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Neither of those work as a comparison to Pitbull, as he's successful and people enjoy his shit.
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Nah, what Austin does generally in those situations is just move on rather than be a dick and argue. It's part of why he's such a great host. That's why he's a great host? Because of letting inaccuracies slide? I've heard his podcast. There's nothing there that would make me suspect he would have any idea whether Flair was in Puerto Rico that night. That's true of 99% of the people who will ever interview Flair. What makes him a great host is him not arguing and moving on so the show has a flow and stays fun. When Flair was saying hardcore wrestling started when Funk pile driver him on the table, and that no one had ever done that before, Austin just moved on. That's a great host. I don't want Austin playing Mike Wallace, I want the fun enjoyable show he does.
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Memphis was successful in large part because Lawler looked great. And WAS great.
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1. Again, he didn't have daddy's money, (for those who still say that.) 2. I included Foley as he was another WCW cast off along with Stunning Steve.
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Shoots Review and Preview thread
Johnny Sorrow replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
Is this the one where Hawk accuses Vince of everything short of being behind the Tate/ Labianca murders and Animal is constantly trying to do damage control and not have every bridge burned? -
Context. The former was a big part of the 80's push to be the main game. The later 90's and the WCW wars were different. Right, and my point is that in two completely different contexts (there's actually 3, breaking the UK market and other European markets in the early 90s is a third context), he came out top both times. The narrative of inheritance plays down what Vince actually did on his own merits (the stuff me and Loss are talking about) and plays up his advantages and the significance of the talent raids. There'll be some who say "it was all Hogan" too. But when the tables were turned and it was the big boys coming after him -- with superior resources and a superior roster* -- he still won. The point is that the tools of success did not come down to Vince Sr's money or talent raids -- they helped sure, but they alone do not account for why Vince was successful in the 80s. And the 90s example demonstrates it. * It's easy to say in hindsight of course that "yeah but with The Rock and Austin he could have taken anyone", but the reality was if you look from the other way he was going up against Flair, Hogan, Savage, Nash and Hall, Bret Hart, and basically any other major star you care to name with Stunning Steve, Rocky Johnson's son, Jean-Paul Lévesque and Ken Shamrock. And Taker and Foley.
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I'm glad they didn't. I fucking hated that. I realize it was Vince being loyal to a long time talent and trying to give him a gimmick to reinvent him to fit in with the promotion at the time, but personally I thought it sucked.
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Again, the "inherit" term kind of implies Vince was given the promotion by his father along with money to boot. But there were all kinds of details about if Vince couldn't make the payments to his dad and his cronies, he would have lost ownership. By all accounts I've read, Vince and Linda had to scramble at times and take great risks to maintain ownership for awhile. People tend to forget that Vince grew up poor and barely knew his dad until he was a teenager. And that deal doesn't sound like some sort of "loving father who bequeathed the business to his son".
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"We wrestled every night and twice on Saturday". Edit: I LOVE Manny's Abby Starrcade match one. It's so insanely ridiculous that it's great. You forgot the part where he says people left in droves after the match.
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Well when you compare Vince to a Nazi.....
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I usually like the Bellas act, but holy fuck was their shrieking during that promo fucking lame. I liked how Cole after the promo said something about AJ being jealous of not getting the attention that the Divas show gals have, but JBL was all, "There's some truth" in the promo. edit: Holy fuck, that Wyatt promo and video was fucking AWESOME.
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Bob Caudle was great.
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Vince didn't inherit the WWF, he bought it from his father.
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Well, NIN, Manson, and TOOL are still entrenched in the midcard, along with Disturbed and Korn. Limp Bizkit have been future endeavoured.
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Seven years ago, but now it's like that legend that pops up once in blue moon. Like Wahoo in the AWA.
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Is Pour Some Sugar On Me still in heavy rotation? Oh yeah it's like the Bruno of songs here. The living legend. I should book a match between it and Cherry Pie. Where would Hot Stuff be booked? As the song the old ass DJ loves but no one will dance to. So it'd be the opener as we get the room ready. The legend who now jobs in a dark opener. Hey, it's Tony Garea!
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Is Pour Some Sugar On Me still in heavy rotation? Oh yeah it's like the Bruno of songs here. The living legend. I should book a match between it and Cherry Pie.
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Pitbull is rather popular here at the strip club. It's better than all the fucking dub step I have to play, at least.
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Nah, what Austin does generally in those situations is just move on rather than be a dick and argue. It's part of why he's such a great host.
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[1997-03-31-WWF-Raw] Owen Hart vs Davey Boy Smith
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
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Where the Big Boys Play #48
Johnny Sorrow replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Jesus Fucking Christ. For the last time, Micheals was "a dick" in the cage match with Somers and Rose because the heels had been asking for it for months. Christ . -
Where the Big Boys Play #48
Johnny Sorrow replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Publications and Podcasts
What's neat is there were a couple of matches I did have some preconceptions on, but those preconceptions were "Ah that's overrated." And I realized I was wrong. Mainly Hennig/ Bock draw and the Rockers/ Buddy and Doug stuff. The debut of the Master Blaster was as great as I remembered. -
I think that one of the reasons Austin's so good is that nearly all wrestlers know they can't bullshit him, and they respect him. And when a guy says something that's kinda bullshit, like Flair saying that hardcore wrestling didn't exist before Funk piledrived him on the table and no one had ever done that before, Austin is great at just moving along the convo rather than get flustered or argue with him.
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Cena's STF looks awesome if you look at the leg being wrenched rather than the face lock .
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