Johnny Sorrow

I don't think it's hard to understand. The rules of any match anywhere usually become self explanatory. I just like knowing what the stories are.

So next is the Lawler/ Dundee vs Latham/ Ferris Concession stall fight. So at this time, Lawler had turned babyface, This match rules, but everyone's seen it by now so I'll move on. So Lawler and Dundee are friends, but Dundee wanted a match with Lawler, and the winner would face Bockwinkel for the AWA belt. Dundee comes out dressed like an full on Elvis Impersonator that got shrunk in the dryer to talk to Dave about the match and watch the video of it. Dundee admits that he got took in by Lawler and thought he was his friend. At the end of the match it had become a fight. Both Lawler and Dundee had chains and there's a stand off. Lawler and Dundee decide to toss aside the chains and finish this honorably, but Lawler keeps his as Billy tosses his, Lawler knocks out Dundee and gets the win. Then he does the old "point to my own head" deal to show the crowd that he's smart. Dundee's pissed off back in the studio and Lawler's gonna pay. Lawler does his interview, turns full heel again on Dave and the rednecks in the crowd, trash talks Dundee, goes on about how Bock is a great Champion...but it's Lawler's time. And when he wins the belt, "Ol' Moneybags" Jerry Jarrett is gonna have to cough up some money if he ever wants The World Champion back in Memphis again. They come back to a studio interview where Lance tells us that Lawler/ Bock was a draw. But apparently, Lawler did get a three count on Bock, I guess right as time ran out. Lawler comes out for an interview and says to Lance, "It's great to see you're back." "Well, Thanks, Jerr-" "Yeah, especially after I saw your front." Then Lawler says that the ref of the match, Tommy Marlin, was crooked. And he then reveals that Tommy Marlin is Eddie Marlin's brother. And that Eddie Marlin is Jerry Jarrett's father in law. So it's a family conspiracy to keep the world belt off of Lawler. And the reason why, is that if Lawler was World Champ, he'd have to leave Memphis and then Jarrett's business would collapse because The King isn't there. And people won't come out to see a sawed off runt like Bill Dundee. And Dundee is scared to put up the Southern Title. Dundee does a pre-taped promo from his home where he calls Lawler a jabroni and that Lawler has to earn a title shot. But they are gonna have a non title match this Monday. Back to Lawler and Lance and Lawler's pissed. He calls Dundee a leach who Lawler helped out of the gutter. Next up is the actual introduction of Jimmy Hart. Here's what the case of these DVD's should be.

I'm looking forward to the lucha stuff on the 90 yearbook, as lots of people who's tastes are similar to mine pimp it. Just indulge me if I ask what the backstories are. Same with some of the Japan stuff. And sorry for thinking you might be a troll there, rvd356. I used to mod at a site that always full of trolls and sometimes shit sets off triggers in my thinking. It's like the world's dorkiest Vietnam flashbacks.

Bock also had the whole, calm "I'm smarter than you" deal going on with his villain character. That adds a lot to the psychology of his matches and his promos explaining himself.

I just got the latest load of 70's Memphis discs and popped in Memphis Feud Part 1. The first stuff is some set up for Lawler vs Dundee, then the match. Now, this is when Dundee was a scrappy young babyface and Lawler was a hated heel. This is so fucking awesome. I love the entire Lawler/ Dundee saga, but I've only seen it from when Lawler was a good guy and Dundee had turned bad guy and eventually the first of the legendary Loser Leaves Town matches happened. I've maybe seen a clip or two of this stuff, so this is Holy Grail type shit, right here. Lawler's such a dick here and it's amazing. The first match is Dundee's hair vs Lawler's title, his car, and his manager, Mickey Poole's hair. I've never head of Poole. Was he his manager before Hart? Lawler doesn't mention him in his book. Anyway the match is fucking awesome. Lawler kicks the dogshit out of Dundee, beating him bloody with the chain deal. Billy keeps fighting back, as he has no quit, but Lawler keeps getting the one up on him. Lawler eventually has Dundee in the corner and is just killing him with most amazing looking punches I've ever seen. I mean, just fucking beautiful. I want to take these punches, crush them into a fine powder and snort them so I can feel the awesomeness of them. This leads to the NWA official stopping the match, cause Dundee is in no shape to continue. Dundee begs the official and the ref to let him keep fighting saying "It's MY HAIR! MY HAIR!" and the official "withdraws his intervention", so the match continues! Lawler's all, "What the fuck is this, bullshit? I won!", and then just rips into Dundee beating the fuck out of him some more. Dundee fights back some, and they end up doing the double whammy, both on the mat. Lawler's up first and tries an elbowsmah from the second rope, but misses as Dundee rolls out of the way. Dundee gathers his senses, dives on Lawler and gets the 1-2-3! Plowboy and some faces come out hold Poole as he gets his head shaved. THIS FUCKING RULED. A MILLION STARS. AND THEN!!! Next bit is Lawler in the studio cutting a promo with Lance and Poole's there with a wig on. Lawler's going on about how Dundee had extra emphasis to win because his ugly hag of a wife told him he couldn't come home if he lost. Then outta nowhere, some broad attacks Lawler. Dundee drags her away and Lawler starts shouting, " IT'S HIS OLD LADY! LOOK AT THAT POOLE!" and they're both laughing in disbelief while Lance looks like, "Oh Christ, here we go." Lawler's going on about how Dundee's old lady has to fight for him, asks if the camera caught the ugly hag's face and now he's got an inspiration. He's got a Texas Death match against Dundee this Monday and he's gonna make Dundee quit. And his inspiration is that he's dedicating the match to Dundee's Old Lady, so she can see what kind of a loser the guy she's gonna wake up next to is. This is so god damned great. Christ, I need a cigarette.

I get that, and that's why I'm not totally quick to shout "troll" at someone. But I can see where it looks a little questionable. To be honest, I'm not a big Lucha fan (mainly from lack of watching and the language barrier) and I kinda dig Brody, even though I recognize all the criticisms and agree with them. And I enjoyed broken down HBK, as well. Just not enough to argue about it. Back on topic, my top ten is probably 1. Jerry Lawler 2. Ric Flair 3. Dusty Rhodes 4. Randy Savage 5. Barry Windham 6. Sgt. Slaughter 7. Ricky Morton 8. Steve Austin 9. Terry Funk 10. Eddie Guerrero Oh and honorable mention to Don Leo Jonathan. Not that I've ever actually seen him wrestle, but because every Apter mag list of my youth listed him.

Well, two people doesn't a consensus make. And while it may be a coincidence, a guy coming to this board and immediately dissing lucha and it's older guys and praising HBK's later career stuff does smell a little suspicious.

Just to play Devil's Advocate on this point, I think that most wrestling fans go through a phase where they'll watch anything that's wrestling, even if they think it stinks. When I was at the height of my teenage wrestling fandom, I'd watch everything every week even if it sucked. Specifically California Championship Wrestling during the time it was shown in Jersey in the Mid Eighties. And it doesn't have to be just wrestling. My ex-wife and I watched Beverly Hills 90210 until the very end even though every week we'd say, "This is just awful."

Yeah. That reminds me of the documentary part of his DVD where he says that the whole kicking, crying, and screaming while being carried away by security after being "fired" was his idea. I remember people being all "outraged" that "Vince embarrassed and buried" him, and Jericho just scoffs at that and then says that when he actually is done for good, he wants to do it again, not have some sappy "Goodbye".

Ha, I assumed Colon was already in the WON HOF. When I first started buying the mags in 1984, the Napolitano WRESTLING ALL STARS mags told me that Carlos Colon was a World Champion on the same level as Hogan, Flair, and Martel. So I always have that working in my heart and head. First impressions are huge re: wrestling when you were 14. And since the only time I saw him was the Starrcade 83 match with Abby clipped on the PWI Lords of The Ring tape and I loved it, he always felt like this legend I'll never see much of. I'm geeking at watching some of the matches Dylan's found.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people will spend endless amounts of time bitching about a wrestling product, but because it's wrestling on TV they can't stay away. What they CAN do, however, is decide not buy PPVs. See: TNA. May be funnier than the cartoon: At least it wasn't one of Will's comps that he broke in anger. Wow. I think it's time for a new boyfriend. That shit is pathetic. All I think is, "This guy has a girlfriend and I haven't had a long term relationship in years. I stink."

I was at this Starrcade, but this match was at the Omni and we were at Greensboro. So we watched this on a big screen live. At the time I was a huge Garvin fan, and I didn't consider Bubba to be an actual wrestler. I know that sounds crazy, but work with me here. To me, he was Jim Cornette's bodyguard...not a wrestler. If I had ever seen him as a job guy on TBS I certainly didn't remember it. So to my 16 year old self, I thought Bubba sucked. However, since it was a Louisville Street Fight, and I was born in Louisville, part of me wanted to cheer for Bubba. A few years later, actually, when I was going to U of L, I used to joke with my college pals that I wasn't scared to go to the rough part of town to buy beer and weed because I knew how to Louisville Street fight thanks to a wrestling match that taught me all I needed to know. Watching it again now. Bill Apter's looking fit and trim in his PW T Shirt. I love the soda spot in Bubba's eyes. Since it's Atlanta, I'd guess it burned Bubba's eyes cause it was more moonshine than soda. I love that Bubba used a roll of nickels, where as later Tully would use a roll of quarters. Not only are nickels worth less than quarters, they also don't pack as much punch. Then again, Dusty must have made sure that he got bloodied by a higher currency. Tommy Young seems gayer and gayer every time I rewatch stuff. He's fabulous and still my favorite ref. And I call bullshit on all this "concussions make you a maniac" shit. I mean, if it was true Tommy Young would have massacred a town First Blood style by now considering how many times he's been knocked out. Bubba's super green here, but it's a fun brawl. You can totally see the seeds of how great he'd become. And Garvin's his typical killer self.

Hey, any excuse for me to post this video Naylor made some years back. Ravishing and Raging fucking ruled.

Huh, the place I looked it up must've got it wrong cause it said 12/86 was a WorldWide show. The title change was on TBS Saturday Night.

No he's talking about Ravishin' and Ragin' vs. Rock N Roll Express (WWW 12/86). But that's not the title change.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people will spend endless amounts of time bitching about a wrestling product, but because it's wrestling on TV they can't stay away. What they CAN do, however, is decide not buy PPVs. See: TNA. I think the funniest thing in that cartoon is the t-shirt in the last panel.

This got a laugh out of me.

Oh, trust me. Speaking as someone from Jersey, lots and lots of people continue to be angry that the Giants and Jets play in Jersey and are still billed from NYC. I was goofing around with my post there, and I really don't care. But believe me, there's a ton of resentment in Jersey about the football teams.

I forgot, Punk taking the cover of the Spanish announce table and replacing it with a bow to the announcers was fucking hilarious.

I liked it. What can I tell ya? Here's something I don't like. Mania is in New Jersey, not New York. This whole "NY/NJ" stuff is fucking horseshit. I LOVE NYC, always have. But Mania is in Jersey, period. Fucking typical Jersey disrespect.

Man, you love everything. You are a joy. Well, what wasn't there to like? Show/ Del Rio was good stuff. Del Rio is an outstanding face and Show rules. The tag match was fun, and I love watching those four guys work.The Rumble was a stone fucking blast. The surprise guys were actual surprises, and it was just a great Rumble match. I loved the Godfather deal. I remember joking on a radio show that The Godfather should just have always had his music hit, dance out with the broads, go around the ring, and dance back up the ramp to the back. No shitty match and the fans get what they want. AND THEY DID IT! The Rhodes boys fighting each other and then teaming up to beat up Ziggler to go back to fighting each other was fucking awesome. Great Rumble. I loved Rock/ Punk. Sue me. I especially liked Vince coming out and saying "So the lights went out, do you think we're stupid?" But, MAN, did Rock just look like he dwarfed Punk? And not just muscles. It's weird, Punk never really looked small against Cena or other bigger guys, but he looked like a midget at times compared to Rock. And Rock beat Punk for the god damned belt. I marked. Punk has done such a great job lately of being a hateful, entitled, smarky, douchebag... that I wanted the Rock to kill him.

I fucking loved this show. What a blast. And I loved Rock/ Punk, even if Punk looked like Max Mini with Rock draped on his shoulders. I loved the dejected look the late twenties bearded smart fan had when Cena and Rock won. Ha, fuck that guy.