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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Yep, I loved Brother Love too. So slimmy. I thought Brother Love was great too. His purpose was to be a house organ for the heel elite of the WWF. Ted Dibiase bribed officials to get him his time slot. Bruce Pritchard was only slim during his Belushi level days of doing blow. Hey, like I said. I was in my early twenties at the time and Brother Love was just fucking annoying and stupid to me. Granted, now knowing that he had a timeslot thanks to Dibiase, ok. That part of my hatred of the character is gone. But I go back and watch that era of WWF now, and I can get past a lot of what I hated about it. But not him. It's still just annoying. But that's me. I still think Paul Bearer and Taker from the time is annoying and embarrassingly stupid, and when I read the old Observers that go on about how awesome Pringle is in the role I scratch my head. It's a total age thing on my part, I know. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Ok, well there you go. I never knew that. That was always my problem, "Why does this guy have an interview show?" Interview shows are supposed to be hosted by wrestlers, managers, or ex-wrestlers. And believe me, I "got" that they were spoofing the Televangelist craze. Shit, back then we used to get high and prank call the PTL club and laugh at Benny Hinn. And I still can't stand the character. I was at a point where I hadn't watched wrestling in a few years, since Spring of 88. I would turn on WWF every now and then and there was so much I just fucking hated. Brother Love was like the #1 thing that would make me change the channel. Warrior and Taker, too. Just the overall cartoony/ it's a kid's show vibe turned me off. It wasn't until one Saturday morning I was flipping around and saw Heenan holding the NWA Big Belt on a WWF TV show and heard the name "Ric Flair" that I jumped back in as a regular fan. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
I'm watching Will's Dusty comp and I'm at the WWF stage. Holy fuck, Brother Love was just the worst thing ever. Around this time I was at a point where I only watched wrestling every now and then and it was usually WCW because I hated the Ultimate Warrior and anytime I saw Brother Love I'd have to turn it off. WCW also had Clash shows and Saturday Nights. Brother Love didn't make any sense on top of being fucking annoying. Why would the WWF have a fake evangelist do an interview show? Why does he paint his face red? What's the fucking point with this character? God, I almost fast forwarded the fucking dvd. -
When exactly was Edge's big drawing period according to Meltzer, btw? Cause I remember him headlining house shows against Taker around 2008, (I was at one) and the draw there seemed to be a mixture of Taker and the name "WWE". Honestly, based solely on the house shows I've been to around here over the last 6 years the only two names that were definitely draws based on the fans I saw around me were Cena and Rey.
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I do remember that time when they were all in the ring as a "normal family" and Dustin was trying to get her to say "Goldust" and the poor kid was just crying and scared.
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Shit, you remember all that off the top of your head? All I remember from that whole deal was thinking "Cool, Goldust is back to teach this guy a lesson."
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
So it hit me last night that Dean Ambrose really looks like Ted DiBiase pre beard and feathered hair. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Point being, someone in WWE creative associates being a janitor with being homeless, and that's wacky and out of touch. It's not like they're saying, "She was homeless, lived in a car, but got a job as a janitor and worked hard to get to where she is". It's "She had it so hard being homeless and being a janitor!" Maybe it's cause I associate the job with, as mentioned above, the school janitors who always seemed to have a job for life and made a decent living, my pal growing up who's Dad was a janitor at Lipton Tea and they were in no way poor. There ya go. -
Ah, the Big Show/ Bossman stuff was hilarious.
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Podcast material, but I'm gonna steal the "Maybe with some guys it's just how they "feel" in terms of presentation. That's another aspect that can be explored in the thread I suppose, though I don't know where to go with that." gimmick for mine. "That is another aspect that can be explored in the thread I suppose, though I do not know where to go with that."
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Here's lower mid carder Brad Armstrong defending The North American Title against technical wrestling great Ted DiBiase. And a rematch that just kicks fucking ass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBmsYhWHISI
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
People who've never done it assume it's a low-skill minimum wage job only ex-cons can do. Which actually leads to what really baffles me. Ok. Maybe being a plumber in West Texas in the late 50's/ early 60's didn't pull the bank it does now. I can get that, and Dusty's so fucking awesome that it works. But who in WWE Creative, when looking at AJ's real life story to use as her character, thought that her being a janitor was just as sad and rough as her being homeless and living in a car? "AJ has had a tough life! She was homeless, lived in cars and cheap motels, and had to take a job as a JANITOR. A job that pays well and probably has benefits!" If the third part of that was "and had to suck cock under the off ramp" then sure, that's hard times -
So, the Attitude Era dvd "Sgt. Pepper" cover has more content in the infolds. Say what you will, but that's the most thought they've put into a DVD cover art in a long time. I bought it. The documentary is ok. My favorite part is Mark Henry telling the story about how he went to Vince to ask about the "hand" birth, because he didn't get it. And Vince says to him "IT'S A HAND! HAHAHAHA!" and Mark just shrugs his shoulders. The matches on the set are generally a lot of fun. One thing that totally stands out is how freakin' rabid the crowds were. There's a Austin/ Taker vs Mankind/ Kane vs The NAO vs. The Rock and D-Lo Brown match that's both a lot of fun and the crowd is just insane. Oh, and according to the DVD, The Attitude Era was from 1997 through WCW ending.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
I'll mention that to my pal next time I visit him at his 500 grand house in the Rocky Mts. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
So, as I sit here after two days of suffering with norovirus, I'm watching RAW on dvr. They're going on about how AJ was poor growing up, so far as to where she once worked as a janitor to get by. Since when is being a janitor some terrible thing? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure janitors make a decent living. It's like how I'd always laugh when Dusty would go on about being the son of a plumber. My buddy Brian is a plumber and he's a wealthy dude. -
I'm not saying he should be in the HOF, and honestly I don't give a flying rat's ass about Dave Meltzer's Hall Of Fame. (Yes, I'm aware this thread is about that but indulge me ). I'm just saying that Sting was always presented as the face of WCW and therefore the fans who grew up watching WCW will always feel that he is. And to me, that feeling mixed with the promotion of that feeling as being so makes it so. Shit, he was so much of the face of the company at one point, they actually had his fucking face above the entrance ramp. The only time he wasn't was when Hogan came in, and even then Sting was "The Franchise" of WCW. And let's face it, a lot of die hard WCW fans resented and hated Hogan, despite PPV buys and early Nitro ratings. It's why Sting as the ultimate face during the NWO stuff worked. He was THE WCW guy, he felt betrayed, but still came back to carry the flag of WCW. (Granted, I personally wanted the Horsemen to take out the NWO, and eventually they basically did years later, but by then it didn't mean shit.)
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Wrestling in unusual contexts
Johnny Sorrow replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Speaking of Stephen King, in the "The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill" segment of Creepshow, he's watching Bob Backlund wrestle one of the Samoans. -
The numbers and all that stuff are one thing. But from the perspective of the fan, Sting was the face of WCW. It has more to do with emotions than the numbers.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Buck Star on Nick and Artie doing Andre the Giant singing The 12 Days of Christmas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hSgnxCvA -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Hey, check it out! The PWI "Lords Of The Ring" tape is on youtube complete. If you've never seen this, watch it. For a lot of folks, myself included, it was the first time seeing World Class, Memphis, and lots of other awesome shit. And Apter and Solie hosting is just great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrj_sPjjJE...eature=youtu.be -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
If you haven't caught the latest episode of "The Soup" that features a bunch of WWE folks, do it. It's fucking hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ81WEYp8g -
Magnum would have gone on to be a huge star either in NWA/ WCW or WWF. The guy had "it", man. A good looking dude in the tiniest of tiny pants who also came off as the baddest motherfucker alive. He had appeal to the chicks and the dudes in a way not a lot of guys have.
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I loved the match against Taker at Mania. When it started I was all, "Yeah, no way are they gonna have Orton win" and by the end I was freaking out cause I was thinking he WAS gonna win, and I lost myself in the match, going nuts, kayfabe.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Johnny Sorrow replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
So Colt Cabana was on Marc Maron's WTF show http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/epi...4_-_colt_cabana It's really, really good. Maron's been one of my favorite comics since the early 90's, and him explaining how he came to "get" wrestling is some good shit.