Johnny Sorrow

I just popped it in, and it's pretty great so far. It's like a perfect addendum to the Mid-South set. Edit: Man, the Duggan in the gorilla suit deal is still so fucking amazing. They get all the little details right. They don't just say, "Hey, a guy in a gorilla suit is in the crowd!". Since the show was at a fair, Watts says, "Hey, there's the gorilla from the fair, enjoying the show and reminding the fans to check out the fair after the wrestling."

Well, first of all, Ed Sullivan wasn't a talk show host. He had a variety show that probably had the biggest cultural impact due to all the music acts he broke in on American TV. The Beatles being the biggest example. The night The Beatles debuted on Sullivan, crime rates around the country dropped significantly, as everyone was watching Ed. Carson was the king of late night. Steve Allen was the first host of The Tonight Show, followed by Jack Paar, and then Johnny took over and held court for 30 years. He is considered the big dog that everyone aspires to. Leno has been around forever, had a lot of success, and has a loyal and large fan following...but no one really thinks of him as "iconic". Letterman has always been considered "hipper", even though he's been around forever too. And hasn't really been "hip" in years. I love him, but I don't imagine he plays well outside of America. Tom Snyder floated around for years, and I always loved him. He was kinda awful yet fascinating. His last run in the Mid Nineties was fantastic. Think of Johnny as, say, Oh...Bruno. Or Lou Thesz, maybe. And Jay as Hogan and Dave as Flair. Jay's more popular, but Dave has the "hardcore fans." That old chestnut way of thinking.

Some thread at DVDVR stirred up a memory of seeing Flair, Tully and Baby Doll, Larry Z, and Dick Wohrle on some Philly morning show in the 80's. A bit of looking around, and I found it. I haven't seen this in 27 years, but it's still awesome.

I like that Heyman's "doctor" is a jacked up Vince Russo. And the "THIS IS AWKWARD" chant was fantastic.

It's Punk being a dick. This idea that Miz was a reality show guy who got hired right out of bring on MTV is so not true. The guy was just as much of a life long fan as Punk. Miz learned and trained in the indies, just not in ROH. The guy is a total good dude. He's just a shitty babyface. Punk being whiny cause a guy was being pushed that he didn't like is sour grapes. Boo boo.

You know who cheered Tully, except the Magnum feud , this guy! Tully was awesome, standing up to Dusty. And while a ten year old would hate the Horsemen, a 15/ 16 year old from Jersey going to Philly shows is gonna love the Horsemen. Edit: here's why Dusty sucked as TV champ. Tully and Arn both defended it on WorldWide bi weekly, and Dusty never did. Austin had personality back then, that's why he was better than Zenk.

Shouldn't Dave Brown be a no brainer as an announcer?

SD tonight was fucking awesome, with an amazing crowd. Of all things, Kofi/ Axel was fucking great, and played subtlety into the storylines going on. edit: Christ, even the "Diva Wars" stuff was good.

I love the story about the fan who ran into the ring and tackled Austin after a match with HHH. Austin can't beat the guy up cause he's a face, so HHH belly to back tosses the guy from behind, mounts him, and beats the fuck out of him.

I like the Declaration of Independance one as far as what to send him. Fuck it. Send all of them.

I recommend not watching B. Brian Blair matches before going to bed.

Or it's a good indicator of what to expect. It's like a relationship. If trust is broken, it can be earned back. It's just not easy and takes time. But it's wrestling. An entertainment that constantly changes. Nickel back may do a good song and McDonalds may make a good sandwhich. You never know, and taking pre emptive strikes on anything is again, highly illogical.

And you then may be disappointed. Make your own educated opinions based on the data provided. It's what Tuvok would do and he's a black Vulcan. Double cool.

Not my point. If the stupid finish to that cage match had pissed me off to the point where I said "fuck this shit" that'd be fine. But I'd then have precluded myself from honestly ever commenting on the shit I don't watch anymore.

Track record is a crutch to be a curmudgeon. The idea that you can judge something and then complain about it based on some yahoos report and preconceptions is flawed and highly illogical.

I learned at the young age of 13 to not expect what I want when Muraco won the cage match against Snuka. That's not even close to what I mean. Why not?

I learned at the young age of 13 to not expect what I want when Muraco won the cage match against Snuka.

And truly, those people are a minority who for the most part aren't filling those seats and buying shit.

No promotion has always given the fans completely what they want, but how about the times they have? Negative nellies stink.

Bryan has beaten everyone he's been in a match with except for Big Show. They keep having Shield and Orton attack after matches and tell the story in the ring instead of backstage shit for the most part. And people who normally complain about in ring stuff playing second fiddle to backstage stuff have a problem. This whole deal is fascinating. Put simple, it's Internet Jesus vs Internet Hitler, where Jesus is gonna win...and people still bitch. "How dare you give us what we want !"

And, just an aside, but "Gorilla Monsoon" is the greatest pro wrestling name ever.

For some weird reason, the TNA reviewers tend to be super detailed and less swarmy and self important. But even so, I don't shit on TNA in discussions about TNA because I don't watch it.

Boswell did a great job managing Charlie's Angels.

Sorry, no amount of "what I read/ they fucked up in the past/ etc." is a excuse for shitting on something you didn't watch when it comes to wrestling. Especially the "what I read" shit. Considering that most reviews are either just results or someone trying to be a snarky douche who thinks he's funny...and both groups usually miss the nuances and lots of details, ...yeah, not the same as actually watching.

It's just lazy shit comedy. Like I said, it's a Cracked list minus any actual wit. And if he was trying to make a statement about how all these great wrestlers wouldn't make it with today's standards, then he failed at that too.