Superstars] Rick Martel and Brutus Beefcake
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
Typical goofy WWF silliness, but I grew up on such silliness so it holds a special place in my heart. I don't remember watching this at the time, and I remember starting to watch WWF around January of 1990, so this must have been on the show before I started watching, or thereabouts.- 24 replies
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[1990-01-04-AJW] Akira Hokuto & Yumiko Hotta vs Toshiyo Yamada & Etsuko Mita
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I'll admit to not knowing much about Joshi at all (I even had to ask Bix for help identifying folks) but this seemed perfectly fine. Still not my cup of tea, but not bad. The schoolgirl audience was pretty awesome, and it's a shame that based by the comments that it's on the way out, because the heated atmosphere is what I liked most about this match.- 21 replies
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What do people normally say about Bobby Fulton? I enjoyed this, it was a fun little tag match. I first watched this last night while I was really tired and falling asleep, and half-remembered watching Tommy Rogers' somersault to nowhere and thinking, "Did I really just see that?" Good to know that yes, Tommy Rogers really did do some sort of somersault off the top rope for absolutely no reason. Enjoyed Kawada being a dick to the Fantastics and yet begrudgingly giving his respect to them at the end of the match. Fun stuff.
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[1990-WWA] El Hijo del Santo & Blue Demon Jr vs Eddy & Mando Guerrero
Cox replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I have to admit, the Demon turn fell flat for me. I don't buy how anybody can possibly believe that the guy who was attacking him in the Santo mask was anybody other than Mando Guerrero. Besides the fact that Santo always wears long silver tights and Mando is wearing short black trunks, Mando is also shorter and pudgier than Santo. That just doesn't work for me. The rest of the match is a good, heat-filled brawl, but the finish took it down a notch for me. I don't mind some wrestling bullshit, but anything that unbelievable just doesn't pass the smell test for me.- 21 replies
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I'm a pretty extreme lucha novice, not because I have anything against the style but because I've always sought out old US territorial stuff at the expense of a lot of Lucha and Japanese stuff, so everything Lucha and Japan will be a new experience for me. Looking forward to it. Anyway, this was a fun six man tag. To me, Casas comes across as the best guy in the match, having great exchanges with Santo and Hamada (who are right there with him, so it's not a steep drop at all). Fuerza is a fun heel with his hugs and handshakes and general scumbaggery. Panther doesn't come across as strongly as everybody else, not that he's bad, in fact I think he's good, but he doesn't leave an impression like everybody else. Fun watching bemulleted Ultimo Dragon in there already looking like 9/10 of the wrestler he will become, strange awkward segment with Panther aside. He's the least of the guys in this match, but there's so many good wrestlers in this one it's hard to call that a criticism. Overall, I'd say I liked this a good deal, and look forward to more lucha on the yearbook.
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Well, now that was something. Hard not to enjoy some wrestling cheese, and glad to see that wrestling can be cheesy and weird in Europe.
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Which leads to a lot of potential for human error. Back when I produced UWC TV, when I would send the link to Dave for the daily update, there were more than a few days where he would get the link wrong and I'd have to send a correction.
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It's cliche to say this, but Ricky Morton really was his own worst enemy. Bix told the story of the child support. For anybody who subscribes to the WON website, the past few weeks one of the main stories is how Ricky Morton cost himself two jobs, as one of the top babyfaces in Smoky Mountain and one of the top heels in the USWA, because his girlfriend got into a fight with Tracy Smothers' girlfriend and he couldn't figure out a way to reconcile amicably. Talk to any southern indy guy to come along in the last 20 or so years (Jingus?) and I'm sure they have a story of Ricky Morton acting like an asshole. Bobby Eaton kept his job in WCW well into the late 90's not because he was a great worker, as WCW fired plenty of great workers during that time period, but because he was a hell of a nice guy and everybody loved him. Ricky Morton couldn't hold a job after 1995 because he was an asshole. Speaking of Ricky Morton, one of my favorite random pieces of wrestling trivia is that the Rock 'n' Roll Express actually wrestled at a Wrestlemania. They wrestled in the tag team battle royal at Wrestlemania XIV. For some reason, this boggles my mind.
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Well, the good news for the McMahons is that barring a sudden unexpected death, at least they won't have to worry about another failed Senate campaign for another four years.
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I would actually label it as an amazing dual performance, as Edge was able to portray a declining wrestler with a shitty running hug as a finish to part of the wrestling fanbase, while also portraying one of the top wrestlers in the world to the other part of the fanbase. It's one thing to portray a shitty wrestler or a great wrestler, but it's something else all together to portray both simultaneously, and just another example of the great acting ability of Edge.
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I think I'm willing to throw out the five year waiting period and induct the Edge/Kane feud into the Hall of Fame right now. Great acting from all participants, really a credit to everybody involved. Edge really made me believe he had kidnapped Paul Bearer and tortured him, and was not at all ham-fisted in the way he portrayed trying to mentally break Kane. I mean, check out this De Niro-esque intensity.
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I placed my order right away, and I'm really excited for this. 1990 was the first year I started watching wrestling as a kid, but I only watched WWF that year for the most part (I think I caught a couple of episodes of USWA on ESPN, and I watched part of the September Clash on TBS, because I was flipping through the channels and saw Terry Taylor and thought, "Hey, it's the Red Rooster, but with normal hair!") so this will be stuff that is mostly new to me, and the WWF things on there will be stuff I haven't seen in 22 years. I'm going into this with mostly a blank slate and I'm really looking forward to checking this stuff out.
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I intend to vote for Punk vs Vince as Match of the Year, but now I know what I'm voting for Move of the Year too!