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97 - The Destroyer 2006 Ranking: 25 Points: 2276 #1 Votes: 0 #2 Votes: 0 #3 Votes: 0 Top 10 Votes: 0 # of Ballots: 45 Average Vote: 50.42 High Vote: 20 (Yo-Yo's Roomie & Tim Cooke) Low Vote: 90 Discussion Thread "Great masked wrestler with a combination of high quality mat skills and the ability to do comedy without undermining the match." Moonsault Marvin "Lack of footage keeps him from being a top 10 contender from the looks of it. Maybe the smartest wrestler ever based on a very small sampling" Elliott "An all-time great main event wrestler. Meeting him was probably one of the coolest wrestler meetings I've had." Dave Musgrave "Probably the guy I'm ranking highest on the fewest matches. But boy is he awesome in those." djhaigh "To watch a good Dick Beyer match is to experience joy. He oozes wrestling in every regard, and his status in Japan is well-earned." Jon Burr Recommended Matches: The Destroyer vs Toyonobori (JWA, 2/26/1969) The Destroyer vs Giant Baba (JWA, 3/5/1969) The Destroyer vs Mil Mascaras (AJPW, 7/25/1974)

98 - Kerry Von Erich 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (233) Points: 2274 #1 Votes: 0 #2 Votes: 0 #3 Votes: 0 Top 10 Votes: 0 # of Ballots: 69 Average Vote: 68.04 High Vote: 21 (Chris Powell) Low Vote: 99 Discussion Thread "This seems too high now. I don't even like Kerry." djhaigh "There has been lots of talk about great matches and Kerry was absolutely a big match worker. He had the benefit of working with greats like Flair, Jumbo and Lawler but he also worked with guys like Hayes, OMG, Kamala, Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez to positive results. His WWF run absolutely hurts him but he had an amazing run of big matches. This is a list of singles matches that made (not nominated but made) the DVDVR lists so far. I didn't include any tag matches including the amazing run of matches with the Freebirds or the Dynamic Duo. Add in the pride he had in introducing Gorky park and Kerry will be on my list again. " goodhelmet Recommended Matches: Kerry Von Erich vs Terry Gordy (WCCW, 5/7/1984) Kerry Von Erich vs Jumbo Tsuruta (AJPW, 5/22/1984) Kerry Von Erich vs Jerry Lawler (Cage Match, WCCW, 11/25/1988)

good idea

So glad Virus made it. He easily made my list. What a freaking talent, it's a shame he doesn't get more singles matches.

99 - Virus 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (364) Points: 2255 #1 Votes: 0 #2 Votes: 0 #3 Votes: 0 Top 10 Votes: 1 # of Ballots: 44 Average Vote: 49.75 High Vote: 10 (Matt D) Low Vote: 100 Discussuion Thread "This is the first vote I feel like I have to justify. The simple answer is versatility underpinned by footage. It's not necessarily that I'm sure Virus is more talented or greater than lucha candidates beneath him on my list, but he's much more bulletproof than any of them. We have so much footage of him, relatively late into his career, over the last seven years or so and he performs on such a high level in so many different roles (title matches, maestro matches, lightning matches, trios matches, as a focus to a match, as background or a guiding force). When you factor in his early minis work, and wrap your head around the differences and difficulties in performing in that style and then as a full-weight wrestler with such aesthetic success in both, I just couldn't find a reason for him not to be in this spot. " Matt D "His last several years are enough to get him a solid place on the list. The undisputed king of contemporary juniors-style lucha. No one even comes close to working the modern style as well, for me. That said I've seen very little of his work before the latter half of the 2000s. Other than those two incredible 1997 matches he had, the trios and vs. Cicloncito Ramirez. " tim "I want to say he's the best lucha worker of this century, but he's really only been given long singles match opportunities since the business down turn. I think he's been the best guy in Mexico for the past few years at least since we stopped getting so much IWRG stuff. What really needs to happen is an evaluation of the first decade of this century even if it's just a bunch of lightning matches." ohtani's jacket Recommended Matches: Damiancito el Guerrero vs Ciclonicot Ramirez (CMLL, 1/7/1997) Virus vs Guerrero Maya Jr. (CMLL, 6/7/2011) Virus vs Guerrero Maya Jr. (CMLL, 10/6/2013)

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100 - Daisuke Ikeda 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (245) Points: 2251 #1 Votes: 0 #2 Votes: 0 #3 Votes: 0 Top 10 Votes: 0 # of Ballots: 45 Average Vote: 50.98 High Vote: 11 (Microstatistics) Low Vote: 99 Discussion Thread "The guy's longevity is quite incredible. We're not talking about a guy here who has a long career where he is looking really solid till the end. But rather a guy who has really great matches and MOTYCs in almost every year where he makes tape, up until the very end. The guys versatility is underrated. Sure he is a beast and that's his selling point, but especially during the early BattlARTS months where other guys were still adjusting he was clearly leading and holding things together, along with Ishikawa. He has the epic big matches, the blood feud with Ishikawa aswell as very good sub 10 minute matches to pad out his resume." Jetleg Recommended Matches: Daisuke Ikeda vs Yuki Ishikawa (BattlARTS, 8/29/1998) Daisuke Ikeda vs Tamon Honda (NAOH, 1/9/2001) Daisuke Ikeda vs Yuki Ishikawa (Futen, 4/24/2005)

First, that Colon stuff is all just rumours and was mostly spread by Brody friends. Is it true, maybe? However no proof of it. For all we know Brody could had been killed in self defense or in an actual murder. We don't know. For Benoit. It's sad to see how misunderstood mental illness really is. Looking at him and going "MURDERER" is really not the reaction you should have. 5 years ago I would had been on board, however we are learning a lot more about mental illness know or atleast it's becoming something that people talk about. Benoit had mental issues, probably his whole life, he dealt with depression and also dealt with an incredibly damaged brain. Yes he murdered his wife and child and then committed suicide, but it's not like he's some cold blooded killer. The guy was severely diseased. It's really a tragic and sad situation. The reason I have trouble watching him is that his style directly lead to his damaged brain which lead to him doing a horrible crime.

I really can't wait for this!

I can recall your thoughts on the others besides Backlund, why do you dislike him? I don't dislike him.

Agreed. I didn't vote for him. He was at one time one of my all time favorites, and I met him and got a pic and autograph at Axxess at Mania 19 in Seattle. But now...I can't even watch his matches. They are hard to get through. I'm married and have kids, and I can't imagine someone doing that to their spouse or child. I get his brain was probably mush, but still. So sad. And because of it, he's not on my ballot. Mental illness is really misunderstood. Of course you can't understand it, he probably couldn't mist of his life too. His brain was fucked. I didn't vote for him, because it's hard to watch his matches. Not because of the murder, but because what those matches did to his brain to get him into that state. Benoit is a sad figure.

I didn't vote for Undertaker, but I would vote for him before: Dynamite Kid, Tanahashi, Backlund, Mutoh, Harley, and Angle all of whom made the top 100.

you are on fire tonight.

Chad is Dusty a lot better than Taker?

Anytime in 97 till today, when he feels like it.

They are shit, so what? I could list a ton of shit that Flair did around this period too. Parv, I thought we didn't focus on the negatives, just the positives? Taker's case is his big matches, not the fact he could be really shitty if he didn't care.

A blemish on the top 100? If you add the 90's and the Bret and HIAC matches from 97, that's a lot of good stuff. However, if you add in his awesome punches, his aura, the way he carries himself, the way he can make matches feel like a big fight feel, etc... he's a good pick. Heck, I think having Dynamite Kid and Kurt Angle on the list is WAAAY worse.

What do you consider the high end Taker stuff from the 2000's? vs Brock, HIAC would be the best obviously. vs HBK, the first Mania one vs Rey at RR2010 vs Punk at WM vs Brock, HIAC from last year those are the best and that is quite a good resume of best stuff However, there is lots of really good matches underneath that. The Flair WM match, the Jeff Hardy matches, the Cena matches, the Kurt Angle match from No Way Out, and a lot more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

Fucking hell everybody! Yes Taker's career has a LOT of shit. Also it has a LOT of really high end stuff. Some of the best matches of the 2000's all involve Taker. If you can't see why people would vote for him, then you are fooling yourself.

You guys are cutting Taker way short

Looking at Taker at his best, damn he us good. The highs are really high, I see why people voted for him.

And yet you still hate on Dory who throws such a fucking swank one. To be fair my Dory viewing is limited and he was next on my list to watch after WoS and Shoot Stye and Little Tokyo for GWE.

I don't really like chop wrestlers, never have. I make exceptions for Indians like Wahoo. Big Show's is great though, because he does like two and it destroys everyone. Much prefer European uppercuts, punches and kicks.

I ranked Flair, Parv ranked Low Ki. A lot of us tried to be objective and had to hold our noses to make these lists.

WTF? Andre is freaking awesome and totally belongs. How can you make an argument for Triple H over Andre?